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Originally Posted by protonewb
The last I'll say on this, you are delusional TS:
1) Gavin admitted he was probably duped - google it. The email account was already compromised years ago per the btctalk forums
And Craig Wright had the key? How does that happen? You agree that Craig Wright has Satoshi's private key, or do you dispute that too? Here's Gavin:
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gavinandresen
Gavin Andresen
2 years ago
Craig signed a message that I chose ("Gavin's favorite number is eleven. CSW" if I recall correctly) using the private key from block number 1.
That signature was copied on to a clean usb stick I brought with me to London, and then validated on a brand-new laptop with a freshly downloaded copy of electrum.
Could you please quote the post where he claims that Craight Wright is absolutely not Satoshi and is a fraud? Thank you. I assume you can't and are full of **** on Adresen disavowing. I'm sure he regrets his involvement, mostly because he got covered in **** after the backpeddle by Satoshi. Andresen then got ripped by a bunch of bitcoin chimpanzees who can't accept that someone like Craig Wright is the Messiah, but Andresen's regret is not the same thing as thinking he's not Satoshi. Indeed...
I'll also add that it's not just Andresen who was had a proof session. Multiple people with top level technical knowledge did and came away saying they know he's Satoshi. That's one hell of a fraud. I don't know if anyone alive could pull that off.
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2) The most obvious proof is signing something with the genesis block key - which craig cannot do. Everything else is handwaving bull****.
So if Satoshi loses the private keys, has them in a trust, does not want to sign for security reasons - he's not Satoshi? That's some pretty weak logic bro. There are multiple ways to prove he's Satoshi and he's done several of them. To the satisfaction of the highest players in the bitcoin ecosystem.
You don't find it even slightly compelling that Wright signed for Andresen as Andresen watched with block 1 keys?
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3) Several of the "papers" craig has submitted have been proven complete bull**** or plaigarized, and every single core dev also says he can't be satoshi.
After saying he was. After getting burned in the blowback. During a bitter fight for the direction of bitcoin in which Satoshi (Wright) wants to take Bitcoin in another direction
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Who understands the code better? Especially the nuances and even yes, errors, in the original satoshi code.
I completely agree. Hence why Andresen believes and said he is Satoshi.
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Craig was involved in btc early, sure, yes even very early. He also was nearly broke and in tax trouble and needed money (lol) before spinning his yarn about being satoshi and trying to get a book deal (cause satoshi needs money of course). He's a fraud with proven altered blog posts and emails and doesn't have the technical chops to be satoshi.
The latter seems a strange take. He certainly has the technical chops.
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Regardless of all this, he could prove beyond any doubt by signing something with the genesis block key. That is the _ONLY_ legit proof anyone can ever give. But he can't/won't, therefore is not satoshi.
This last bit isn't so much evidence and proof as you hating Craig and hating cognitive dissonance. You're not willing to lend credence on claims - even claims with overwhelming evidence such as Wright = Satoshi - without definitive proof. That seems a very weak epistemology, even if it has practical utility, particularly when the claimer is an *******.
Last edited by ToothSayer; 02-16-2019 at 10:52 PM.