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11-16-2017 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mori****a System
Maybe in Europe. In America, he just strikes me as one of those democrat blue dogs, squarely in the center left. He hails from Pennsylvania too, so it seems to fit to a tee.
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Now you're just baiting him. I am curious to see what he says about that description.
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11-16-2017 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dfgg
To be fair, his style of arguing was pretty irritating. If you tried arguing against him he would constantly twist your argument and create strawmen.
Isn't that SOP for both sides in Politics?
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11-16-2017 , 12:01 PM
Just curious, can you guys provide some examples on this website from insanity left? I only really stay in BFI.

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Isn't that SOP for both sides in Politics?
yeah 100%, I guess we need to make this forum invisible to anyone posting regularly in politics forum
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11-16-2017 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dfgg
Just curious, can you guys provide some examples on this website from insanity left? I only really stay in BFI.
Read the thread "The Future" especially after David Sklansky went to the politics forum to recruit politards to argue with the capitalists. Also Read the Health Care 2018 thread once politards show up and try to shift the discussion from general health care discussion to blame.
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11-16-2017 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jalexand42

How many posts if you remove nooseknot's pumping and TS' rebuttals? :P
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but the other thing guys is we mods dont always wade in all the threads, especially the mega threads like cypto, so we cant see everything that is going on. In those cases when someone has crossed the line of personal insults or attacks, just shoot one of us a PM
I Pm'd you with these and you never responded. These posts from Toothsayer are from ONE DAY, all directed at me, the first one calling me "worthless trash":

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Originally Posted by Toothsayer

You're worthless trash then and should be banned, your own stated preference is to not discuss anything at all.

I wanted to see if there's any substance there but he's just vacuous. No interest in actual discussion. Provides nothing of value. Doesn't understand the tech in any way. Given the ultra high zero content volume he's the kind of person we need to just ban and be done with it, or rate limit to 3 posts/day.

He's one of those guys who hangs around the edges of tech and is obsessed by it to the point of bothering the devs, but can't really understand it or contribute or see counterarguments. So he mass posts and retreats into his self-contained religion when the questions get even remotely difficult.

It's obvious to most at this point that Szabo is Jesus to you, this is your personal religion, such that questioning anything he says is heresy. You're a weird one dude,and a zero content troll.

What you are to do is provide arguments. Since you have proven yourself both incapable and unwilling, instead parroting like a weirdo "the experts agree with me", you're just a mindless troll
And these posts are the responses to a thread which is trying to get away from the silly conflict between whether bitcoin is legitimate or not. How is this constructive?

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Originally Posted by BooLoo
yeah... definitely what bfi needed, another bitcoin thread...
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Originally Posted by commas,are,funny
This seems like an economics question, did they just get rid of that forum?
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
They should replace the economics forum with a bitcoin forum. I'm guessing regular BFIers, which I am not, would be happier. Or mods can just start moving Bitcoin threads in the economics forum.
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Originally Posted by dfgg
Can we contain this crap all in like one cancerous crypto thread? Mods please?
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Originally Posted by BooLoo
so you want a circlejerk of "HODL" and "to the moon"? there's enough of that all over the internet.
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Originally Posted by de captain
You've made 22 posts per day about bitcoin since showing up here last month yet you don't realize this thread will become the same circle jerk.

It's been obvious from day 1 that you don't want a discussion given they way you treat anyone that doesn't whole heartedly agree w/ you.
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Originally Posted by de captain
We're well aware of the fact that you'd like everyone to take you at your word that bitcoin is flawless and will work perfectly. Unfortunately many people are unwilling to accept that premise. That's why we continue to discuss it.

Are you really unaware of the fact that your 521 zealous posts on the subject, combined with your absolute refusal to consider what anyone else here has to say on the subject, does nothing to further the topic?

What a shocking revelation to find out you only want to talk to people who agree with you WHOLEHEARTEDLY!
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Originally Posted by BooLoo
what the **** did i just read?

/talking about that post re venezuela, oil, whatever...
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Originally Posted by BoredSocial
Why hasn't everyone else blocked Nooseknot too? Everyone please stop quoting him. I don't particularly want to be reminded that some of you are still feeding the troll.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I wanted to see if there's any substance there but he's just vacuous. No interest in actual discussion. Provides nothing of value. Doesn't understand the tech in any way. Given the ultra high zero content volume he's the kind of person we need to just ban and be done with it, or rate limit to 3 posts/day.
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Originally Posted by BoredSocial
I block people liberally on 2p2. You would find what I see when I open a politics thread hilarious. I'll let you guess which ones I can actually see. Dvaut1 is free. After that it gets significantly harder lol.
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Originally Posted by nickjehz
I just went over this thread, how is this even a thread?!

Some ridiculous hypothetical and noose spreading some uneducated crap about the current economical circumstances.

