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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
TS your whole argument is Andresen vouched for him at some point, and that because you read Andressen was respected at some point you assume it was warranted and still valid
No, that is not my whole argument. For one, Andresen isn't the only figure that Satoshi showed proof to and that then went on the record saying they were convinced. Many were shown independently to their complete satisfaction.
Here's Jon Matonis, with a resume of founding Director at Bitcoin Foundation. CEO of Hushmail. Startup Team at RSA’s VeriSign. Chief Currency Dealer at VISA. As central in the bitcoin world as Andresen and not an idiot and highly technically competent. He
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My relationship with the individual known as Satoshi Nakamoto started in early March 2010 when I received an email from Satoshi pointing me to the published Bitcoin white paper and encouraging me to investigate the system and to begin promoting the network by transacting and mining. At the time, I managed a digital currency blog and this was an email relationship with some brief correspondence.
Then, on June 4th 2015 during a conference, I arranged to meet fellow Bitcoin advocate, Craig Steven Wright, for a cup of coffee at the top floor of the AMP headquarters building in Sydney, Australia. After discussing many technical and economic aspects of the current Bitcoin protocol debates, I returned to my hotel room after an exhausting day. I remember saying to my wife that I had this weird feeling of having just met Satoshi. Of course, I continued the dialogue with Craig in the months after returning from Sydney and leading up to a private proof session in late March 2016.
The reality of an extraordinary event is rarely what you imagine and I am now pleased to know the creator of the Bitcoin protocol and the author of the Bitcoin white paper, Craig Steven Wright.
And he was one of many core people who independently received proof and evidence on multiple levels that Wright was Satoshi:
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During the London proof sessions, I had the opportunity to review the relevant data along three distinct lines: cryptographic, social, and technical. Based on what I witnessed, it is my firm belief that Craig Steven Wright satisfies all three categories. For cryptographic proof in my presence, Craig signed and verified a message using the private key from block #1 newly-generated coins and from block #9 newly-generated coins (the first transaction to Hal Finney). The social evidence, including his unique personality, early emails that I received, and early drafts of the Bitcoin white paper, points to Craig as the creator. I also received satisfactory explanations to my questions about registering the bitcoin.org domain and the various time-of-day postings to the BitcoinTalk forum. Additionally, Craig’s technical working knowledge of public key cryptography, Bitcoin’s addressing system, and proof-of-work consensus in a distributed peer-to-peer environment is very strong.
According to me, the proof is conclusive and I have no doubt that Craig Steven Wright is the person behind the Bitcoin technology, Nakamoto consensus, and the Satoshi Nakamoto name.
So no, it's not "just Andresen".
For two, there are many dozens of pieces of evidence (documented
here) which together make zero sense if he is not Satoshi. The overwhelming pattern of in-depth evidence which has no other explanation is what makes him Satoshi. Andresen is just my foil to the faketoshi advocates who repeatedly lie.
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People are flawed and make bad decisions all the time, is it possible Andresen thought he would gain something from it, did he get blackmailed, was he careless...
For sure, on its own it's nowhere near conclusive, thought it's still strong.
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Many early day bitcoiner will end up with an awful reputation because people change and/or sometimes it requires time to figure them out.
Andresen was the highly respected lead developer. Satoshi basically passed him that baton. He's not just some random dude.
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You like to bully people into submission, but you took a really bad fight here. Wright has no credibility and a huge track record as a fraud who keep threatening with obvious bluffs. At best he is a bad patent troll.
Again, the evidence taken in totality does not suggest this. It appears that you guys simply cannot think and weigh evidence properly. I'm wiping the floor with you.
It's a fascinating thing to see lovers of bitcoin and Satoshi trash the actual, real Satoshi endlessly with vitriol. They wanted a messiah and they got a real person and their toddler brains can't handle the letdown.