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Old 05-24-2020, 08:08 PM   #7001
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I think this is the weekend that social distancing got kicked to the curb in the US
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Old 05-24-2020, 08:38 PM   #7002
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The fact they won’t give covid-19 to young healthy paid volunteers due to ethical concerns, risking additional death and pain worldwide bc they cant find enough participants, actually makes me sick.
There's no shortage of willing participants. Someone could do a comic story about the search for a vaccine where they trial the vaccination on so many people in an attempt to find a few who catch a disappearing virus that they end up with the whole population vaccinated, the virus gone and still don't know if it works.

I'll leave aside the ethical issue of giving people the virus. We've done that enough.
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Old 05-25-2020, 04:54 AM   #7003
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Does anyone have any good info on how bad this virus is in Africa & Central/South Africa these days?

Curious because some examples look really bad, for example Brazil data:
363k confirmed cases, but only 735k tests.
Is the test data dated, or are they really testing close to 50% positive in Brazil?

They are currently #2 in number of cases and number... 19 in number of tests.
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Old 05-25-2020, 08:06 AM   #7004
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There's no shortage of willing participants. Someone could do a comic story about the search for a vaccine where they trial the vaccination on so many people in an attempt to find a few who catch a disappearing virus that they end up with the whole population vaccinated, the virus gone and still don't know if it works.

I'll leave aside the ethical issue of giving people the virus. We've done that enough.
It's not just about ethics and law. You are still only simulating when doing it in the lab.
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:46 AM   #7005
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It definitely came out of a lab. The only questions are which one, and was it accidental?
LOL. Just stop with acting like any of us know something like this with certainty.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:50 PM   #7006
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Yeah, you're right. A 90% probability would be more accurate.
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:19 PM   #7007
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BUT BUT BUT TWO MORE WEEKS GUYS LOL

This has just been stated by the public health director of the World Health Organization in an interview with a Spanish radio. This is big news, huge actually. Now let's see the media swipe this under the rug and not even mention it.

https://www.elcomercio.es/sociedad/o....google.com%2F

The only article about this so far is in Spanish because it's just been reported but I made a draft translation with some key points for you all to understand:

The World Health Organization considers it increasingly unlikely that there will be a second wave of the coronavirus. Interviewed by RAC-1 Radio from Catalunha, the WHO's public health director, Maria Neria has said that the models that the organization works with are consistently showing that a second wave is unlikely.

"There are a lot of models that predict many different things, from a very small, consistent increase in cases to a big spike but the latter is getting increasingly discarded" stated Maria Neria, according to news agency Efe, assuring that no matter what happens "we are much better prepared in every single area"

According to the specialist, the virus' transmissibility has decreased in such a way that "it will be very difficult for the virus to survive". It's not possible to understand yet if we've reached the of this first wave but the data gathered so far has shown that a major crisis was avoided during the first weeks. However Maria Neria alerts that "it's no use making predictions because as many countries start easing restrictions, the coming weeks will be fundamental"
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Old 05-25-2020, 09:56 PM   #7008
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Yeah, you're right. A 90% probability would be more accurate.
Seriously, tell us more.

We all want to know exactly what happened.
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:01 PM   #7009
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BUT BUT BUT TWO MORE WEEKS GUYS LOL

This has just been stated by the public health director of the World Health Organization in an interview with a Spanish radio. This is big news, huge actually. Now let's see the media swipe this under the rug and not even mention it.
Banworthy, total utter bullshit.
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:14 AM   #7010
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Re: Coronavirus

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BUT BUT BUT TWO MORE WEEKS GUYS LOL

This has just been stated by the public health director of the World Health Organization in an interview with a Spanish radio. This is big news, huge actually. Now let's see the media swipe this under the rug and not even mention it.

https://www.elcomercio.es/sociedad/o....google.com%2F

The only article about this so far is in Spanish because it's just been reported but I made a draft translation with some key points for you all to understand:

The World Health Organization considers it increasingly unlikely that there will be a second wave of the coronavirus. Interviewed by RAC-1 Radio from Catalunha, the WHO's public health director, Maria Neria has said that the models that the organization works with are consistently showing that a second wave is unlikely.

"There are a lot of models that predict many different things, from a very small, consistent increase in cases to a big spike but the latter is getting increasingly discarded" stated Maria Neria, according to news agency Efe, assuring that no matter what happens "we are much better prepared in every single area"

According to the specialist, the virus' transmissibility has decreased in such a way that "it will be very difficult for the virus to survive". It's not possible to understand yet if we've reached the of this first wave but the data gathered so far has shown that a major crisis was avoided during the first weeks. However Maria Neria alerts that "it's no use making predictions because as many countries start easing restrictions, the coming weeks will be fundamental"
Meanwhile in the real world.