Tip for noose, reading stuff and quoting it doesn't really work if you don't understand it.
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Originally Posted by nickjehz
Because we both see no merit in it.
Given you other posts/replies I don't really feel like putting in the effort as it will achieve nothing at all.
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Originally Posted by BooLoo
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but anyway:
i'm done here, you're a troll. +1 for banning this guy and his senseless bitcoin spam.
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Originally Posted by BooLoo
i claim that for the amount of posts you have in this sub-forum, you know surprisingly little about finance and investing. i thought the thread was kind of an interesting thought experiment and you wanted to know what people with more knowledge about central banks would say.

those people (not even counting myself here, but others) came here and made their case.

all you did was either not understand their arguments, and have them explain basic economics to you, or claim you knew more about everything.

which makes me think that other, respected, posters here were right in calling you a troll. so i will put you on my ignore list, like boredsocial recommended earlier...
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Originally Posted by nickjehz
See post above, I rest my case.
Can the mods delete this spam please? https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...ption-1695694/
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11-16-2017 , 04:09 PM
^This guy needs to be exiled. No worth + high volume = a waste of time. People give you the benefit of the doubt but that you keep asserting that you know the devs, that all the arguments are founded, that criticisms of crypto are illegitimate because they go against founded arguments. All the while saying NOTHING of substance. No insights, no arguments (you seem terrified of actually putting forward a logical case for something), nothing at all but gibberish.

You just made the case for your own exile from crypto threads. You just quoted 7 long time BFI posters who think you have nothing worthwhile to say.

I'll again make you the offer that I'll stop posting on crypto here for good, if you will.
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11-16-2017 , 04:11 PM
Exiling nooseknot would be terrible. It would be like the silver thread without silverman2.
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11-16-2017 , 04:21 PM
Silverman2 put forth actual rational arguments, if slightly flawed.
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11-16-2017 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
^This guy needs to be exiled. No worth + high volume = a waste of time. People give you the benefit of the doubt but that you keep asserting that you know the devs, that all the arguments are founded, that criticisms of crypto are illegitimate because they go against founded arguments. All the while saying NOTHING of substance. No insights, no arguments (you seem terrified of actually putting forward a logical case for something), nothing at all but gibberish.

You just made the case for your own exile from crypto threads. You just quoted 7 long time BFI posters who think you have nothing worthwhile to say.

I'll again make you the offer that I'll stop posting on crypto here for good, if you will.
Yup, I agree. I actually at first thought he might have something interesting to discuss but he's backed down from answering the tough, interesting questions.
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11-16-2017 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
Can the mods delete this spam please? https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...ption-1695694/
Noose,

Do you know what spam is? None of those posts are spam. A good example of spam was when you showed up here out of the blue and immediately began posting links to your blog and your Twitter acct.. When someone new shows up and begins self promoting themselves it's spam. People disagreeing with you isn't spam.

I'm also a big fan of how you've shown up and tried to self appoint yourself as the arbiter of who should be allowed to post in certain threads.
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11-16-2017 , 04:39 PM
@noose I'd recommend taking some of that bitcoin money that you must be literally drowning in, and go find a hobby that doesn't involve posting on 2p2 all day
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11-16-2017 , 04:43 PM
Is astro turfing really that lucrative?
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11-16-2017 , 05:02 PM
Tooth, you actually read through most of his posts? I stopped reading and put him on ignore after like 10 posts.

There should be an autoban feature, if at least 8 posters with more than 2-300 posts put you on ignore you are auto banned.
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11-16-2017 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
Is astro turfing really that lucrative?
I just assumed the biggest bitcoin fanatic in the universe has been in since day one and had already invested their entire net worth 3x over. I wouldn't be surprised if he only owned like 1.3 bitcoin though
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11-16-2017 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
I just assumed the biggest bitcoin fanatic in the universe has been in since day one and had already invested their entire net worth 3x over. I wouldn't be surprised if he only owned like 1.3 bitcoin though
well, when you think it's going to infinity, does it matter how much you own?
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11-16-2017 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer

I'll again make you the offer that I'll stop posting on crypto here for good, if you will.
Deal, we both now longer post in crypto. It's for BFI tho, I need to be able to ask questions about the ico's and participate in the decentralized poker thread.

We're done here in the cryptro threads, and in fact I'll retire from BFI entirely as per your deal.
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11-16-2017 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mori****a System

Cicakman is a travesty too. That guy was printing lottery tickets.
I kick myself daily for not buying Drive Shack when he posted it in the 2s. Especially since I researched it a bit and believed the bull case. Have been waiting for a dip to get in while it keeps hockeysticking. If we can vote to bring him back I'm in favor...
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11-17-2017 , 03:54 AM
Add me to the list that thinks noose should be banned.

Last edited by Shoe; 11-17-2017 at 04:05 AM.
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11-17-2017 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
I Pm'd you with these and you never responded.
you posted this 24 hrs after you PMed me. I do have a full time job you know. Sometimes it does take me some time to get to stuff.
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11-18-2017 , 03:01 PM
In regards to noose I answered his PM that the conversation in that thread was 2 sided and thus both sides are to blame. Dont dish it if you cant take it.

hope that help clears up my modding philosophy.
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11-20-2017 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DoctorZangief
500+ posts in a month on 1 topic.

QF whenever I talk to anyone who's really into bitcoin.

I started to read and now i'm just gonna grunch:

The community is already reasonably small, and I don't think the majority of people take offense to any of the abrasive personalities. Banning active posters who are contributing is a real -EV move, my opinion is relax on the moderating a bit, we're doing just fine without heavy handed rulings.
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12-10-2017 , 10:03 AM
Let's get a crypto sub. I takes up > 50% of BFI posting
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01-09-2018 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Let's get a crypto sub. I takes up > 50% of BFI posting
Agree - forcing all discussion into 3 threads <<< creating a BFI crypto sub forum.
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01-10-2018 , 06:34 AM
+1
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01-10-2018 , 06:58 AM
Just need to make sure it is strongly modded. Don't let it turn into Reddit-levels of discussion
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