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04-14-2021 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by The Apex
I started listening to this on Spotify. One of the hosts said he made some of his $ from poker early on in one of the episodes.
ya they spend a while talking about how soft crypto is now compares to poker lol.

hint: crypto is INSANELY soft right, this is party poker 2005 days.

i mean the stainky liank isn't even a top 5 crypto yet, what a joke this market is

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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Translation: FedCoin good, bitcoin bad. Money laundering bad. Crackdown coming.
"first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win"

lmaoooooo you obv haven't learned **** from andreas antonopoulos, you are spouting the same nooby **** every other bitcoin noob spouts

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Originally Posted by rickroll
appearance matters and pointing out he's not doing a good job is a valid observation

it's not an ad hominem attack, you're interpreting that oddly and then ironically going for a genuine ad hominem after your faux accusation
k troll lol ur work in this thread speaks for itself

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Originally Posted by TheNonPareil
It’s funny that the same things bullish bitcoiners celebrate, guys that sold way too early (Shuffle) say is bad.

I forgot you’re still bullish on Bitcoin but everything is bad. Got it.

You are seriously brain dead if you think Bitcoin isn’t here to stay as an asset class.

How can people continually be wrong and just keep firing off the horrible takes. I know you are sad you sold so early but my god man, quit embarrassing yourself.

Yes there will be regulation, and then it’s going to explode WAY higher. It’s bizarre you people that think regulation is going to be a bad thing for the Bitcoin price.
he's hella salty he sold

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Originally Posted by TheNonPareil
The denominator has changed unlike we have ever seen. Quit trying to compare this to 2013 or 2017.

Eventually it either makes it or it doesn't. Me and my shaking quivering huge gains bet is that it makes it now.
he might want to start w/ willy woo and ecoinometrics, all the fud he's bringing up is old news 2017 ptsd stuff
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04-14-2021 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
He's aggressively more pro enforcement than the previous guy.
Crypto people think the opposite. Crypto people are happy with this appointment.
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04-14-2021 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
i enjoyed railing him on ftp


Sn?
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04-14-2021 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Cool. How many people at your work?
At any given day there are roughly 20-40 people in the facility. Lately it has been on the lower side.

@MeleaB: I wish I worked at Google.

I hear a lot about Alex Wice in this thread. And although I speak out of my ass from time to time without knowing all the information, I suspect he may go broke for a few reasons stated in this thread:

1) If he lost 14 to 20 million so far out of his 100 million in this bull run that is not a good sign.
2) He is betting with 100mil in crypto which is his entire networth. If this is true and he isn’t putting even the slightest bit off to the side I suspect that he may be chasing a gambler’s rush, because 980 mil vs 1 bil is pretty much insignificant in terms of quality of life.
3) He is in the hospital which is not when you have the clearest of mind.

I hope I am wrong, but based on the limited information I’ve looked at it doesn’t look pretty.

Also guys calm down a bit. No reason to make things so personal and attack one another. People are going to have different ideas than you and sometimes you can be wrong and look like a fool later. There is no reason to degrade other people’s intelligence. For what it is worth, I think most on 2+2 probably are above average on average.
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04-14-2021 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Also guys calm down a bit. No reason to make things so personal and attack one another. People are going to have different ideas than you and sometimes you can be wrong and look like a fool later. There is no reason to degrade other people’s intelligence. For what it is worth, I think most on 2+2 probably are above average on average.
agreed 100%, but i'm oh so happy to give anyone who comes at me with teh disrespect that smoke.

normally i'm quite gregarious and generous.

but you know it's the internet, people are always aggressively toxic with their intelligence because they are used to the average dumb dumb who is intimidated by their intelligence.
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04-14-2021 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Apex
Sn?
IHateJuice
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04-14-2021 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ZodiacalRelease
agreed 100%, but i'm oh so happy to give anyone who comes at me with teh disrespect that smoke.

normally i'm quite gregarious and generous.

but you know it's the internet, people are always aggressively toxic with their intelligence because they are used to the average dumb dumb who is intimidated by their intelligence.
your self awareness is oretty much zero

you've managed to pick fights with both johnny, shuffle and I, that's quite an accomplishment just swinging in all directions, next you'll square off vs housenuts and ts for an encore
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04-14-2021 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Who?
https://twitter.com/Bloqport/status/1381160913944911872

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Originally Posted by rickroll
your self awareness is oretty much zero

you've managed to pick fights with both johnny and I, that's quite an accomplishment just swinging in all directions
my therapist disagrees
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04-14-2021 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
At any given day there are roughly 20-40 people in the facility. Lately it has been on the lower side.

