Well, if you had a clue (which you obviously haven't) you might realize that obese people have compromised immune systems mainly due to severe vitamin D deficiency.

Severe vitamin D deficiency is the highest risk factor for covid by far.

Again, the argumentation used is wrong.

If catching COVID just meant that if you're fat there's a big chance you die quickly, and otherwise it's like having a cold, COVID would not be an issue.

The issue is (1) the amount of people dying of it that are old or have health complications, (2) its ability to kill young and healthy occassionally and (3) its ability to absolutely overload even the best of healthcare systems.

(1) is solved by vaccinating the old and weak, agreed. We can further protect them by vaccinating everyone. But maybe hard to make it mandatory to get vaccinated for that reason.
(2) is solved by vaccinating everyone. But maybe hard to make it mandatory to get vaccinated for that reason.
(3) hospitals right now are filled with unvaccinated people now. And this is when things look best with vaccines being freshly administered in the old & weak. Even if all the unvaccinated magically survive their time at the hospital (they aren't, death in USA f.e. is very high right now), as long as hospitals & ICUs remain filled, we wont be going back to normal. Getting vaccinated is doing your part so the world can go back to normal. If everyone acted like the anti-vaxers, delta would have probably collapsed healthcare in many nations now, and would have stressed health care supply chains to its absolute maximum.

If you agree with (3) and are not getting vaccinated, I don't understand how you tell yourself it's ok not to take the vaccine.

That's complete BS. I'm vaccinated, so why isn't the world back to normal yet? They keep moving the goalposts. "Two weeks to flatten the curve", "herd immunity", now "mandatory vaccinations". It's never going to go back to normal. Our governments will continue to use the pandemic to seize as much power and money as they can while lying to us. Corporate media will continue to sow division and lie to us. Welcome to the new normal.

I dont ever remember the goal post being, just vaccinate Simple Rick and it will all be over.

Lol ?
Unless you implying lack of vitamins D will make u fat,
Im thinking , meh , being fat or not , weak immune system will lack vitamin D ….

But hey it sounded cool.

Obesity is one of the major cause of death for a reason for multiple illness .
they lack a lot of $h!t , not just vitamin D.

You aren't related to Cuepee by any chance are you?

Everywhere in the world where there has been a lot of vaccination, >90% of people in hospitals are unvaccinated. Doesn't that make it obvious?

Also, people need to stop all this **** with the goalposts. This is not a static crisis, it's dynamic. Saying that experts said something that is no longer true 1 year ago and acting like that is the "proof that this crisis is being used to control us and seize power and money" is like saying a military expert is full of **** because his analysis on the evolution of conflicts in the Middle East he made on 01/01/2001 ended up being completely wrong.

All the variants ****ed us, the larger anti-vax movement than expected ****ed us, the vaccine protection being less strong than expected (against variants) ****ed us,...

This is a completely false statement.

Obese people have compromised immune systems for a large number of reasons related to their obesity, not mainly (or at all) Vitamin D.

Obesity fundamentally alters the way the immune system works in multiple ways, and a poor immune system is most of the preventable cause of heart disease, cancer and other illnesses.

I have unsuccessfully looked for unvaccinated hospitalization and death percentages by age group for delta. Can someone assist or point me in right direction? TIA

Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning

the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...eading/620062/

It is interesting because this piece comes from The Atlantic, left wing fear-mongering media.

Additionally, at least in New York, there is a mandate that hospitals can't release a patient until they have a negative PCR test. It doesn't matter why they went to the hospital or if they have symptoms or not (or if beds are needed for other patients), if someone tests positive at the hospital they are forced to stay there until they test negative. Some patients are forced to stay for 2 months!

Let’s see who raises their hand

The "PROBLEM" is you ignore this crystal clear correlation that is happening all across the USA and now in Canada.

Regardless of any of the questions you ask it is clear that 'the more Muh Freedums' Derps you have in an area the more this problem happens and the more collateral deaths you end up with as a result.

