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05-24-2020 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::


He called that TLRY short tho!
Larry, can we please temp ban this idiot already? He's not gonna stop and your inability to mod this idiocy has only encouraged it and subjected this forum to weeks of this bullshit across multiple threads - each initiated by grim. What are you here for if not stopping this. He's still posting his off topic nonsense here AFTER the forum made a containment thread and you moved his previous nonsense.

Grim,
This was for the 2020 trading contest (end of year), I posted it in the wrong thread accidentally. Clue is in the actual text you quoted ("it should be fine because it's 1% against me" - i.e. a late entry on January 1st). You know this because it had previously been discussed, and you are lying again. It's literally four posts below:

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Posted this in the wrong thread. That was for the 2020 stock contest, not a trading recommendation.
Grim needs to eat a 24 hour ban at this point to discourage this nonsense. Deliberately lying, completely off topic, constantly obsessed. Dude needs a break just for his mental health.
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05-24-2020 , 07:41 PM
Ban me? Why aren't we banning Tooth? He's already banned and came here with a new handle shown here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...3&postcount=23

What people have to say about him:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...0&postcount=20

Recent lie ("but I have two IB accounts!"):
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...7&postcount=13

And the Brian bet thread, which is self explanatory. I would even look into that. People bet money on him based on his "95% to win" statements. He even said he toward the end of the year he was making full effort to win and would be "98%" in a given year.

And endless backtracking/hedging.
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05-24-2020 , 07:59 PM
Please shut down bfi. Just make it stop.
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05-24-2020 , 08:01 PM
Mods,
Grim is still tarding up the 2020 trading thread, AFTER the forum made a containment thread for his spew, AFTER his other posts were moved here. He can't get the hint:
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::


He called that TLRY short tho!
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Ban me? Why aren't we banning Tooth? He's already banned and came here with a new handle shown here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...3&postcount=23

What people have to say about him:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...0&postcount=20

Recent lie ("but I have two IB accounts!"):
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...7&postcount=13

And the Brian bet thread, which is self explanatory. I would even look into that. People bet money on him based on his "95% to win" statements. He even said he toward the end of the year he was making full effort to win and would be "98%" in a given year.

And endless backtracking/hedging.
He's initiating endless off topic spew in some kind of crazy stalker crusade. I'm not starting any of this - it's him over and over again. If I ignore him he just keeps going, the guy is fully obsessed at this point, has no self control, and doesn't care about what threads he shits in. There's not even a nod to actual content.

What the hell are you doing letting this BS continue, Larry? He has this thread but chooses to keep shitting in other content threads, and you do nothing.

A lot of the good posters on 2p2, include some solid HSNL guys, have thanked me for all the money I've made them, with fantastic analysis. I can privately show you the PMs. I've probably made some of you money as well with impeccable analysis.

Mods, what the hell are you doing? This isn't OOT, this is a content forum, and 10+ posters have called grim out to stop, calling him an embarrassing obsessed stalker, and he keeps going. This should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago with escalating bans.

I could spend time making people money/offering good analysis instead. Instead you guys want this bullshit. Your choice.
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05-24-2020 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Who are these guys:

ToothSayer
TruthSayer
ToothSlayer
ToothSoother
SoothSayer
TruthTeller
TruthSeeker

These aren't any of your accounts (banned or otherwise)? Sleazy ToothSayer creating another freeroll for himself. Dude, we all know you'll never leave. This is literally all you do with your life (what a waste of human life tbh). I offered you a generous bet based on our differing calls on the S&P, and you're backing out like a total coward. Or just admit you were an total idiot making bad calls, and we can move on.
mostly just a lurker in these forums...

but you have grown very tiresome.

please to stop.
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05-24-2020 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Mods,
Grim is still tarding up the 2020 trading thread, AFTER the forum made a containment thread for his spew, AFTER his other posts were moved here. He can't get the hint:



He's initiating endless off topic spew in some kind of crazy stalker crusade. I'm not starting any of this - it's him over and over again. If I ignore him he just keeps going, the guy is fully obsessed at this point, has no self control, and doesn't care about what threads he shits in. There's not even a nod to actual content.

What the hell are you doing letting this BS continue, Larry? He has this thread but chooses to keep shitting in other content threads, and you do nothing.

A lot of the good posters on 2p2, include some solid HSNL guys, have thanked me for all the money I've made them, with fantastic analysis. I can privately show you the PMs. I've probably made some of you money as well with impeccable analysis.

