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Old 02-21-2019, 01:24 AM   #32176
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:28 AM   #32177
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It took one conversation with Toothsayer to realise he is a troll and talks nonsense.

https://www.ccn.com/samsung-galaxy-s...crypto-support

Samsung integrating a bitcoin wallet into its flagship device seems a solid step towards mass adoption to me.
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:29 AM   #32178
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The reasons aren't any different for the reasons why MySpace was king of the social address book space.

Similarly, the reasons why Bitcoin has a $69 billion market cap aren't that different from the reasons Ethereum and Ripple each individually had double bitcoin's current market cap, despite starting far later.

Ripple has none of what bitcoin has (the "good reasons" you allude to) yet was worth $120 billion.

If you're weren't one of the silliest people in this thread, that would make you stop and think. And agree with me that to first order bitcoin is a ponzi, and to second order a vehicle for illegal and gray market activity. Legitimate use barely rates.

Bitcoin is a ponzi with the biggest mindshare/highest current "legitimacy", the biggest illegal network (including illegal network on-ramp), and the biggest fiat -> bitcoin ecosystem. But these things are irrelevant for determining the final winner.

The final winner in the coin space will be determined by its ability to be used - low cost, fast, globally scalable transactions. Because use puts a bid under a coin while lack of it causes it to decline, and organic use growth will determine the winner.

I really hope you're 18. I'm embarrassed and sad for you otherwise. Your "extremely stupid" post logic was cringeworthy. I wipe the floor with you on all three of those traits.

Thread has been dead without me.

Meanwhile, Satoshi getting it said:

Right after monkeys fly out of my butt. Lightning network is ALREADY being used on Twitter for tipping. "Tip" of the iceberg. Sorry Craig - u lose.
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Old 02-21-2019, 02:38 AM   #32179
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Right after monkeys fly out of my butt. Lightning network is ALREADY being used on Twitter for tipping. "Tip" of the iceberg. Sorry Craig - u lose.
Lightning is a load of crap for about 10 different reasons, among them: unreliability, prohibitive cost if bitcoin ramps, funds tied up, can be attacked easily forcing expensive on-chains, not user friendly, etc.

Lightning does ok in a tiny test net of first adopters without motivated attackers for micropayments? Cool story bro. It's been doing that for years. Get back to me when this can scale to real money reliably*.

*Oh that's right, it can't, even theoretically. It maxes out way below even 1/10th of global level utilization.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:06 AM   #32180
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Your trolling is tedious at this point, please try harder than simply taking the extreme wrong of every debate and going in hard.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:18 AM   #32181
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I'm saying what I genuinely believe. Most experts agree with me on Lightning. You want some quotes? It's a huge basketload of fail with no future, although the Lightning developers certainly evangelize for it endlessly. Jesus man, if you're going to be invested in bitcoin, at least understand the enormous insurmountable flaws of the Lightning Network. Because without it (even with!) there's no scaling and with no scaling bitcoin core gets supplanted by something that can scale. It's that simple.
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:24 AM   #32182
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TS bsv is someone buying MySpace when Facebook is already popular and hoping that users will chose MySpace because you are spreading lies about other services.
Your analogies make no sense.
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:03 AM   #32183
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Most experts agree with me on Lightning. You want some quotes?
Would love some!
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Old 02-21-2019, 12:34 PM   #32184
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It took one conversation with Toothsayer to realise he is a troll and talks nonsense.

https://www.ccn.com/samsung-galaxy-s...crypto-support

Samsung integrating a bitcoin wallet into its flagship device seems a solid step towards mass adoption to me.
Which fool will use something with build in back door access.
Has crypto sunk so low, so quick?

Proper open source wallets available for a long time already.

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First ever here.

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Old 02-21-2019, 03:11 PM   #32185
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I agree with TS on some things.

Is hell freezing over?
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:55 PM   #32186
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I really hope you're 18. I'm embarrassed and sad for you otherwise. Your "extremely stupid" post logic was cringeworthy. I wipe the floor with you on all three of those traits.
My argument was : "Risking jail/huge legal trouble without any potential benefit is extremely stupid".

You CAN'T refute that. Even fishes understand and agree to this.

Why ? Cause this very logic is the one nature uses to make the fittest survive, in case you didn't get the memo.

I picked it up very carefully cause it's apolitical, not based on fact, and logically irrefutable.... - to anyone with a third of a brain.