@MeleaB: I wish I worked at Google.

I hear a lot about Alex Wice in this thread. And although I speak out of my ass from time to time without knowing all the information, I suspect he may go broke for a few reasons stated in this thread:

1) If he lost 14 to 20 million so far out of his 100 million in this bull run that is not a good sign.
2) He is betting with 100mil in crypto which is his entire networth. If this is true and he isn’t putting even the slightest bit off to the side I suspect that he may be chasing a gambler’s rush, because 980 mil vs 1 bil is pretty much insignificant in terms of quality of life.
3) He is in the hospital which is not when you have the clearest of mind.

I hope I am wrong, but based on the limited information I’ve looked at it doesn’t look pretty.

Also guys calm down a bit. No reason to make things so personal and attack one another. People are going to have different ideas than you and sometimes you can be wrong and look like a fool later. There is no reason to degrade other people’s intelligence. For what it is worth, I think most on 2+2 probably are above average on average.
FYI Awice said on stream today his net worth is in the 200-400M range. With that much on the line in leveraged markets any 5% move is gonna cause some swings.

You gotta take what he says with a grain of salt. With a billion in his sights he will be pumping harder than anyone has ever pumped. But it should say something that there is so much money to be made that he's trading at 2AM in an Asian ICU.
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04-14-2021 , 09:01 PM
Whats the awice stream link?


Lol at shuffle. Amazing that you kinda get it yet miss so badly.
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04-14-2021 , 10:05 PM
Gensler on balance is definitely good for bitcoin/crypto.

taught MIT classes on bitcoin, and Hester Pierce has been talking a lot lately about the new direction the SEC can take with Gensler as head wrt to crypto. I dont think she would do so much press/PR talking about crypto if she wasn't confident that he would help her remove the barriers put up by the previous administrations.

But there are of course drawbacks because with increased oversight they will probably go in and also begin influencing and creating precedent in terms of regulation in other areas. I think as an overall gameplan over the next 4 years I'd expect some kind of combination of:

1/ btc etf
2/ binance sued, domain captured by DOJ/SEC (ftx gets a pass because Sam donated 13m to Joe Biden)
3/ congress will outlaw exchanges from allowing trading of purely privacy coins like zcash/xmr
4/ all use exchanges will force customers to make declarations that no economic or crypto activity was/is/will be related with privacy coins



from a strategic and overarching strategy I also think BTC vs ETH will become a proxy for west vs china for how crypto and digital currencies look in the next 10 years. USA and the west will make a calculated decision that ETH and to a lesser extent BTC will be net positive for competition vs China and retaining power. ETH and other public blockchains will 100% be used by govts to subvert and destabilize China long term.

Last edited by aggo; 04-14-2021 at 10:11 PM.
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04-14-2021 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo
I think as an overall gameplan over the next 4 years I'd expect some kind of combination of:

1/ btc etf
2/ binance sued, domain captured by DOJ/SEC (ftx gets a pass because Sam donated 13m to Joe Biden)
3/ congress will outlaw exchanges from allowing trading of purely privacy coins like zcash/xmr
4/ all use exchanges will force customers to make declarations that no economic or crypto activity was/is/will be related with privacy coins
I'm not so sure about this one. Zcash has already established itself as an AML/KYC compliant privacy coin. There's nothing inherently wrong with privacy and it's backwards to think wanting private transactions means you have something to hide. I actually think Zcash will be one of the big winners in the decade ahead. Monero I'm less confident about but it has a very strong grassroots community.

MAR 2019: Zcash is Compatible with AML/CFT Regulation

SEP 2019: Zcash Regulatory & Compliance Brief
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04-14-2021 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GlassGlazer
Whats the awice stream link?


Lol at shuffle. Amazing that you kinda get it yet miss so badly.
https://www.twitch.tv/alexwice
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04-15-2021 , 12:12 AM
Gensler SEC confirmation is confirmation that the end of civilization as we know it is nigh. Few other than Shuffle will understand this.
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04-15-2021 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
Gensler on balance is definitely good for bitcoin/crypto.

taught MIT classes on bitcoin, and Hester Pierce has been talking a lot lately about the new direction the SEC can take with Gensler as head wrt to crypto. I dont think she would do so much press/PR talking about crypto if she wasn't confident that he would help her remove the barriers put up by the previous administrations.