Mods, what the hell are you doing? This isn't OOT, this is a content forum, and 10+ posters have called grim out to stop, calling him an embarrassing obsessed stalker, and he keeps going. This should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago with escalating bans.

I could spend time making people money/offering good analysis instead. Instead you guys want this bullshit. Your choice.
i agree with this, but just ignore that tool.
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05-24-2020 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by thethrill009
Please shut down bfi. Just make it stop.
PLEASE ban Truth....he has been banned on every other forum on this site and has absolutely destroyed BFI

BBB
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05-24-2020 , 08:33 PM
I don't want anyone banned. Anyone who is willing to have a good faith conversation should be allowed to post. I've had interactions with both guys that are in good faith.

The ones who should be banned are the ***** that come here from the politics forum because they haven't pointed out someone's racism in the last 36 hours.

Keep the beef confined and I don't see the problem. Both agree not to **** up other threads with it.
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05-24-2020 , 08:45 PM
Sounds about right.
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05-24-2020 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Tooth caught lying. Credit goes to ASAP, but he's not interested in posting here anymore. Mods, seriously wtf, ban Tooth.

From 9/26/2019:


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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Tooth caught lying about his results here:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=6086
Lol, tooth rekt by one of his trading/intellectual superiors. You should call him Mr. Asap or Daddy from now on.
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05-24-2020 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by despacito
A thread for airing personal grievances about other posters, so other threads can stay respectful, on topic, and focused on logic and the merits of arguments.
This is a great idea, but (assuming posters will comply by only posting beefs here) I fear that it will be the only thread in BFI with any posts.
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05-24-2020 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jacksquat
mostly just a lurker in these forums...

but you have grown very tiresome.

please to stop.
He's not going to stop, dude is fully obsessed.
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Originally Posted by jacksquat
i agree with this, but just ignore that tool.
It doesn't help, grim is fully obsessed. Since the mods won't do their job reigning in an obsessed low content stalker shitting on multiple content threads with 10+ people asking him to stop, who keeps it going on ruining content threads even after this containment thread, I'll just take a few weeks off. The forum is begging for his spew to stop (and he's not), mods refuse to do anything, and I have better things to do than deal with an idiot on this level.

Get ready to get short or hedged (or do already if you have a longer term horizon and don't mind a little move against). The economy is sadly going to get very ugly before the end of the year, and take the market down with it. I don't know when it will start but we're going back well through lows this year. Wish it wasn't so, but it's as certain as corona was to me. The damage has already been done and just needs to propagate over time.
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05-24-2020 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
This is a great idea, but (assuming posters will comply by only posting beefs here) I fear that it will be the only thread in BFI with any posts.
We'll always have Tesla and Bitcoin.



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Originally Posted by jacksquat
i agree with this, but just ignore that tool.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
He's not going to stop...
You can't know this unless you try.
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05-25-2020 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
This was for the 2020 trading contest (end of year)
You don't think it's funny your list included literally the worst stocks to short? Half of those have rallied 20-100% and ripped through ATH despite your corona wetdream. Have a sense of humor. But I get it. Another freeroll. If you're proven awfully wrong, "it was just a stock picking bet". If you're right, "I called it!!"
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05-25-2020 , 04:18 AM
I'm not on anyone's side here, but I'm genuinely interested in those 1000s of dollars for charity TS. Let's see those screenshots match up to your posts. It should be trivial for you to do since you made and saved so many posters here large sums of money.
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05-25-2020 , 05:44 AM
Mods ban Tooth/Truth! He makes BFI unreadable
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05-25-2020 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
Mods ban Tooth/Truth! He makes BFI unreadable
No he doesn’t. TS is obviously willing to debate posters in this containment thread. As far as “told ya” accusations who the **** cares. If TS wants to “debate” regarding a take you have you have the option to pass. You have the ignore function available. If you want to completely ignore all TS posts there is JavaScript script you can run. Don’t have the url handy, the search option on this site is your friend.
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05-25-2020 , 05:09 PM
Something like 2 years ago, just before I put TS on my ignore list, I said TS is the type that HR has constant discussions about. I said something along the lines that he's productive if managed correctly and, by implication, heavily. I even called him a potentially a net positive, by implication, if managed heavily and correctly.