As a consequence you had to revert to your usual labelling "cringeworthy", and other ad hominem. Nothing of the above is a valid rebutal. That's not how you win a debate, dum dum.


Ofc and sadly that's always what you end up doing when posting. You're litteraly incapable of making a true, informed and well constructed argument, wich again, is no surprise :

You're a broke troll who couldn't even afford to pay a 500$ bet lost in the most ridiculous way I've ever seen (placing one trade in one year, losing like 30$)

This is what cringeworthy is.

But it gets better :

Only the most stupid ppl around here buy your "world travelling trader story".
Talentend traders build companies, hedge funds, have ppl work for them and build algorithms that do HFT, ..... They don't miss opportunities cause they take a dump.

FFs You're not even capable of imagining a convincing lie ;
The life you invented for yourself on this forum sounds like it straight up comes from a bad 80's TV show. Trading on a desktop based on reading the WSJ every morning....

effing hilarious.

Congrats on being the very first addition to my ignore list, in 10 years.

Hoping you'll find a way out of the ****hole of a life you have... sincerely.
Knowing ppl like you waste their life is such a fashion makes me sad...

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Old 02-21-2019, 09:00 PM   #32187
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:35 PM   #32188
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^ Fascinating.

This posting style strongly mirrors the dominant 'voice' on bitcointalk:

-vaguely broken english

-unshakable confidence

-same approach to 'logic'

-underlying everything is the dream of BTC riches


I never know where this group comes from. Best explanation I can come up with is lower European/Eastern Europe young males that see no way out without the once in a life gains of being in early on BTC.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:07 PM   #32189
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case3, yeah.
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My argument was : "Risking jail/huge legal trouble without any potential benefit is extremely stupid".

You CAN'T refute that. Even fishes understand and agree to this.

Why ? Cause this very logic is the one nature uses to make the fittest survive, in case you didn't get the memo.

I picked it up very carefully cause it's apolitical, not based on fact, and logically irrefutable.... - to anyone with a third of a brain.
God, I'm laughing my ass off at you. You not only don't get it, you double down with even more ridiculous reasoning. It's like you just took a "logic for dummies" course and feel like Kant now.

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As a consequence you had to revert to your usual labelling "cringeworthy", and other ad hominem. Nothing of the above is a valid rebutal. That's not how you win a debate, dum dum.
There's nothing to win, "dum dum". You are so stupid and beneath not just me but everyone on this forum that your "logic" isn't even worth responding to, it's so juvenile and ridiculous. But for your sake: you assume two premises that aren't in evidence, and even generously given those your logic is a non sequitur (evidence of one very stupid act does nothing to prove lack of high intelligence, let alone a person having "extreme stupidity" as a quality; at best it shows a single act of impulsiveness/lack of caution).

And then to top it of for sheer mind-numbing stupidity, you throw in evolution above! Highly intelligent people frequently take all kinds of risk in violation of your "0.0001% chance, don't do!" rule, out of habit or tiredness or anger or thrill seeking or dominance or lots of other reasons. Irrational risk taking behavior is deep in the psyche, including of the intelligent. Yet 70 year old Trump is proven "extremely stupid" - by evolutionary reasons no less - because there was at least a 0.00001% chance he might end up in jail? All aboard the clown train, jj452 is giving logic lessons!

Do you understand now why your logic is like an 18 year who puts cologne on his balls? Your ignorance of philosophy, logic, the world, is absolutely comical.

The fact that you'd not only think this kind of logic is valid but be so socially and intellectually unaware as to say it shows what an absolute assclown you are.
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Ofc and sadly that's always what you end up doing when posting. You're litteraly incapable of making a true, informed and well constructed argument, wich again, is no surprise :

You're a broke troll who couldn't even afford to pay a 500$ bet lost in the most ridiculous way I've ever seen (placing one trade in one year, losing like 30$)
WTF are you talking about? The bet was paid out immediately and Brian posted it.
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This is what cringeworthy is.
But it gets better :

Only the most stupid ppl around here buy your "world travelling trader story".
Talentend traders build companies, hedge funds, have ppl work for them and build algorithms that do HFT, ..... They don't miss opportunities cause they take a dump.

FFs You're not even capable of imagining a convincing lie ;
The life you invented for yourself on this forum sounds like it straight up comes from a bad 80's TV show. Trading on a desktop based on reading the WSJ every morning....

effing hilarious.

