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Originally Posted by ahnuld
Im thinking of shutting this thread down. It seems its impossible to keep it on point for a BFI form. Instead it just always devolves into some politics debate about covid. Is it salvageable? Can we get back on track? Or should I just shut it down?
Change my mind.
At no point have you taken even a little accountability. It's totally obvious that even the lightest touch of sensible moderation would keep this on track
1. You have posters from BFI. You also have posters who have zero contributions to BFI here to argue politics or spam ancient beef. Those two groups should not be treated the same. That is basically how other sub communities on this forum run. This has been explained before. For example the POG community has a politics thread (or they did last time I saw the section, I dont POG). Any posters from outside POG are on extremely thin ice there. If someone is disruptive they get called out and removed
We saw high volume idiotic spam dominate the thread from cuepee and monteroy for months. You did nothing. Own it. Imagine if a POG mod allowed toothsayer to obsessively spam their politics section daily and then throw their hands in the air and be like welp I don't know what to do here, might have to shut this down. hand control over to the disruption instead of doing your job? If you can't distinguish between tooth who is a polarizing contributor to bfi and posters like cuepee and monteroy, you're probably being blinded by your own personal bias
2. There are insane posters with brand new join dates. Not a complicated problem. If they have other accounts, those should be sanctioned and the community should be notified who the actual weirdo is
3. The thread would be fine if people with clear mental problems were told to just tone it down. Like cuepee is obviously out of his mind and exiling him is a reasonable decision. Alternatively if you just told him he's eating a ban if he posts more than 5x a week, people could easily ignore him. The same goes for lagtight. Upon arrival he spammed like 25 posts and none of which were on topic. Upon being notified of his behavior he self bans, then decides to un self ban, and then starts spam the thread with zero content again. We could all ignore his completely bizarre behavior if he only posted a handful of posts per week. Lagtight is a regular politics poster, a boomer, and a street preacher. He can be interesting if he's actually posting on topic
4. A little backstory in case you didn't know. The politics section was run by a loon for ages. As you may have realized the 2p2 population can be divided in many ways but one would be the internet poker boom. This site attracted a lot of young intelligent people while also having a lot of degenerate losers. As you could imagine the young people who figured out how to make money on their computer are very different than the degenerate boomers. The politics section run by a complete weirdo distilled and shaped a community of the most degenerate socially r-worded weirdos on the site. I recognize successful online players here in the bfi section and one would be a unicorn from the politics section.
If you click on the who posted icon in the politics section covid thread you will notice overlap of who is ruining this thread. If you were familiar with the politics section, you'll instantly recognize the weirdos or the tone of the brand new accounts. All of this has been explained one way or another. Allowing people from an insane asylum that is deceptively called a politics forum to overrun a bfi thread isn't a problem that requires a whole lot of complexity to fix
Proposed solution(s)
1. Almost no rope given to people outside of bfi acting like dolts. Literally problem solved
2. Exile 3-4 obvious posters from the thread. Literally problem solved
3. Tell the 3-4 weirdos that never contributed to bfi who are spamming in high volume they will be sanctioned if they post more than 5x per week. Literally problem solved
Since I prefer light moderation, I'd go with 3