The mods apparently don't have the energy or inclination to make moderating TS their full time job. This is quite understandable.

Since moderating TS isn't an option, the mods should just ban him and ban him again when he makes another account. He makes every thread he touches unreadable (at least to apparently everyone that has traded serious money professionally, myself included) and has chased away real traders that used to contribute thoughtful content. He just sucks all the air out of the room and gives nothing but toxic gas in return.
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05-28-2020 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
You don't think it's funny your list included literally the worst stocks to short? Half of those have rallied 20-100% and ripped through ATH despite your corona wetdream.
You mean because of corona, not in spite of corona? Tech usage soars in global lockdown, making it the only safe haven. Amazon is the only retail not hit. Etc. Words, what do they mean?

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Have a sense of humor.
Yeah man, you're a comedian now. You tarding up content threads because you have such a fragile ego that you're now obsessed with me is funny, but not in the way you think.

The reason you tard up content threads is because I own you in a 1 to 1, but I have the manners not to respond in content threads because, unlike you, I actually respect this forum enough to want to avoid messing up content threads. You're just so gone in the head with obsession you're happy to crap all over content threads to further your obsession. Says it all about you.
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But I get it. Another freeroll. If you're proven awfully wrong, "it was just a stock picking bet". If you're right, "I called it!!"
If you had a sense of humor yourself you wouldn't be obsessed. It's literally a fun stock picking contest. On Jan 1 2020 we pick 10 stocks for Jan 1 2021. You lack such a sense of a humor and basic perspective that you quote it part way through as evidence of something. It's...weird?
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05-28-2020 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
You mean because of corona, not in spite of corona? Tech usage soars in global lockdown, making it the only safe haven. Amazon is the only retail not hit. Etc. Words, what do they mean?
I don't recall there being a pandemic in 2017, 2018 or 2019.

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
The reason you tard up content threads is because I own you in a 1 to 1
I'm getting owned? LOL. I take it back, you do have a sense of humor. It's okay to cry sometimes Tooth. Not wasting much more time here talking to a child:


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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
I'm not saying we're going straight to ATHs, but ending the year at 15-20% (2700-2900) off of ATH's doesn't sound unreasonable by any stretch.
The notion that 15-20% off ATH prices that in is really, really silly. Maybe -40% does, probably closer to -70%.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I voted <2600, but it was a tough call.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I said it was time to sell your longs at 2900, with this Calfornia news it's time to get short at 2840. 3 more months of stay-at-home shutdown in the US's largest economy is going to hit the hopium morons right in the feels.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
N6 S&P back to ATH : 2027 with the caveat that the fed doesn't go wild with injection/inflation.
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05-28-2020 , 06:26 PM
Mods? No comment on Tooth's ban? If you're going to lurk, then so will I. Again:

He's already banned and came here with a new handle shown here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...3&postcount=23

What people have to say about him:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...0&postcount=20

Recent lie ("but I have two IB accounts!"):
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...7&postcount=13

And the Brian bet thread:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...p-bet-1700664/

"I'm 95% to win this.... I now know I'm 98% to win in a given year"

"I would've won if I wasn't the jacuzzi with hot girls bro"

"I would've won if I wasn't having sex on FOMC day bro"

"I would've won if I wasn't such a nice guy toward Brian"
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05-28-2020 , 10:06 PM
The only lies are yours. I'm enjoying that your mentally ill obsession is continuing with me though. As long as you keep it out of content threads (have you finally learned that after 10+ people telling you to STFU/calling you a crazy stalker and mods having to move your obsessed posts out of content threads?), there's no harm.
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05-29-2020 , 02:21 AM
Still waiting on those screenshots TS. A few k to charity would be nice.
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05-29-2020 , 10:59 AM
Bringing this discussion here:
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
I failed to see it causing US lockdowns, yes. And so did you and most of the forum.
de captain also schooled you on this (after which you abused him as you do), but the above is hard proof of what a complete moron you are. Half this forum called US lockdowns (in all countries, actually) because of the simple logic that this is spreading silently and uncontained, that millions will be dead if each country if they don't lock down, hospitals will overflow, so they will have no choice.

