No, apparently we can't all agree that using stale data to produce propaganda is a bad idea. Its most likely technically true. Though I still don't understand the supposed purpose of citing data that is no longer applicable to reality.

Not that any of these ratios are really relevant anyway.

Maybe if twitter unbanned Trump he could convince the derps

UK looks peaked?

Was interesting seeing Jordan Peterson's daughter decide she'll most likely get the vaccine (after her current immunity passes) after her experience getting Delta. She's changed her stance pretty dramatically.

Be nice and maybe but it's hard not to notice that the figures plummetted when schools broke up and stopped testing so many youngsters. Take out all the cases and the knock-on cases from families/contacts and maybe that's what we're seeing?

I'll reserve judgement until the ONS figures come out - they do random sampling to come up with robust figures rather than relying on who gets tested.

My 'guess' was that the T-cells/etc were doing much of the heavy lifting anyway. With antibodies preventing some infections and doing some reduction of severity while T-Cells/etc kick prevent those that get worse from serious illness

Under this guess, as antibodies wane, people will be significantly more susceptible to infections and minor syptoms but it should only have a marginal effect on serious cases/deaths.

Considering it is not uncommon for people in this forum to argue regardless of Covid the 'old's' should be dead so younger people can better use the resources they take up, and those positions never get challenged and are more likely to get cheered on, ya.

lol at her talking about her weeks of terrible sickness when Tien says we should laugh at anyone who has worse symptoms than he did as bums, fat and/or lazy.




His evidence is his personal anecdote. If he did not get that sick how could anyone else? Derp, derp, derp.

This would funny if not so terrifying when you understand where the Derps starting line is before this drop.



Large study finds COVID-19 is linked to a substantial drop in intelligence
by Eric W. Dolan July 24, 2021

People who have recovered from COVID-19 tend to score significantly lower on an intelligence test compared to those who have not contracted the virus, according to new research published in The Lancet journal EClinicalMedicine. The findings suggest that the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 can produce substantial reductions in cognitive ability, especially among those with more severe illness...

The study, “Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from COVID-19“...

The more she posts the less clothes she puts on. Good anecdotes for views. Cuepee is a simp. Cuepee is a derper. derp derp derp.

I'm back to working out at the gym 5 days a week right now. You're fat, approaching 60 and out of shape. If you and other Covid long haulers did more than 30 mins of exercise a week you would live happier lives.

Another cuepee derp derp derp.

Everything I wrote there is 100% true.

We can't survive as a species if humans lived to 200 years and after year 70 stopped being productive. Thankfully God put a limit on our lives. Thankfully for humans your limit is shorter than mine.

Seems to be that way. No restrictions and caseloads have been going down 6 days in a row.

Shuffle's anti vaccine stance looking increasingly more wrong. He could pull a Patriots vs Atlanta comeback but it doesn't look good.

This is one of the derpiest things I've ever read.

Since you are actually a living derp you can answer for yourself what we should do about derpers and derpville.

Herp derp, lets get to herd immunity and Let it Rip.


Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.
Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.

I think you are right but the vaccine (in the Israeli case, Pfizer) still offers good protection against serious illness.

However, when more people are infected and this is combined with natural immunity, we are not sure what will happen. Hopefully we can get some sort of herd immunity.

those 1300 infants in brazil should have just hit the gym. stupid weak baby losers they probably dont even deadlift

"DSHS doesn’t track the number of COVID-19 hospitalizations among vaccinated people statewide because hospitals are not required to report that information to the state."

Why aren't hospitals required to report hospitalizations among vaccinated people?

So do the good thing and lock yourself at home for next 5 years because then you will never catch covid and transmit it to anyone else. That was what the discussion was about. Locking everything down so that we prevent as much covid as possible due to long haulers.

Now that vaccines don't stop transmission (although they minimize deaths), the no lockdown, slow burn strategy has been the best strategy to use for western countries.

A lot of the people who doubted the vaccine efforts (and the vaccines) were pushing hard for the let it rip approach here and elsewhere when it would kill off olds and fatties, and now that the vaccine is much more available it seems that many of the vaccinated agree with that concept moving forward. England is doing that. Chunks of the USA are doing that.

In theory we will see what happens with USA vs Canada with their much different vaccination levels and approaches (evil freedom destroying masks are still required in Canada), and moving forward the bulk of the issues will be among the voluntary unvaccinated whether they are 60 years old and at the end of their useful lifespan according to some here or are a 22 year old Gen Z who created a posting account on an online poker forum over 15 years ago. Next couple months will definitely show the outcomes of the different approaches.

No what the discussion was about was you laughing at people that got sicker than you and thinking it was a fraud or they were fat/lazy because they got worse symptoms than you did.

You are the person who says 'oh haha sure Cancer is bad. I had a mild case, required little treatment and got better right away so what a bunch of fat losers who actually get serious cancer'.


You are the type of person who thinks 'if I got a mild case that must be the norm for all unless they are lazy and out of shape'.

You need to keep quiet about labeling anything anyone else says the 'derpiest'.

The Let it Rip crowd here also correlated highly with the 'Trump will get us a Vaccine fast' crowd which just goes to show how incredibly dumb and illogical that group is.

I argued continuously against 'Let it Ripsters' who claimed as if they had foreknowledge that the hospital capacity would never be over run and thus Let it Rip and get to Herd Immunity was the proper course of action.

If you believe that a vaccine will arrive in record time then you should advocate the opposite of Let it Rip. There is zero logic in front loading deaths. Only if you believe there will be no vaccine and only Herd Immunity to deal with this should you advocate Let it Rip.

Thus why Let it Rip makes sense now. The remaining people unvax'd are increasingly likely to never get vax'd and thus only Herd Immunity and its necessary cull of the susceptible will get that group there and allow the economy and society to return to normal.

This forum just has the highest percent of emotive non logical people who simply cannot calculate thru what is a logical path and end up advocating illogical nonsense.

I flew for the first time in almost 2 years last week on a vacation to Naples FL. I have to say, it does show how dumb some of the mask policies are. No one, and I mean no one, was wearing masks anywhere around Naples (highly republican area although I suspect it is the same in most areas of Florida). Restaurants, bars, etc. all full, no masks.

But then, when I get on the flight home, everyone has to wear masks. EXCEPT when eating or drinking. And of course they hand out snacks and drinks, so everyone is eating and drinking probably half the time on the plane.

So I am on a fully-packed plane sitting inches from strangers who are maskless and eating right next to me (I am also maskless and eating). It does make one wonder what the point is. It is arbitrary and pointless to force mask wearing in only one particular situation but ONLY when not eating or taking a sip of your beverage!

Which further illustrates that at this point the let it rip among the unvaxxed is probably the way to go. Get the vaccine, or don't. The rest is theater.

Have you considered that the vaccine might be theater as well?

It's definitely theater that's for sure. It obviously works, but we could be at 95% vaccination and there'd be people in OOT talking about how the others ruined everything.

If 95% were vaccinated then the remaining 5% derps could not create the same level problems, so nah that is not accurate, but if you want to think it is to feel better about your beliefs that's fine. I assume we agree that let it rip at this point is the correct approach now that a vaccine is available. I accept that derps are derps, and I agree that no theater is needed at this point. It is what it is so time to move forward and hope they do not create nastier variants as they get their Delta vaccine.

Are you comparing vaccines with flimsy cloth masks that people wear down under their nose half the time? Hint: One unequivocally works.