If you didn't know this without reading this lolooolol. This was established long ago. With emergency approval. The rest of us already knew this and factored in when deciding to vaccinate

You wrongly claimed my changing position on Let it Rip was inconsistent when it is perfectly consistent and logical. Do you now understand that you were wrong?

As you stumble along dumbly you now seem to think my comments re the vulnerable are inconsistent and i am happy to prove you dumb and wrong again (as it is easy) but if you do not acknowledge your prior dumbness and mistake, why bother? If you don't have the intellect to understand what you are being told (derp, derp) why bother?

lulz.

That is one of the mildest 'legal warnings' you will find on any medicine.

Yup.

Even after full approval the 'long term' effectives will remain unknown because the only way to absolutely know them is to observe the medicine over a long period of time. Prior to that all you have is an extrapolation and projection as real data comes in over the 'long term'.

Can you provide the quote of me saying this? I trolled you saying you're anti mask now, which again, is funny because you've been the most ******ed, loud, and dogmatic proponent of trash masks (bragged about your collection of free [fake] surgical masks). And the bullshit you wrote about how we must take every precaution imaginable to protect people that, despite having the vaccine, are very vulnerable to mild covid but still want to go out in public and catch colds/flu n whatnot. You said we need to separate those vulnerable people (who have the vaccine) from the derps who don't give a **** about catching and passing on covid, which is currently you if you don't want to wear a mask??

I mean it's the correct position and one I share. The difference is how you arrive at the position. I did because I'm pragmatic and rational. You got there through wanting to stick it to the derps, which has always been a primary motivation for you.




What an incredible paragraph.

Please do re: the vulnerable. And please answer the other questions about whether you think Covid19 may have been picked from the vault. As you say it would be super easy and GTO for the US enemies to do so.

Olaf congrats you found the SMOKING GUN

Personally I don't pay any attention to pharma legalese unless they read it on TV while showing people having fun at a carnival

Can we declare a no u amnesty itt?

I don't have to quote you as you are saying it again.

To think you can troll me over a logically changing position as conditions change (pre vaccine position to post vaccine position) just shows how dumb you continue to be.

It would be like trolling someone for saying they will not wear a scuba mask while on dry ground but change that view when under water.

ZOMG TooCurious you are so smart by trolling them on that inconsistency. ZOMG you really nailed them by pointing out the inconsistency.

But anyway you have absolutely proven my point that you are still amongst those too dumb to understand it.

Monteroy too has tried to explain the difference but you are literally incapable of comprehending what is being said and that is on you, not us.

You need to demonstrate that you truly understand why it is not only logical but consistent to have moved from a Mask/Precautions pre vaccine to a 'Let it Rip' one after and until you show an ability to comprehend these discussions there is no point in digging layers down while you fumble at the surface with your high IQ. FLOL.

That was 2 months ago.

Fast forward to today, QP doesn't care that by him not wearing a mask he increases the risk of very vulnerable people catching mild Covid, which can kill them.

He understands that if he were to get Covid, a properly worn free surgy that he got from his Walmart visit 2 weeks ago, will decrease the odds someone like his Aunt catches it from either a vaccinated or unvaccinated person.

Even though the worst masks are highly effective (any goddamn thing'll do), they require next to 0 effort, and are not annoying, he won't do it. Because ultimately this will hurt the chances of inoculating the derps which deserve it.

Conspiracy theatre / paranoia taken to a new level ...

lol at the guy quoting me proving my point.


Yes absolutely the 'refuse to get vax'd' group should absolutely hurry up and get covid as soon as possible.

If you are not a dumb person you can understand why it makes sense now but did not make sense to do so when people who wanted to get the vax where not yet eligible to do so.


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TooCuriousso1 : but , but i can quote you saying you would not wear the scuba mask a few days ago while you wear on land and today as you enter the water you are saying you will wear it. GOTCHA!

(the above is a joke, but also reality on how dumb people cannot factor in situations changing and think they find gotcha's when they do not but only think it as they are dumb. FLOL)

Conspiracy theatre / paranoia taken to a new level ...

We heard that one before - its kind of stale. Heat wave was better.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...us/3000638001/

scroll down in that very article he says covid 19 cases are undercounted. excess deaths agree. even if a hospital receieves more money, no one is ever put on a ventilator for extra money. the process for determining if someone need mechanical ventilation due to covid 19 is the same worldwide

LOL!

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...cov-2-variants

"No, COVID-19 Vaccines Do Not Cause New Coronavirus Variants. Dubious claims that vaccines are causing new variants of the novel coronavirus are spreading on social media. These false reports have increased after French virologist Luc Montagnier was reported to have made the same claim in an interview"

"However, scientific evidence shows the opposite is true."

LOL!

I'll grant you that a lot has changed in Canada in the last two months vaccine wise. Not nearly as much so for the US. Again, not my point (see exhibit A where you cannot quote it).

Was entirely about your mask wearing stance wrt to protecting the 'very vulnerable to mild covid' as it's clear the vaccinated can now spread.

Fortunately for you and Aunt QP your free surgy wearing, or lack of, doesn't matter. You can tap out by admitting it

Pfizer and others are working on a cure, as distinct from a vaccine. I believe it’s already in human trials but not certain.

Kinda depressing...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...mask-guidance/

Masks for everyone for the foreseeable future and boosters for the aged seems like the most likely path, along with lots more death and suffering unfortunately.

Masks help but the failure to hammer home the message not to do stuff with a mask that you wouldn't do without is magnified now, Delta is so infectious that if you spend some time close to an infected person (and vice versa) then spreading covid is highly likely unless immune or wearing FPP3/etc type masks rather than the common ones.

Vaccines are the only answer left for most countries. Fortunately it's a very good answer.

My favorite TV show theme song!

I was confused by this quote.

"Herd immunity is not relevant as we are seeing plenty of evidence of repeat and breakthrough infections."

As far as I know, we aren't seeing plenty of evidence of repeat infections. The latest UK data identified 16k possible reinfections out of 4 million cases, and confirmed only 53 of them.

And I was even more confused because, from what I can tell, the CDC isn't even trying to track repeat infections in the US. So where did that opinion come from?

Says the guy who is aggressively dismissive or blind to any data that does not fit his thesis.

No one censors harder than you.

Its a shame you dont have the self awareness to realise why you managed the singular achievement of being banned from this thread.

You are being polite regarding questioning CDC conclusions. I will be less polite, one should be highly skeptical of the CDC data, proclamations, recommendations, and conclusions at this point in time.

Cdc has saved your life more times then you will ever know about ( pre covid) . They are staffed with humans that are vastly more intelligent then you or anyone in your family. The fact you question anything about them shows how little you know about science, and more specifically viral infections. The cdc is America's last line of defense vs all biological threats. You can't even comprehend the work that they do.