i was wondering.
All those twitter u put here from "obscure tweeter sources" and passing it as gospel.
Are you trusting them with your money too when they tell you about these investments being great ?

If your ready to trust everyone of those with your health, surely u must do it with your money too ?

they are trustworthy right ?

Do you think that vid is fake? Doesn't look fake at all and is completely in line with what they've been saying the entire time.

He thinks that Juan posts really dumb sources/tweets. So hes asking if Juan trusts his "obscure tweeter sources" for financial advice as he seems to use them for his medical opinions/positions.

well for that video not necessarily, but u see the vid as been cut/edited at 15sec.
obv it was probably to insert what this person said but we do not know to what he was answering about .

But my point was referencing to all his post , not just this one...
that post just reminded of my question to ask him.

i wouldnt take full confidence in investing my money with post on twitter from a guy that has 50k followers.
why would he with his health ?

Its edited in a few spots, and the context of the back and forth questions/answered is removed, which changes the dynamics of how it sounds. Again, this is mundane editing to serve an agenda, and it is put up in a Twitter account that is basically 100% alt-right anti-vaxx messaging. You guys keep talking about how the regs do not talk politics here, yet somehow these same regs sources of information are always from the narrow extreme alt-right sources, and then the "the sources do not matter, just watch the video" (which has been edited as mentioned) reasoning is tossed in again and again and again.

Is the video a "fake?" Yes and no. Technically as that person has said those words. Is it accurate in terms of context? Nah. Is it presented in a Twitter account filled with anti-vaxx messaging. Yup. Here is a simple example of a similar process.

Those are all words he said. Guess he hates all the people of Australia.

They know it would fail. This thread allows them all to be passive consumers with minimal effort. Also, none of them would get others to follow them if they tried.

And that is the thing with right wing maga type rhetoric. Very similar dynamic to CT stuff.

It can never survive or thrive in its own echo box chamber as it quickly descends to the lowest case denominator garbage.

The NEED Twitter, FaceBook or even a forum like this, (evil corporate and must be left leaning SM sites) to build an audience for them, but then they want to post their garbage in a safe space within that larger audience.

For them it is never about engagement or discussing their more reprehensible/dumb positions, as they quickly cry for a Safe Space and bans when that happens. They want to post it in a bubble so they can all tell one another they are correct.

I still want someone, anyone from the group excoriating the Mods for not giving them their safe space to address this below.

ToothSayer the guy who started this thread has OAFK, a guy who is happy to go at this with Data and Facts and avoid politics exasperated below as he does not want politics in this but feels he then must reply to Tooths political nonsense.

Tell us SafeSpace cry babies, 'how would you have the Mod's handle the below'?

As we know for fact more of you are likely to REPORT OafK for replying then Tooth for inciting the reply.

Does OAFK have to ignore it or be banned or can he or anyone else reply to that nonsense?

Do you SafeSpace crybabies not think the guy who creates the thread has the most responsibility for the tone of the thread. Meaning if i create a thread and ask for 'no profanity' but start cursing people out in many of my posts after it is then dumb to call out those who reply with profanity to him???


Or its a question to any Mod reading this and trying to consider how to handle this forum as you can take it to the BFI Bank, that if create a dynamic where maga positions only can be spread and replying to them is what gets someone banned then you know Tooth and few others will weaponize and do it far more trying to bait the replies. I am sure we can all agree that we have enough Maga'tarding in this thread and don't need any more.

I don't even know who the tweeter is. They show up in my feed because someone liked, retweeted, or commented. I've explained this before

As you might expect a mob of the dumbest people incapable of learning or embarrassment show up and keep stepping on the same rakes. The health official is stating that in order to maintain status of "vaccinated" and all the "privilege's" that goes along with that status, you must follow their plan of boosters. I haven't seen any controversy in what the health official says and means.

Someone could post that the official wasn't conveying that message and its CGI or deceptive editing. That hasn't happened. They could even argue the merits of the officials sentiment. That hasn't happened either. Instead we get the same clown car of dolts conducting research in to who posted the video to see if they have a secret dungeon in their pizza shop or whatever. Yeah that's a clever way to discredit the speech of a health official.... attack a twitter account sharing the video of a press conference.

