Ignorance and stupidity on both sides, just much more on one of them

classic victim blaming

Elderly have orders of magnitude higher death rates from living another day. We need to get to the bottom of this time and aging conspiracy.

Connect the dots.

#ConnectTheDots

I think it's very high probability to have come from the Wuhan lab, accidentally. I think it's very low probability it was a bioweapon and I don't think the novel cytokine storm stuff adds any evidence of it, the claims of it being novel seem bogus and even if so I don't think it add much evidence.

Couldn't they have timed the news for this though?

Quite possibly but idk. I just wanted to point out that the headline was a little misleading. It's not like they went out and sold after they saw the stock go up. And I'm pretty sure they realize how the optics look here.

It's pretty common place for officers of a company to have regularly scheduled transactions like this. Like the CEO of NFLX sells off around $23 million in NFLX every month.

It's called a 10b5-1 plan and is very common. An executive places stock into a trust and outlines a sell plan well in advance. It allos them to sell on a regular basis with immunity from insider trading accusations.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...r-cent-chance/

Oxford University Covid-19 vaccine trial has only 50 per cent chance of success
Exclusive: Project leader Prof Hill warns against 'over-promising', as vaccine success is far from guaranteed

50% sounds like overpromising but also depends on the timeline

It's a very misleading headline. He is saying that there's a 50% chance the trial wont produce a result either way because the virus is disappearing so fast.

Read it in full now. 50% chance that they won't get any result at all because not enough volunteers are naturally infected automatically lowers the chances of the vaccine working even more.

Yes in a way. Although part of that is it would have worked but us never knowing that it does.

It's an interesting story just being presented in a misleading way. I haven't quite worked out if the study failing because the virus disappears too fast is a good thing or a bad thing.

They should recruit subjects in the US. Problem solved, as the virus isn't going away any time soon over here.

The fact they won’t give covid-19 to young healthy paid volunteers due to ethical concerns, risking additional death and pain worldwide bc they cant find enough participants, actually makes me sick.

I think this is the weekend that social distancing got kicked to the curb in the US

There's no shortage of willing participants. Someone could do a comic story about the search for a vaccine where they trial the vaccination on so many people in an attempt to find a few who catch a disappearing virus that they end up with the whole population vaccinated, the virus gone and still don't know if it works.

I'll leave aside the ethical issue of giving people the virus. We've done that enough.

Does anyone have any good info on how bad this virus is in Africa & Central/South Africa these days?

Curious because some examples look really bad, for example Brazil data:
363k confirmed cases, but only 735k tests.
Is the test data dated, or are they really testing close to 50% positive in Brazil?

They are currently #2 in number of cases and number... 19 in number of tests.

It's not just about ethics and law. You are still only simulating when doing it in the lab.

LOL. Just stop with acting like any of us know something like this with certainty.

Yeah, you're right. A 90% probability would be more accurate.

BUT BUT BUT TWO MORE WEEKS GUYS LOL

This has just been stated by the public health director of the World Health Organization in an interview with a Spanish radio. This is big news, huge actually. Now let's see the media swipe this under the rug and not even mention it.

https://www.elcomercio.es/sociedad/o....google.com%2F

The only article about this so far is in Spanish because it's just been reported but I made a draft translation with some key points for you all to understand:

The World Health Organization considers it increasingly unlikely that there will be a second wave of the coronavirus. Interviewed by RAC-1 Radio from Catalunha, the WHO's public health director, Maria Neria has said that the models that the organization works with are consistently showing that a second wave is unlikely.

"There are a lot of models that predict many different things, from a very small, consistent increase in cases to a big spike but the latter is getting increasingly discarded" stated Maria Neria, according to news agency Efe, assuring that no matter what happens "we are much better prepared in every single area"

According to the specialist, the virus' transmissibility has decreased in such a way that "it will be very difficult for the virus to survive". It's not possible to understand yet if we've reached the of this first wave but the data gathered so far has shown that a major crisis was avoided during the first weeks. However Maria Neria alerts that "it's no use making predictions because as many countries start easing restrictions, the coming weeks will be fundamental"

Seriously, tell us more.

We all want to know exactly what happened.

Banworthy, total utter bullshit.

Meanwhile in the real world.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...of-second-peak

While I agree with you, absolute joke quoting the WHO as if they have any credibility left whatsoever.