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05-08-2020 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zplusz
Nearly all the people who tested positive and got on a regimen of HcL early avoided hospitalization.
Source? I'm genuinely curious, I haven't seen any news articles or studies coming close to a statement like you made.
05-08-2020 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zplusz
HcL is only effective when started early.

So it's pointless to talk about it wrt patients already hospitalized.

Nearly all the people who tested positive and got on a regimen of HcL early avoided hospitalization.
Any my paperweight deters lions. Haven't see one around my house yet!
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Originally Posted by zplusz
Including Cuomo's wife, who also bathed in alkaline salts to increase the effectiveness.
yes, but she was lucky as it was full moon too
05-08-2020 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WotPeed
I can't tell if this post is a level.
It's hilarious, so bravo if it is.
05-08-2020 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Love Sosa
Yeah, personally I would never wear a mask (they look kinda of gay), plus I am in peak physical condition and my immune system is in the top %1 of immune systems (mainly through eating a 100% carnivore diet and working out religiously), it is not possible for me to suffer any significant harm from the virus. I also don't need to go grocery shopping since I'm already stocked, I go out twice a day to workout and get exercise, everything is distanced. I'd say maybe 7-10% of people in my city are wearing them, and about 50% in chinatown.

rika sounds like your friend is from the "it's a hoax, bro" crowd
man im on your side i want this stay at home order to end too, but your argument is really dumb. You dont wear the mask to protect yourself, you wear it to protect others. No matter how strong your immune system is you can still be an asymptomatic carrier and spread the virus to someone else with a weaker immune system.
05-08-2020 , 07:29 PM
https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the...hem-avoid-them

This seems really good about how the virus spreads. Id be interested if anyone can nit pick anything written here.
05-08-2020 , 07:31 PM
only read the beginning but this sounds wierd

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It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable upslope and once the peak is reached, the back slope is also predictable. Assuming we have just crested in deaths at 70k, that would mean that if we stay locked down, we lose another 70,000 people over the next 6 weeks as we come off that peak. That's what's going to happen with a lockdown.
05-08-2020 , 08:49 PM
Why is US testing lagging so badly? That is one area where I figured we would be significantly ahead of where we are at this point.

Should Trump use defense production act?
05-08-2020 , 10:18 PM
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ng-about-covid

Very good article. Too many good points to highlight here but a few;



The famous ‘R’ (R0 at the start), or reproductive rate of the virus, could have been very high in hospitals and care homes, and much lower in the community. It makes no sense to talk of a single number for the whole of society. The simplistic Imperial College model, which spread around the world like a virus, should be buried. It is data, not modelling, that we need now.

If the elderly, obese and frail are not just at greater risk of dying, but also more susceptible and more infectious, then by definition everybody else is less so. Gabriela Gomes and colleagues at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine looked at what would happen if the susceptibility of different segments of the population to the virus is very different, and concluded that in some circumstances effective herd immunity could be achieved with as little as 10 per cent of the population immunised. In the words of the study: ‘Individuals that are frailer, and therefore more susceptible or more exposed, have higher probabilities of being infected, depleting the susceptible subpopulation of those who are at higher risk of infection, and thus intensifying the deceleration in occurrence of new cases.’

A study of 391 cases of Covid-19 and 1,286 of their contacts, in the Shenzhen region of China, found that 80 per cent of cases were transmitted by just 9 per cent of carriers, and that only 11 per cent of those sharing a household with a case caught the virus.

In sharp contrast to the pattern among the elderly, children do not transmit the virus much if at all. A recent review by paediatricians could not find a single case of a child passing the disease on and said the evidence ‘consistently demonstrates reduced infection and infectivity of children in the transmission chain’. One boy who caught it while skiing failed to give it to 170 contacts, but he also had both flu and a cold, which he donated to two siblings. Children appear to have ACE2 receptors, the cellular lock that the coronavirus picks, in their noses but not their lungs.



Had to go to an AFC urgent care today... wife slipped at work and needed stiches. They are offering 15min tests and antibody testing (though they mentioned the issue with this is previous exposure to other coronaviruses). This was great to see but from the posts in here 15min tests are not the norm for most other places.
05-08-2020 , 10:43 PM
A travesty that this economic Armageddon continues for this nonsense...OPEN AMERICA NOW!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/sta...24253434212360

@AlexBerenson
Specific data from a meatpacking plant that tested its 2700 employees: 1200 had #SARSCoV2, 90% asymptomatic, 12 hospitalized (1% of positive cases), zero deaths:
05-09-2020 , 04:09 AM

Two noteworthy points imo were:
-a much lower mortality rate than what was initially thought
-over reporting of Covid cases (his comment is around 1h27min)
05-09-2020 , 04:45 AM
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a much lower mortality rate than what was initially thought
Thought by whom?
Experts were very close from the beginning. Narcissists with fleeting attention to serious problems, like Musk, were and are all over the place as usual.
05-09-2020 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bram90

Two noteworthy points imo were:
-a much lower mortality rate than what was initially thought
-over reporting of Covid cases (his comment is around 1h27min)
What kind of tool are you? If lockdown was good for his business then we would say all the opposite things.
05-09-2020 , 08:59 AM
Fun Twitter thread criticising the UK’s prediction model.