Interestingly enough in the study of anti social behavior in youth they noticed a significant difference between males and females. Male aggression is obvious and well understood. Female aggression typically comes in the form of character assassination, gossip, and rumors. In fairness I haven't seen anything published on soyboys or boomers with plummeting T

I believe you when you say you have no idea who the rando low follower tweeter is, but the key is in the second part of your statement where you say it appeared because it is linked to the type of content you want to see, and safe to say you will not see too many far left sources in that mix. You only see what you want to see. Welcome to being monetized.

As to your comment that someone could post how it is deceptive editing - I did just that, but I get why you would see past it for when you see something you want to believe. You are a typical passive consumer of that type of media, so the fact that much of it is presented to you in an altered context to fit a narrative does not concern you, and it appears even when you are told you are oblivious to it as well, perhaps due to limited awareness or perhaps you just do not care, or most likely - both. Does not matter in the end.

As to your male/female stuff I assume that is just your routine incel agenda popping up again, which whatever on that. We get it - you hate women and what you consider to be "female" characteristics.

Juan, It's kind of hilarious that you keep posting these things without any notion of what is going on in them. This is not a health official, it is the premier of Victoria. He is not telling people they have to get their boosters (they are not even rolled out in Australia yet), he was answering a hypothetical question (which purposefully wasn't shown in your video).

This was one of the most popular articles doing the rounds in Australia yesterday.



https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/10...lice-state-us/

Your posting really hasn't improved even since the ssfr days. You post the most bat **** stuff about Australia and covid while having no clue about what it is like here. You live in a bizarre echo chamber if this is all you think is going on in Australia, it's embarrassing to read.

Australia has plenty of problems, incredibly awful government powers of surveillance (possibly worst in the world), not bringing home stranded citizens during the pandemic etc. But you just **** post random twitter feeds that isn't based on reality for 99.99% of Australians.

The video Juan showed is spliced in at least two places. He saw the video posted by some random Twitter guy, and since it fit Juan's agenda, he literally doesn't care if it is out-of-context or not. I learned the hard way sometime back to not share videos that I haven't personally vetted.

Full Disclosure Statement: Juan and I are pretty much on the same page with this vaccination and lockdown garbage.

That's just false. My first several posts in this thread had specific Covid content. Not that I expect you to actually do thirty seconds of research to verify whether or not what you're saying is actually true or not.

I suppose we could do a lot of things. For example, the Perpetually Disgruntled around here could create their Safe Space Haven on Discord, or wherever.

Juan is oblivious to his own bias and blindness.

Now a lot of people are. They can only see things thru their own perspective but that leads him to only notice when people reply to Tooth and other maga garbage and not notice the maga garbage posted first. He doesn't notice stuff he agrees with.

And the idea that maybe Texas or Florida can set the example to export M'uh Freedoms to Australia and help liberate them just shows how blind and naïve maga minded posters are.

Australia is more free than the US in pretty much every way and its not even close. But the muh freedums derps are still all screaming to liberate them. FLOL.

Australians, who haven't been allowed to leave their country for 18 months, are more free than Americans in pretty much every way and it's not even close.

Correct.

Curios, specific ways Australians are more free?

Yeah, let's have a general political discussion about the freedoms in different countries. Ahnuld, you're trash. Let me mod this thread.

Well if you don't like it then call out Juan for introducing it.

Don't call out the people who reply to this obvious nonsense where the maga derps here feel the need to trumpet the talking point that paints Australia as some authoritarian wasteland that America needs to go liberate.

If you got the power to Mod this thread were your first move to be to remove the guys who INITIATE this type of talk (TS and Juan, etc) or would you leave them alone and only remove the people who reply?

You don't have to answer as we know that answer and all you are doing is proving Ahnuld more and more correct when he pointed out you guys bias.

And lets be real that bias is solely a desire for a safe space where one sided arguments (pro maga) can exist only.

I mean, fine if this forum wants to create such safe spaces but that you guys expect them and seem to feel it is wrong you don't get them is just endemic of todays youth. You all want safe spaces protected away from others.

You guys know you can create accounts on Trump's new 'Truth' forum right?

And great for you that in his bastion of Free Speech new Forum they have already made it clear that anyone bringing views they consider negative to them will be banned from the site.

It is the manifestation of what you guys want 'a maga right safe space' in the name of free speech that restricts speech in ways twitter and FB and all the hated sites do not.

Imagine that. There cry for Free Speech was hollow all along. SHOCK.

What are you talking about? The fidgety twerp who looks like they're still mentally recovering from receiving a world record of wedgies is stating his thoughts on maintaining your status as vaccinated. It's common knowledge the kangaroo kids are way behind in vaccinations. Obviously they haven't mandated boosters since they are trying to get everyone their 2nd jab.