Reduce the number of Freedum Derps and you reduce the number of collateral deaths. FACT.


You then go into the worst and most stupid of Freedum Derp defense arguments trying to say 'ok sure those collateral deaths are happening but if they just got fit and ate better it would save more lives'.

It is such an astoundingly stupid argument and if you do not understand why no amount of explaining it to you will help. You simply would not be smart enough to grasp the obvious failure of your argument.

Ahaha what? This is satire right?

My original source was https://www.news10.com/top-stories/a...l-whole-story/

Looking into it a bit more, I may of found a better source... I think this only applies when discharging to a nursing home or adult care facility. https://health.ny.gov/professionals/...ed_testing.pdf

Is this wrong?

One Province turning down help to another to take in, what will inevitably be a preponderance of Muh Freedum derps to their ICU beds and thus denying that care to others in their Province?

Take this to the extreme and ask if one Province (State) full of Derps should be allowed to over flow facilities in many neighbouring Provinces (States) while all the others can do is take them in and suffer the fall out??

Who would agree with that?


Howard Stern takes a much more radical view thinking the Derps should just stay home and die at home secure in their Freedums and convictions.

Thoughts?


(inb4 Derps focus solely on the word "cure" when it should have been 'mitigation', while they miss the point of what he was saying)

Okay you are soo insanely far off that it isn't even funny anymore. Why do you make these statements? What is wrong with you? Like I literally posted a link to data on this yesterday, seems like nobody is even looking. All you guys are interested in is discussing political views and antivax vs pro-vax. Jfc.

Because you are too lazy to click a link to actual, real world data from a western country that has in the relevant age category a vaccination rate of > 90%, I will here post the screenshot. Especially for you:

1. and 3. was correctly predicted by your so called antivaxxers back in 2020 february-march when first talks about vaccines came which obviously led to 2.

so the question arises 1. either scientists who created vaccines are dumber than antivaxxers or 2. they knew it and did it anyway cause ... money?

155% ICU occupancy in Alberta now, sounds like if everyone was a little more about the greater good we could save a lot more lives and keep hospital beds open for the rest of the population for other matters.

As far as the obese claims, how much of the USA is obese? Between olds and obese you must be looking at way over 50% of the country. This isn't some tiny fringe part of the population. And in that I've not including any of the other comorbidities.

The jab is no big deal, whatever "being struck by lightning" odds are even smaller when it comes to adverse effects from the jab.

As the older Lebowski said, "condolences, the bums lost!"

Antivax bums that is.

Again, 200 ICU beds for 4.5 million people. 155% means they only need 313 beds. That's just over 100 people who need an ICU bed that aren't getting one....in the middle of a pandemic, with a really bad variant. The government has no one to blame but itself. They've had 2 years and hundreds of billions of dollars to pre-empt this, and they didn't.

80% of the population has been vaccinated. Even if the number was 100%, the ICU would still be very overloaded, so quit making false assertions that the reason for it being overloaded is the unvaccinated.

Try and have a little perspective.

Obese people are generally known to be vitamin D deficient. So are old people. So are diabetics. They all have compromised or weaker immune systems. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see a connection.

And they all are high risk for covid.

I work on a college campus where almost all students are vaccinated (they were mandated). However there is still an indoor mask mandate for everyone, vaccinated or not. And staff is supposed to enforce this rule.

But, there is such widespread and rampant disregard for the mask rule that I am inclined to just ignore it and stop even approaching students who I see without masks on. But some of my staff are fanatical about it and so we spend half our time every day arguing with students to put their masks on. We can report them but nothing really happens to them.

So doesn't it make sense to just say, I'm vaccinated, I'm masked... that's enough, let everyone else do what they want? How much time are workers supposed to spend trying to enforce these policies?

Somewhat related, I saw a story this morning about a hostess at a NYC restaurant who got attacked by a group for asking for their proof of vaccine to eat inside.

Regardless of whether the policy is fascist or not, a policy I do not agree with, how is violence the action that you support?