Grab yourself a small bag of popcorn for the sub thread where the academic steps in to defend it:


https://twitter.com/thatkatyagirl/st...018466817?s=21
05-09-2020 , 09:42 AM
I'm been reading more and more how a vaccine won't be effective because COVID will just mutate too quickly and we have no idea which strain will be the most prevalent, basically a guessing game.
05-09-2020 , 11:22 AM
^ Bit disingenuous to say the lab had an emergency shutdown on such weak evidence.

It adds a small amount of weight to the lab theory, but not significantly so.
05-09-2020 , 12:09 PM
You want to believe rona just happened? And chi-commy advanced society clamped down with such efficiency that their numbers are so much better than everywhere else considering population density? You're batty!

They've got some tainted drywall and toothpaste to sell you along with their high quality hotdogs made from real dog.

How are the Chinese Buddhists doing these days?
05-09-2020 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chytry
Any my paperweight deters lions. Haven't see one around my house yet!

yes, but she was lucky as it was full moon too
Hey smart ****ing ass, Idk if you thought I was joking or not. Your trump derangement syndrome must cloud your brain functions. But this was 100% serious

https://thepuristonline.com/2020/04/...otocol-week-3/

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Then, at the direction of my doctor, Dr. Linda Lancaster, who reminded me that this is an oxygen-depleting virus, she prescribed I take a type of homeopathic bath, a water-and-bleach bath, to combat the radiation and pollutants in the system and oxygenate it.
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Originally Posted by Borish Johnson
Source? I'm genuinely curious, I haven't seen any news articles or studies coming close to a statement like you made.
Honestly where do you people get your information from?

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/30/med...xychloroquine/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...06987720306435

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04...-for-covid-19/
05-09-2020 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
I'm been reading more and more how a vaccine won't be effective because COVID will just mutate too quickly and we have no idea which strain will be the most prevalent, basically a guessing game.
links please?
05-09-2020 , 02:04 PM
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Then, at the direction of my doctor, Dr. Linda Lancaster, who reminded me that this is an oxygen-depleting virus, she prescribed I take a type of homeopathic bath, a water-and-bleach bath, to combat the radiation and pollutants in the system and oxygenate it.
These are the sort of experts we need!
05-09-2020 , 02:33 PM
So a common thing I keep hearing from people I know(most of whom have kept their jobs and been working from home) is that they can't believe how much money they have saved while being locked down. No more coffees, lunches, shows, drinks at the bar, ect can really add up.

As things go back to normal is the general population going to curb their overall spending habits? Everyone seems to be realizing how much money they were spending on that stuff and will be contemplating what they can go without if it means several extra 100 in their bank account each month.

Will this change spending habits long-term or is everyone going to go right back to buying 9 dollar drinks at the bar and 5 dollar coffees in the morning?
05-09-2020 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chytry
Thought by whom?
Experts were very close from the beginning. Narcissists with fleeting attention to serious problems, like Musk, were and are all over the place as usual.
59 minutes in Elon stated it was at least an order of magnitude less than what the WHO said it was but I don’t recall him mentioning a specific value.

Due to that I don’t know if he was referring to the 3-4% crude morality ratio WHO reported in March, or if it was something else. I wish I knew because later at 1h2mins he emphasizes the same point again.


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Originally Posted by nutella virus
What kind of tool are you? If lockdown was good for his business then we would say all the opposite things.
If he was saying all the opposite things, I still would have shared the clip thinking Elon’s view when broadcast on a podcast like JRE, could be somewhat influential on public opinion. Even if I was wrong to share it for those reasons, I don’t see why that makes me a tool.
05-09-2020 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RuthSlayer
He was my mentor and I was a student and then coach on the Texas Atlantic Region Math League (ARML) team for three years. I went to college, I was a student aide to him fro two years before he moved. He is a great man that truly cared for his students and everyone.

I'm near the middle of the bus picture in that article.

Edit: Thanks for sharing the article, it brought back a lot of memories. I also received a Hungarian Rubik's Cube from him years before they were available in the US. Have it on a shelf now.

Last edited by lilrascal; 05-09-2020 at 04:01 PM.
05-09-2020 , 04:38 PM
Mask up people. The solution is so simple, but is either ignored or dismissed by the experts.

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If 80% of Americans Wore Masks, COVID-19 Infections Would Plummet, New Study Says
There’s compelling evidence that Japan, Hong Kong, and other East Asian locales are doing it right and we should really, truly mask up—fast.
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It sounds too good to be true. But a compelling new study and computer model provide fresh evidence for a simple solution to help us emerge from this nightmarish lockdown. The formula? Always social distance in public and, most importantly, wear a mask.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...new-study-says

Last edited by joe6pack; 05-09-2020 at 04:59 PM.
05-09-2020 , 04:42 PM
This is how you do it (and its costly)

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South Korea, which is trying to relax physical distancing regulations, on Saturday shut down more than 2,100 clubs and bars in the capital after a new cluster of cases emerged, apparently linked to a single individual who had gone out while infected.
05-09-2020 , 04:54 PM
Has any country actually gotten rid of this thing yet?

Seems like the lockdowns aren't even eradicating it.

      
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