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11-13-2017 , 11:27 AM
Why are prices on Bithumb significantly higher than other prices ? How does that work?
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11-13-2017 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tdoggtizzle
Is HitBTC a good place to buy and sell?
HitBTC is a bit shady. I wouldn't trust them with any significant amount of money, and especially not keep it there for trading.
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11-13-2017 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by the real mg0698
Why are prices on Bithumb significantly higher than other prices ? How does that work?
The ecosystem is already mature enough that there is no arbitrage opportunity outside of automated bots scraping a few cents/dollars.

I don't know about this specific site, but there is always a reason. Could be anything from the exchange having high wire fees, long cash out periods or god knows what.
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11-13-2017 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
I tried to time the market on the BCH scenario. **** me. Things started out well for me, but then I screwed up and ended up with a crappy 2.8 BCH and $1,000 loss. Ughhhh, I should have just held my BTC instead of riding the pump.

I'm waiting for BCH to go up again so I can get rid of this **** lol. Right now it trades at .18. I want it to get up to .30, but that may not happen. Maybe I should just cut my loses. Although January could come around give me the perfect opportunity to dump it once coinbase adds BCH as an option.

I had a very depressing day today as a result. :'(
I didn't even tell the full story because I was so depressed, but I managed to panic sell my BTC when it was rapidly crashing at $5614 (hello bottom), then cursed my stupidity and rebought at $6200. Then as if that wasn't enough to teach me a good lesson, I panic sold my BCH while it was RAPIDLY crashing at $1415 (hello again bottom!) only to watch it IMMEDIATELY spike back up to $1800 prompting me to buy again out of fear and now it's back down to $1200 so I got to take those losses twice. Well over 1k loss all from idiotic attempts at trading. I feel ya bruh!

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Originally Posted by OFA
I naively assumed that the price showing on Coinbase is the price you get and they make their money on the Fee...

Just bought €5000 of Bitcoin when it was showing value of €5700.... Noticed after the transaction I bought at €5900 + 70€ fee

FML. Whats a better way of buying/Selling BTC so I dont get ****ed again
I tried to introduce my UK friend to bitcoin and from what they experienced it's a real ***** to get BTC at any reasonable price there. The banks apparently won't do business with crypto exchanges so you have to make international euro deposits for most, pay large premiums for others, etc etc. There doesn't seem to be any reasonable way to get it done.
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11-13-2017 , 01:22 PM
What kind of premium is btc going for on local bitcoin in the UK?
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11-13-2017 , 02:16 PM
Duffy (CME CEO) was just on CNBC and said the futures contract should be active by the second week of December. Probably a 20% limit stop.
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11-13-2017 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
I tried to introduce my UK friend to bitcoin and from what they experienced it's a real ***** to get BTC at any reasonable price there. The banks apparently won't do business with crypto exchanges so you have to make international euro deposits for most, pay large premiums for others, etc etc. There doesn't seem to be any reasonable way to get it done.
Yeah its pure BS... I am only buying to try leave it there a year and hopefully the increase will be enough to get over the % i just lost buying it
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11-13-2017 , 03:29 PM
How much bitcoin is actually used as a means to buy and sell things, rather than just a speculative currency for investors?
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11-13-2017 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
I tried to time the market on the BCH scenario. **** me. Things started out well for me, but then I screwed up and ended up with a crappy 2.8 BCH and $1,000 loss. Ughhhh, I should have just held my BTC instead of riding the pump.

I'm waiting for BCH to go up again so I can get rid of this **** lol. Right now it trades at .18. I want it to get up to .30, but that may not happen. Maybe I should just cut my loses. Although January could come around give me the perfect opportunity to dump it once coinbase adds BCH as an option.

I had a very depressing day today as a result. :'(
Sucks to suck.

The sum of forks is at an all-time-high.

Current Bitcoin Price = $8114.06 --- Includes Sum of Forks, Core $6448.30 + Cash $1418.83 + Gold $246.93
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11-13-2017 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
How much bitcoin is actually used as a means to buy and sell things, rather than just a speculative currency for investors?
Zero
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11-13-2017 , 05:17 PM
How do I tell if I have any Bitcoin Gold? I don't remember if I had any BTC during the fork
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11-13-2017 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by the real mg0698
How do I tell if I have any Bitcoin Gold? I don't remember if I had any BTC during the fork
Looks like you can check pre-fork address balances here:

https://bitcoingold.org/
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11-14-2017 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tdoggtizzle
Is HitBTC a good place to buy and sell?
I trade there and like it thus far.

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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
I didn't even tell the full story because I was so depressed, but I managed to panic sell my BTC when it was rapidly crashing at $5614 (hello bottom), then cursed my stupidity and rebought at $6200. Then as if that wasn't enough to teach me a good lesson, I panic sold my BCH while it was RAPIDLY crashing at $1415 (hello again bottom!) only to watch it IMMEDIATELY spike back up to $1800 prompting me to buy again out of fear and now it's back down to $1200 so I got to take those losses twice. Well over 1k loss all from idiotic attempts at trading. I feel ya bruh!