Congrats on being the very first addition to my ignore list, in 10 years.

Hoping you'll find a way out of the ****hole of a life you have... sincerely.
Knowing ppl like you waste their life is such a fashion makes me sad...
Traveling and trading is an awesome life compared to most professional jobs including trader jobs, and pays more. It's awesome to see the world and I wouldn't trade it for a guaranteed $2 million/year. And this notion that I don't actually travel and trade is a weird one. I'm enjoying the carnivale in the French Riviera right now. Beats the crap out of a NY office. The rest of your post is a logical fallacy called "assuming your premise".

You're really butthurt bro and it's beautiful. It's really beautiful. I think at some deep level you actually sense how stupid your logic is and it enrages you. Anyway, thank you. It's not often I get to dunk on a truly comically inept tard (2p2 is fairly high quality as far as the Internet goes) who manages to be even less likable to the peanut gallery than Craig Wright, so thank you for that. My work here is done for a while.

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Old 02-21-2019, 11:57 PM   #32190
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Tooth, not at 3k yet
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:20 AM   #32191
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This forum needs a TS containment thread.
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:12 AM   #32192
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This forum needs a people attacking TS containment thread.
Agreed. We actually need an official low content thread like pretty much every other forum has. Redirect the conversation there.

There's plenty of content here though that you just don't like. Bitcoin's flaws, alternatives, the limitations of lightning network, are way better than the total bull**** spewed by people yelling HODL MOON at $18K and promising $100K by end of 2018 or that Lightning will actually be viable. Those guys actually lose people money.

I'm not sure you realize how important the thesis is that if bitcoin can't scale (and it can't), it is done long term and you should be looking for the next thing. I actually think Satoshi (Craig Wright) has the right idea on there being a single blockchain for all things - tracking, smart contracts, software, id, equities, etc. Because one can do it all and it makes zero sense to have multiple less secure blockchains. Bitcoin SV or similar actually makes sense economically using proof of work if it can perform the functions of contract and record keeping, equity tracking, id tracking, etc, in addition to currency and value storage.
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:50 AM   #32193
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TS you are fluent in bitcoin but that's about it.
Anyone following the subject knows that the bsv takeover failed and is irrelevant.
Bch was backed by Calvin Roger and bitmain. Bitmain is dieing from investing in the wrong chain and Calvin did even worse.
Your fantasy is that Wright is Satoshi and can deliver on anything when he never did.
We are still waiting for his deadly segwit bug. For him to kill btc by selling satoshi's stash, dropping the hammer with his thousand patents or any other nonsense.
The only thing that may happen is suing roger for abusing his customers during the hashwar.
Keep calling people illogical cucks While basing your whole argument on some scammer with a huge losing track record and 0 achievement Appart from fooling Calvin ayre.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:19 PM   #32194
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:26 PM   #32195
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:31 PM   #32196
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BTC should be around 30k-50 at end of 2020. It won't hit 100k until the next halving. Not sure where these finance guys pull their numbers from but BTC current trajectory is going exactly as projected back in 2013.
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:36 PM   #32197
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BTC should be around 30k-50 at end of 2020. It won't hit 100k until the next halving. Not sure where these finance guys pull their numbers from but BTC current trajectory is going exactly as projected back in 2013.
next halving is may 2020. so it's going to hit 100k and then drop to 30-50k by end of 2020?
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:38 PM   #32198
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Ironically, going down that evidence list is what made me think there's no other explanation for the evidence other than him being Satoshi.

If he's not, think of how incredibly stupid the lead bitcoin developer and the head of the bitcoin foundation must be to think he's Satoshi. Or how incredibly smart Craig Wright must be. Both of them:

- Asked him non-public questions that only they and Satoshi would know, were happy with the answers
- Repeatedly watched him sign a phrase of their choosing with various of the first 9 keys
- Probed his knowledge of cryptography and blockchain tech and were highly impressed

An extraordinarily talented conman if he can pull that off while knowing "nothing about cryptography/bitcoin/can't even code" as some of his detractors claim.
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:55 PM   #32199
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that evidence list is what made me think there's no other explanation for the evidence other than him being Satoshi

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Old 02-22-2019, 03:12 PM   #32200
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BTC should be around 30k-50 at end of 2020. It won't hit 100k until the next halving. Not sure where these finance guys pull their numbers from but BTC current trajectory is going exactly as projected back in 2013.
God bless your heart.
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