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Old 05-22-2020, 09:32 PM   #6976
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These were automated transactions that were set in place prior to the results being known. Timing just seems like a coincidence.
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:38 PM   #6977
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...6df_story.html

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More evidence emerges on why covid-19 is so much worse than the flu

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Researchers who examined the lungs of patients killed by covid-19 found evidence that it attacks the lining of blood vessels there, a critical difference from the lungs of people who died of the flu, according to a report published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Critical parts of the lungs of patients infected with the novel coronavirus also suffered many microscopic blood clots and appeared to respond to the attack by growing tiny new blood vessels, the researchers reported.
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Doctors have described widespread damage to blood vessels and the presence of blood clots that would not be expected in a respiratory disease.
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They did not look at blood vessels in organs such as the kidneys and heart, where other researchers have described finding attacks from the virus and unexpected blood clots.
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:46 AM   #6978
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These were automated transactions that were set in place prior to the results being known. Timing just seems like a coincidence.
Sale was scheduled, news wasn't
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Old 05-23-2020, 03:37 PM   #6979
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According to a new Yahoo News/YouGov poll, 44 percent of Republicans believe that Bill Gates is plotting to use a mass COVID-19 vaccination campaign as a pretext to implant microchips in billions of people and monitor their movements — a widely debunked conspiracy theory with no basis in fact.
https://news.yahoo.com/new-yahoo-new...152843610.html
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:17 PM   #6980
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So how are those proclaiming >1% IFR reconciling the CDC "best estimate" of 0.4% in US? LOL CDC, Trump involvement, bad assumptions, bad data? I saw some of the data was limited to 3/1 - 3/31.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:30 PM   #6981
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In contrast, just 19 percent of Democrats believe the same spurious narrative about the Microsoft founder and public-health philanthropist. A majority (51%? curious no actual number indicated here, but I digress) of Democrats recognize that itís not true. (well, actually, there is no evidence to prove it is true)
The Dems are so much smarter obviously.
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That tendency is more widespread on the right, although liberals also believe some false narratives (including that COVID-19 deaths have already surged in states that were quick to reopen).
Ok, maybe not.

And, where did these rumors start?
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The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation did fund a pilot study conducted by MIT and Rice University researchers into a potential vaccine-delivery device that could impart an invisible mark detectable by a smartphone. This study was theoretical, the technology described was passive, and the device was incapable of any sort of tracking or monitoring.
And of course no one would ever track smartphones.
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:04 PM   #6982
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The virus disables interferons that mitigate its replication, but unlike any other virus that has ever been studied, it makes no attempt to fight back against chemokines, practically begging for a cytokine storm to kill its host.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/21/...n-unique-ways/

No government or the CCP-backed WHO will ever admit it, but I think this is further proof that the virus is a biological weapon and was produced in a lab.
Great read. Connects the dots on Covid-19 in a way that you would never see from an MSM source. It also explains why the elderly have orders of magnitude higher IFR.

If one could prove this is the only known virus to behave this way then it's basically a slam dunk. Even with the evidence presented it casts a strong circumstantial case, along with other circumstantial evidence presented. Of course China would never knowingly release data to prove their intentions.
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:39 PM   #6983
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It definitely came out of a lab. The only questions are which one, and was it accidental?
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:14 AM   #6984
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It definitely came out of a lab. The only questions are which one, and was it accidental?
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Old 05-24-2020, 01:09 AM   #6985
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"US Deaths Near 100,000, An Incalculable Loss"
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Old 05-24-2020, 08:39 AM   #6986
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Great read. Connects the dots on Covid-19 in a way that you would never see from an MSM source. It also explains why the elderly have orders of magnitude higher IFR.

If one could prove this is the only known virus to behave this way then it's basically a slam dunk. Even with the evidence presented it casts a strong circumstantial case, along with other circumstantial evidence presented. Of course China would never knowingly release data to prove their intentions.
Elderly have orders of magnitude higher death rates from getting punched in the face. Connect the dots.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:13 AM   #6987
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I love Yahoo.

