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Originally Posted by Cuepee
He then resorts to I was correct then and I am now, and there is no difference in those two positions.
Of course. Lockdowns made sense early and not late. This isn't hard, bro. It's all about R, death rate, unknowns (both bad and good such as the possibility of early eradication), economic/personal impact, time to prepare a response, and the risk of hospitals overwhelming without lockdowns.
Those factors come together into a pretty rational equation that hasn't changed since this began - in fact it hasn't changed in 200 years. That you're too silly to do a multifactorial analysis and it blows your mind that I can go from "lockdowns good in situation X" to "lockdowns bad in situation Y" when X and Y are far apart on those factors, isn't my problem. It's a monument to your own stupidity and nothing else.
I mean, here's what happened
Situation X: New virus, large bounds on its death rate, no known mitigation response/treatments, incredibly rapid spread (R=3.4), peak flu season, possibility for containment/eradication/time to ramp testing, summer coming in a few months = Tooth says this a no brainer lockdown and says that the experts are idiots for not doing it.
Situation Y: Long term virus (6 month), known death rate, known mitigations/treatments, slower spread (R=1.5), summer/autumn, no possibility for eradication, ample testing available, hospitals prepared, 6 months of winter coming which will hit a naive (non-burnt-through) population hard = Tooth says that a lockdown is stupid.
You see these two as pivot, caveat, backpeddle. Everyone sees you as a complete idiot.
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Nothing encapsulates Tooth better than these two posts by him which he argues are not in conflict at all and he is correct in both cases.
There's no conflict between seeing someone as worthless scum and having endless sympathy for them. Someone's worth at doing X isn't related to whether you should feel sorry for them. As an example, I think alcoholics are selfish worthless nasty people while they're alcoholics, yet I've spent months of my life nursing a friend out of alcoholism because of endless sympathy.
Besides, one is a personal level (concern for their suffering), and the other is an economic level (their ability to provide for themselves and others) vs someone who doesn't realize that the poor are little more than parasites, economically, and they're not being treated unfairly - in fact they have a fantastic life compared to their own efforts.
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I honestly think the EV bet is that Tooth has never made a single argument in here that he has not backtracked on and basically called wrong later, without admitting it, though.
No, you're just an absolute loser who thinks in black and white because of poor cognitive abilities and a weird personality.