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Global report: 'disaster' looms for millions of children as WHO warns of second peak
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the WHO emergencies head, Dr Mike Ryan, spoke of a potential second wave of infections at any time, especially if measures to halt the first wave were lifted too soon.

He said: “We cannot make assumptions that just because the disease is on the way down now it is going to keep going down and we are get a number of months to get ready for a second wave. We may get a second peak in this wave.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...of-second-peak
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:24 AM   #7011
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Meanwhile in the real world.
While I agree with you, absolute joke quoting the WHO as if they have any credibility left whatsoever.
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Old 05-26-2020, 07:26 AM   #7012
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While I agree with you, absolute joke quoting the WHO as if they have any credibility left whatsoever.
How else am I meant to debunk a claim about what the WHO have stated?

Try following the thread.
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:03 AM   #7013
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If we don't get a 2nd wave Sweden will end up with an official death rate around UK/Italy/Spain level btw.

Ofc it's all about excess death, still think it's interesting to highlight. Norway, Finland & Denmark official death rate will be 5X-10X smaller.
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Old 05-26-2020, 11:53 AM   #7014
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This virus will just burn itself out. Maybe in 4 months from now. I doubt there will be a second wave. It will burn itself out before a reliable vaccine is found.
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:06 PM   #7015
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This virus will just burn itself out. Maybe in 4 months from now. I doubt there will be a second wave. It will burn itself out before a reliable vaccine is found.
Is that you or your avatar talking?
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:07 PM   #7016
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This virus will just burn itself out. Maybe in 4 months from now. I doubt there will be a second wave. It will burn itself out before a reliable vaccine is found.
Not before we start injecting bleach.
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Old 05-26-2020, 01:27 PM   #7017
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I think this is the weekend that social distancing got kicked to the curb in the US
After seeing the footage of selfish morons partying it up across America, packed in like sardines, I'm thinking much of the rest of the country is probably where NYC was in mid-March. People do not understand the concepts of incubation period or exponential growth. This will be a s***show across America within about 45 days.

Whoever made that +200k dead wager will be collecting by Sep 1. Probably over 500k by the new year. Americans are just too selfish, too fat, too stupid.
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Old 05-26-2020, 01:40 PM   #7018
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People do not understand the concepts of incubation period or exponential growth.
You probably don't understand exponential growth. Exponential growth never stays. Like other viruses before. It dies out. Quarantine does help stopping the spread but also leads to many issues elsewhere, such as people who will need urgent hospital treatment and wont get it, or the trashing of the economy. This virus will be gone in a few months
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Old 05-26-2020, 02:35 PM   #7019
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You probably don't understand exponential growth. Exponential growth never stays. Like other viruses before. It dies out. Quarantine does help stopping the spread but also leads to many issues elsewhere, such as people who will need urgent hospital treatment and wont get it, or the trashing of the economy. This virus will be gone in a few months
Lol a few months. Based on what evidence?
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Old 05-26-2020, 02:55 PM   #7020
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After seeing the footage of selfish morons partying it up across America, packed in like sardines, I'm thinking much of the rest of the country is probably where NYC was in mid-March. People do not understand the concepts of incubation period or exponential growth. This will be a s***show across America within about 45 days.

Whoever made that +200k dead wager will be collecting by Sep 1. Probably over 500k by the new year. Americans are just too selfish, too fat, too stupid.
Yep. Exactly why the pandemic was always going to be a **** show in America whoever was in charge. Kind of inevitable really.
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Old 05-26-2020, 02:56 PM   #7021
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It will happen as long as social distancing is mainatined. Some think clinate could play a factor but it is more than likely that it is just the virus itself which will die out. Check out most of the modelling and the timeslines if this virus. Deaths have dropped dramatically here in the UK compared to the peak and the world is heading in the right direction.
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Old 05-26-2020, 02:58 PM   #7022
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Seriously, tell us more.

We all want to know exactly what happened.
Nah. I can't. Don't want to get banned for pushing conspiracy theories.
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:33 PM   #7023
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You probably don't understand exponential growth. Exponential growth never stays. Like other viruses before. It dies out. Quarantine does help stopping the spread but also leads to many issues elsewhere, such as people who will need urgent hospital treatment and wont get it, or the trashing of the economy. This virus will be gone in a few months
i'd normally argue against you but i think it'll be more fun asking you for citations on this and sit back while you are unable to find any
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:48 PM   #7024
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This virus will just burn itself out. Maybe in 4 months from now. I doubt there will be a second wave. It will burn itself out before a reliable vaccine is found.
Let's pack it in boys. Tooth, fantastic work here but let's lock up the thread, not much more to see here, gonna be like magic and just disappear any day now.
I mean how can you refute this?
Stupid experts wasting billions of dollars trying to find a vaccine for something that's not even going to exist pretty soon.
Damn I feel so much better. When can the buffets open again?
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:55 PM   #7025
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I think most of them opened on the 22nd.
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