The Dems are so much smarter obviously.

Ok, maybe not.
Ignorance and stupidity on both sides, just much more on one of them

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And, where did these rumors start?
And of course no one would ever track smartphones.
classic victim blaming
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:19 AM   #6988
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Elderly have orders of magnitude higher death rates from getting punched in the face. Connect the dots.
Elderly have orders of magnitude higher death rates from living another day. We need to get to the bottom of this time and aging conspiracy.

Connect the dots.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:34 AM   #6989
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Old 05-24-2020, 10:43 AM   #6990
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Great read. Connects the dots on Covid-19 in a way that you would never see from an MSM source. It also explains why the elderly have orders of magnitude higher IFR.

If one could prove this is the only known virus to behave this way then it's basically a slam dunk. Even with the evidence presented it casts a strong circumstantial case, along with other circumstantial evidence presented. Of course China would never knowingly release data to prove their intentions.
I think it's very high probability to have come from the Wuhan lab, accidentally. I think it's very low probability it was a bioweapon and I don't think the novel cytokine storm stuff adds any evidence of it, the claims of it being novel seem bogus and even if so I don't think it add much evidence.
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Old 05-24-2020, 10:59 AM   #6991
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These were automated transactions that were set in place prior to the results being known. Timing just seems like a coincidence.
Couldn't they have timed the news for this though?
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:26 AM   #6992
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Couldn't they have timed the news for this though?
Quite possibly but idk. I just wanted to point out that the headline was a little misleading. It's not like they went out and sold after they saw the stock go up. And I'm pretty sure they realize how the optics look here.

It's pretty common place for officers of a company to have regularly scheduled transactions like this. Like the CEO of NFLX sells off around $23 million in NFLX every month.
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:47 AM   #6993
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Quite possibly but idk. I just wanted to point out that the headline was a little misleading. It's not like they went out and sold after they saw the stock go up. And I'm pretty sure they realize how the optics look here.

It's pretty common place for officers of a company to have regularly scheduled transactions like this. Like the CEO of NFLX sells off around $23 million in NFLX every month.
It's called a 10b5-1 plan and is very common. An executive places stock into a trust and outlines a sell plan well in advance. It allos them to sell on a regular basis with immunity from insider trading accusations.
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Old 05-24-2020, 02:59 PM   #6994
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...r-cent-chance/

Oxford University Covid-19 vaccine trial has only 50 per cent chance of success
Exclusive: Project leader Prof Hill warns against 'over-promising', as vaccine success is far from guaranteed
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Old 05-24-2020, 03:37 PM   #6995
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50% sounds like overpromising but also depends on the timeline
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:18 PM   #6996
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It's a very misleading headline. He is saying that there's a 50% chance the trial wont produce a result either way because the virus is disappearing so fast.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:28 PM   #6997
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It's a very misleading headline. He is saying that there's a 50% chance the trial wont produce a result either way because the virus is disappearing so fast.

Read it in full now. 50% chance that they won't get any result at all because not enough volunteers are naturally infected automatically lowers the chances of the vaccine working even more.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:33 PM   #6998
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Yes in a way. Although part of that is it would have worked but us never knowing that it does.

It's an interesting story just being presented in a misleading way. I haven't quite worked out if the study failing because the virus disappears too fast is a good thing or a bad thing.
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Old 05-24-2020, 07:21 PM   #6999
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Yes in a way. Although part of that is it would have worked but us never knowing that it does.

It's an interesting story just being presented in a misleading way. I haven't quite worked out if the study failing because the virus disappears too fast is a good thing or a bad thing.
They should recruit subjects in the US. Problem solved, as the virus isn't going away any time soon over here.
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Old 05-24-2020, 07:55 PM   #7000
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The fact they wonít give covid-19 to young healthy paid volunteers due to ethical concerns, risking additional death and pain worldwide bc they cant find enough participants, actually makes me sick.
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