I tried to introduce my UK friend to bitcoin and from what they experienced it's a real ***** to get BTC at any reasonable price there. The banks apparently won't do business with crypto exchanges so you have to make international euro deposits for most, pay large premiums for others, etc etc. There doesn't seem to be any reasonable way to get it done.
Man that sucks. I know your pain. You could make a deal with your UK friend. Have him wire money over to you for Bitcoin. He can generate an address on Bitaddress.org and you can send your Bitcoin to him. Another option is for him to sign up on an exchange with a VPN making it look like he's from another country (this could be pretty risky though).

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Originally Posted by de captain
Zero
Not true. There are some merchants out there that accept BTC. It isn't wide spread, but they are out there. Also, it is an excellent way for depositing on gambling sites.
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11-14-2017 , 04:37 AM
If UK look in to Coinfloor. Coinbase works just fine in UK too, if you're looking for smaller credit-card sized buys (limits increase substantially once you've had an account for a while). It's cashing out that's the main issue, but if you're holding no need to worry about that for now.
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11-14-2017 , 06:03 AM
Hey all,

Is there some newbie howto bitcoin thread? For basic
And site where to reg and buy bitcoins with skrill?

Thank you
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11-14-2017 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
The ecosystem is already mature enough that there is no arbitrage opportunity outside of automated bots scraping a few cents/dollars.

I don't know about this specific site, but there is always a reason. Could be anything from the exchange having high wire fees, long cash out periods or god knows what.
Not at all, I've been arbitraging since 2015. It is the EASIEST thing to arbitrage as long as you have enough funds on various exchanges. I.E. the rich get richer.
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11-14-2017 , 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ECTAE
Not at all, I've been arbitraging since 2015. It is the EASIEST thing to arbitrage as long as you have enough funds on various exchanges. I.E. the rich get richer.
Well done, in that case i stand corrected.

I always thought that whenever there were price differences it was because an exchange not doing cash outs, aka, you might have made a paper gain in USD, but the only way to get the money out is by trading it into crypto and then losing that gain again.

So you're doing this without automated trading/bots? And i assume you have a way to keep international wire costs very low?

Feel free to not answer if you don't want to share, my interest is purely intellectual and i'm curious about the risks involved.
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11-14-2017 , 06:39 AM
About UK, i think it has been mentioned somewhere else:

1) Use revolut app, fund gbp to gbp
2) Revolut allows monthly 5k conversion at spot price. GBP to Euro. After that you pay 0.5%. For bigger amounts you can always use transferwise clones that are cheaper.
3) Send euro to kraken/bitstamp

Pls share with your friends, revolut is amazing from what people say (i'm not a user), i read they will allow holding BTC as well. Probably buying through an exchange will still be better. But imagine them integrating shapeshift/changelly... that would be nuts.
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11-14-2017 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ThinkItThrough
Well done, in that case i stand corrected.

I always thought that whenever there were price differences it was because an exchange not doing cash outs, aka, you might have made a paper gain in USD, but the only way to get the money out is by trading it into crypto and then losing that gain again.

So you're doing this without automated trading/bots? And i assume you have a way to keep international wire costs very low?

Feel free to not answer if you don't want to share, my interest is purely intellectual and i'm curious about the risks involved.
There's also the counterparty risk of getting Goxed.
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11-14-2017 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by HeardARumor
Sucks to suck.

The sum of forks is at an all-time-high.

Current Bitcoin Price = $8114.06 --- Includes Sum of Forks, Core $6448.30 + Cash $1418.83 + Gold $246.93
This is a bit misleading, as the supply of the different coins are not the full 16.5 million. Bitcoin Cash has a lot of supply removed by exchanges and wallet providers that haven't implemented support for accessing your coins yet.
Gold doesn't even have replay protection yet. No one is even trading it, they are trading futures for it, and the only coins available to buy are the ones that were deposited on certain exchanges at the snapshot date.
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11-14-2017 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Not true. There are some merchants out there that accept BTC. It isn't wide spread, but they are out there. Also, it is an excellent way for depositing on gambling sites.
I'm a merchant that accepts it. No one is buying anything with bitcoin.
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11-14-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
I'm a merchant that accepts it. No one is buying anything with bitcoin.
So am I and people use it. But way below 5% to state the obvious.

A more objective metric would be to look at bitpay and supposedly they are growing despite BTC in it's current form being anything but e-commerce friendly.

Once that beloved 2nd layer comes, adoption could grow again at rates it did pre full blocks.
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11-14-2017 , 04:02 PM
https://amp.businessinsider.com/bitc...-group-2017-11


Also mike novogratz is launching a merchant bank for crypto & fintech businesses
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11-14-2017 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
How much bitcoin is actually used as a means to buy and sell things, rather than just a speculative currency for investors?
We have an idea of the volume of BTC that was passing through Silk Road which was the biggest marketplace and an actual real world use of bitcoin and it was quite a small.
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11-14-2017 , 06:37 PM
half the threads in the this forum are crypto related. lol. totally not a bubble!
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