I had posted similar pressers from the states where a year ago they started by saying there would be no vaccine mandates and they couldn't legally if they tried, to now announcing vaccine mandates

This is what I just wrote above the ausie presser. Its self explanatory but it also relates to what I previously posted.


Could you articulate why you posted that and why it's relevant? I get the no-you aspect but maybe be more specific. I don't find it the least bit compelling but maybe you could fill me in

You could fill a library with things I don't know about Australia. I realize there are different regions with different regulations. We could start with the person holding the pressers being an elected official and not an appointed health official. I'm actually a little surprised someone that unlikeable was elected vs appointed. I referred to them as a "health official" because they were repeatedly giving covid pressers as a government rep. I didn't care what their official title was so I just referred to them as health official as a broad description. They were representing the government on covid.

If I "post bat **** stuff about Australia and covid" why don't you be more specific? Why didn't you say anything before but chime in now with some general emotive comment? Are the Ausie lockdowns the same as other western countries or more strict? Do they have astronomical fines for not wearing a mask outdoors or not? Were the videos or articles I posted of the police aggressively enforcing the strict laws misleading? Do they have covid camps? Are they rolling out a geolocation phone app? Are they questioning people in parks for being outside too long (exceeding exercise time) or where they shouldn't be? Are the videos I posted of them pepper spraying minors at the mall fake? Were they showing up at peoples homes and questioning them about defiance in social media posts? Is it "bat **** insane" to assume that when the fidgety twerp suggests they will require boosters to maintain your status as vaccinated that he means it? Are they mandating vaccination for jobs?

Where did I go off the rails? Be specific. Use your words. Your post just seemed highly emotional. Perhaps take a few rips off an asthma puffer before responding in the future

I'll just put your first several posts in a spoiler. You and others can judge for themselves. I have zero interest in debating just let the record speak for itself

Hi, Juan.

You earlier said this:

My very first post in this thread that you admitted that you didn't read (since the mod deleted it) was me agreeing with and augmenting a post by MontrealCorp that was directly Covid-related. It had nothing to do with the moderators or another poster, or anything not Covid-related.

MontrealCorp's post was about how obesity is a key factor in Covid morbidity; it was that particular aspect of Covid that was deemed not in line with the intent of the thread.

Almost all of my posts are responses to other posters (whether Covid related or not), so I plead guilty to responding to posts that others have created.

As Cuepee said earlier, the "blame" (so to speak) is with the initial posters, not the responders.

I do agree with you that very few of my posts are Covid related, so I shall rectify that at once.

Anyway, stay well and be safe!

Do you just **** post 24/7? Australia vaccination rates have already surpassed the US after only really being pushed for <6 months. Our capital has over 90% of 12 year olds + double vaxxed. Our biggest state with reach 90% double vaxxed within a couple of weeks and the rest of the country is following. This isn't emotional, just close to everything you post is either wrong or disingenuous.

^^^ please someone ban this guy.

NO one wants to see rebuttals like this to the maga'tard politard stuff suggesting that Australia is not like the utopia that is the US with their freedums and is instead of basket case of fascism!

If you believe that stuff and even if you live there and no it not to be true, take it elsewhere, it is not welcome in our safe space and we don't want to read it.

Our freedum means we can say whatever we want and no matter how incredibly dumb or political we should never have to see any countering views.

FREEDUM!!! C'mon mod's give it to us and do your damn jobs.

/sarcasm

(and btw can we get rid of the QP guy too as he posted up thread data that shows every ranking agency who measures this stuff ranks Australia as more free than the US. Nobody wants to see that stuff. And just because they are more free does not mean they have more FREEDUMS!)

The kind of sad or funny part in this is that the people who are creating the videos and posting them on the fringy alt-right sources that people like the textbook incel keep finding (without knowing who they are or what they represent, heh) - those people are not even bothering to put any effort into making their badly spliced videos look accurate and realistic any more.

Bad cuts, intentional discoloration (to make some people look worse), clear context being removed (questions from a question and answer format). Hell, sometimes the people magically change outfits in the same clips instantly. The people making these know it does not matter because the consumers they are monetizing do not care at all, and even when the details are pointed out - look at the reply. Insults and whataboutisms. Whatever. I totally understand why the people creating these videos/photos/other content to suit their agendas and financial goals don't bother with the fine details - no added value as they hooked their passive consumers with much less effort.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...ountry=USA~AUS