Can't speak for USA, but it feels like it's over here in Canada.

Yeah shopping and services are a new world of headcount limits and such. People distance more. But now out and about most of the masks are on older people. Probably 1/10 in younger demographics. That said I can't speak to Toronto, which is still covid HQ for Ontario. Probably way more masks there.

Anyway if this thing does still have legs, it's going to catch a lot of people off guard. I'm trying to enjoy as much sun and going out as possible now before what could be a tough winter.

what the hell is the point of 3 max blackjack, 4 max poker etc if people packed in to freemont street casinos and bars is allowed?

The illusion of control and "doing something" rather than doing nothing or locking down, which the country has decided it's sick of. Obviously pointless and the stupidest of the three possibilities.

agreed

Two studies seem to suggest BLOOD TYPE affects risk of respiratory failure in COVID patients.

tl;dr --> type O is safest; type A has higher risk (according to the summary).

I haven't read either study yet but will later; don't yet know how credible this is. Significant if true.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....31.20114991v1

Other is 23&Me, don't have reference

(*** O-positive is the most common blood type in the USA)

At least you know your range equity now.

If you donate blood they might tell you.

The covid world tour is alive and well. Wintering in the southern hemisphere as expected but still maintaining presence in the North, in parts with the highest population and government density.

Call your PCP's office, surely you have bloodwork done on occasion, they can tell you.

https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-calls...010249888.html

Arizona looking problematic, perhaps Nevada/Texas as well.

Three big studies dim hopes that hydroxychloroquine can treat or prevent COVID-19

100% this!

IMHE is going to announce they predict a big second wave spiking by Sep 15th with 169k deaths by Oct 1st.

New deaths or composite?

Do you have graphs for Arizona or Nevada?

Texas story checks out:

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Arizona has had a big spike in new cases and deaths since the stay at home order was lifted 3 weeks ago


from the article:


"More than 1,500 new cases were reported along with 25 new deaths in the past 24 hours, officials said."


experts are stating that the new cases are not simply the result of more testing being done - they point to lax adherence to new protocols

hospitals are making plans for a crisis - they are not saying a coming crisis is a definite thing, but a distinct possibility




https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-stay-n1229436

From covid19-projections.com, which has been a highly accurate model so far

US Projected Total:
181,757 deaths by Sep 1
201,550 deaths by Oct 1, 2020 (Range: 146-285k)

Simply stunning and beyond comprehension really. The only other countries close to the US October projections are Brazil (whose President has dismissed it entirely from the beginning/done nothing, what a piece of ****) and India (who has third world health care in most of the country and 4x the population of the US).

The lack of leadership in these countries, and the absolutely extraordinary lack of personal responsibility from a significant % of its own citizens, means there is no willpower to change a highly changeable outcome. The difference that continued limited face to face interaction and public mask wearing alone can make is ALL THE DIFFERENCE. Gets R below 1 and keeps it there, would likely dramatically reduce that number. We just can't be bothered. It's profoundly disappointing.

They're giant countries. You got to compare to the population size. Deaths/million is all that matters. Even after all these deaths, US and Brazil are doing 80% and 200% better than most of Western Europe, respectively.

Most of Western Europe: 500-600 dead/million
USA: 348
Brazil: 187

Brazil has an easier time of deaths though because of young population (31.4 years average age).

Come on now. USA will overtake at least France by the end of this, and Brazil isn't even peaking yet. I think there's a good chance USA & Brazil overtake Italy, too. Spain's figures are no longer accurate and I don't think they will ovetake Sweden/UK/Belgium.

Counting in Brazil also has to be horrible, they are not testing at all.

Yeah this. Undercounting will be much higher in countries with lower per capita testing, fewer healthcare resources, higher government corruption, and less diligent media scrutiiny.

Protests have to lead to a significant spike, can't see otherwise... combined with reopening and people just being dumb, seems like US is screwed.

I wonder if NY/NJ will have a bad spike, or if it will be lessened there because they had it the worst to begin with. I can tell you that down the Jersey shore it's like coronavirus never happened. No masks, parties at rental houses, beaches packed.

Trump also having his white power rally on Juneteenth, I'm guessing the crowd will have no masks just on principal. Should be a nice breeding ground for the virus.

Even deaths per million isn't completely fair. The US is horribly structured to handle something like this.

Each state has its own power and there are completely open (state) borders. A mobile population makes it very difficult to control. Imagine free movement of people from the UK to France to Spain. It would have resulted in many more deaths.

Yeah the US is a unique beast. The president has little to no power (practically or legally) over what the states and counties do in policing/shutdown/distancing rules, health initiatives, reporting, hospitals. It's basically 50 different countries with their own governments and rules. It's an absolute mess. And the health system is bad too - it's an aging deep state bureaucracy with antiquated hardware and procedure that would take years to fix. The CDC screwing up the tests and rules and data reporting so badly is both a symbol of their incompetence and an outcome of how bad/antiquated/bureaucratically rule following the system is.

People in the US also party way more, are more promiscuous (random Tinder ****s are standard in NY), travel more, spend more time in large groups, do far more face to face business/conferences, etc.

In what cities are random tinder ****s not standard? need to add them to the list of destinations to avoid

USA never ranks close to first in international comparisons of promiscuity.

Legally, yes. Practically, no, not even close. Tell me the last time you saw Governors and the base of a President running completely opposite of the President's leadership. It doesn't happen, they get in line. You're absolutely out of your mind if you think that had Trump championed mask wearing and continued distancing that a huge % more people would be doing that very thing today. He's SCHEDULING RALLIES NEXT WEEK with ZERO safety measures required, so I do not want to hear it that he doesn't have practical power in affecting what the general public and states do.