But there are of course drawbacks because with increased oversight they will probably go in and also begin influencing and creating precedent in terms of regulation in other areas. I think as an overall gameplan over the next 4 years I'd expect some kind of combination of:

1/ btc etf
2/ binance sued, domain captured by DOJ/SEC (ftx gets a pass because Sam donated 13m to Joe Biden)
3/ congress will outlaw exchanges from allowing trading of purely privacy coins like zcash/xmr
4/ all use exchanges will force customers to make declarations that no economic or crypto activity was/is/will be related with privacy coins



from a strategic and overarching strategy I also think BTC vs ETH will become a proxy for west vs china for how crypto and digital currencies look in the next 10 years. USA and the west will make a calculated decision that ETH and to a lesser extent BTC will be net positive for competition vs China and retaining power. ETH and other public blockchains will 100% be used by govts to subvert and destabilize China long term.
Are you aware of privacy projects/chains like SCRT, HOPR, PHA? The privacy coin ship has sailed. Unenforceable laws are meaningless.

Good conjecture re CZ. That'd be nice. But wouldn't hold my breath. Crypto is supranational. It will obviate traditional government.

Also worth noting China is way ahead of the U.S. re crypto. Asian minds dominate the space. DOT is a ton of Chinese money. Vitalik Buterin met with Putin last year.

U.S. v China is already over. China is just waiting out the U.S.'s demise.

Last edited by ZodiacalRelease; 04-15-2021 at 01:59 AM.
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04-15-2021 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ZodiacalRelease
Are you aware of privacy projects/chains like SCRT, HOPR, PHA? The privacy coin ship has sailed. Unenforceable laws are meaningless.

Good conjecture re CZ. That'd be nice. But wouldn't hold my breath. Crypto is supranational. It will obviate traditional government.

Also worth noting China is way ahead of the U.S. re crypto. Asian minds dominate the space. DOT is a ton of Chinese money. Vitalik Buterin met with Putin last year.

U.S. v China is already over. China is just waiting out the U.S.'s demise.
To win what the reserve currency?
That will never happen , unless major shift would happen in China which is impossible in a near future .

I just don’t even know why develop countries still do business with them .
Trading without tariff with China and wanting inflation makes no sense ...
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04-15-2021 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
from a strategic and overarching strategy I also think BTC vs ETH will become a proxy for west vs china for how crypto and digital currencies look in the next 10 years. USA and the west will make a calculated decision that ETH and to a lesser extent BTC will be net positive for competition vs China and retaining power. ETH and other public blockchains will 100% be used by govts to subvert and destabilize China long term.
How do you see this playing out, and why do you think it will?
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04-15-2021 , 07:18 AM


If anyone wants to buy a crypto kitty, I am accepting offers.
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04-15-2021 , 07:30 AM
If you name one after me, I won't ban you.
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04-15-2021 , 07:41 AM
how much eth have you invested in purchasing and breeding them?

also, please name your next one "fiat cuck nurse"
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04-15-2021 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
how much eth have you invested in purchasing and breeding them?

also, please name your next one "fiat cuck nurse"
Unfortunately, 0.5ish Ether. I was kinda on cloud nine with crypto currency prices. Lol. Everything I touched turned to gold.



I compiled a bunch of data for the last 4 years on Bitcoin from https://bitinfocharts.com/ using a way back machine. Wanted to see if there was anything interesting with wealth distribution and other stuff over time.

@sheep86: Done, but I'm not going to post another pic, because I don't want to clutter the feed.
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04-15-2021 , 08:30 AM
So 50% of wallets have <70$ in them.

Kinda goes back to my point on the "90% of wallets in profit" thing. How many of those 50% had more, got rekt, then left .0001 bitcoin in their wallet and are now "in profit"?
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04-15-2021 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson


I compiled a bunch of data for the last 4 years on Bitcoin from https://bitinfocharts.com/ using a way back machine. Wanted to see if there was anything interesting with wealth distribution and other stuff over time.
Thanks for sharing this.

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Originally Posted by TheGodson
@sheep86: Done, but I'm not going to post another pic, because I don't want to clutter the feed.
That's okay, I feel honored regardless.
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04-15-2021 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by coordi
So 50% of wallets have <70$ in them.

Kinda goes back to my point on the "90% of wallets in profit" thing. How many of those 50% had more, got rekt, then left .0001 bitcoin in their wallet and are now "in profit"?
You don't even know the difference between an address and a wallet. Just gtfo already.
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04-15-2021 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CoolTimer
You don't even know the difference between an address and a wallet. Just gtfo already.
For someone who should be up generational wealth you sure are an angry ****

If you can't answer the question then just shut the **** up!
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