That you were too incredibly stupid to follow this logic, so deep into permabull madness that you missed it, isn't our fault, it's your glaring cognitive failings, sir. Here's just 2 posts of 10+ explaining exactly this reasoning at market all time highs:

Feb 16:
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Pandemic looks inevitable now....
I do think extreme efforts will be taken to contain this in Western countries (hurting economies, but probably saving millions of lives) but lots of countries won't contain it because they're incompetent and poor, and it's here for good now until a vaccine comes out in 3-12 months.
Feb 23:
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
The market completely and complacently and stupidly has discounted the economic impacts that are already happening and will happen regardless of whether it's contained now. The case was always pretty simple and has nothing to do with deaths: it either goes uncontained through a good chunk of the human race, causing millions of deaths, overflowing hospitals, and this causing economic disruption, OR extreme lockdown measures (like Wuhan and China broadly) manage to contain the deaths but cause meaningful economic disruption and harm corporate profits a lot.

Either way there will be meaningful economics that cause a recession in some countries and global economic output and spending to drop enough to really hurt corporate profits.
I called exactly what happened using impeccable reasoning from data analysis. Both bulls and bears here saw this coming. You didn't, and your ego is so incredibly, comically fragile (or analytical ability and reading comprehension so incredibly low), that you've claimed 10+ times that "no one saw this coming". It's really sad and is making you look like an idiot, and also making it obvious that no one should listen to a word you say if you get something so obvious repeatedly wrong over and over.

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Unless you or anyone has a post from the 1st week of March or earlier saying "This will lead to lockdowns specifically in the US (not global)", then I'm not buying any of your hindsight analysis bullshit.
I see a Venn diagram is needed for the stupid:



The logic was the same for every single country, if you had the tiny bit of intelligence to follow it and not lose your shirt as a permabull: It's spreading uncontained throughout the world, it will be a pandemic, and countries either have to choose millions of dead or lockdown. Given that the former is unacceptable in Western countries, they will lock down. That it will come to the US and have the same effect (see: Venn Diagram and logic above) is so obvious that it doesn't even need to be said. But you are so utterly ******ed, your ego so fragile, that you can't handle that half this forum called it while you " hurr durr why is the market dropping?? I better buy some more" and lost your shirt. Now on the way back up - permabull the whole time - you're crowing on a retail rip while covering your incompetence on the way down by saying "no one saw this coming". It is so pathetic and stupid. A comically inept combination of a massive ego and a low IQ.

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I love constructive discussions, but honestly, you're just obnoxious. You're an under-unemployed kid that donks arounds with SPY puts. You talk such big game despite being so overwhelmingly wrong about your short calls at the bottom.
I made no short calls at the bottom. I frequently said all the way down that large fiscal stimulus would likely calm and rip the market and then it would be happy to wait for reopening. I was a bear from ~2550 to ~2770. I was a bull 2200-2500 and most of 2770-now. You were bull from 3400 to 3100 to 2800 to 2200, then bull on the way up as well. That's called a "permabull". Now you're crowing on the latter part.

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And then you try to backtrack to cover it all up. I'm really busy and frankly can't waste this much time on you.
Good, no one needs your idiotic analysis and fragile ego. I actually make people money, you lose them money. I have multiple PMs from very well regarded posters and HSNL players thanking me for the money I saved/made them and asking me to stay here.
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Please spare us the wall-of-text backtracking. And get a job.
I have a job - working for myself trading. You work for other people writing trading software. That you call that gainfully employed is hilarious - you're not curing cancer or bringing people food, you're helping douchebags like me who can trade make more money while you take care of their software. Why don't you get a real job? You're me except someone else collects the money other than you.

I'm sorry you have to sell your labor to help others make money because you can't trade - but hey, that's why there's a market. Couldn't have 10 bagged the drop if people like you saw it coming.

Last edited by ToothSayer; 05-29-2020 at 11:05 AM.
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05-29-2020 , 03:27 PM
I feel so offended when bums insult me!

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I have a job - working for myself trading.


I'd be mad too:

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
I'm not saying we're going straight to ATHs, but ending the year at 15-20% (2700-2900) off of ATH's doesn't sound unreasonable by any stretch.
The notion that 15-20% off ATH prices that in is really, really silly. Maybe -40% does, probably closer to -70%.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I voted <2600, but it was a tough call.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I said it was time to sell your longs at 2900, with this Calfornia news it's time to get short at 2840. 3 more months of stay-at-home shutdown in the US's largest economy is going to hit the hopium morons right in the feels.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
N6 S&P back to ATH : 2027 with the caveat that the fed doesn't go wild with injection/inflation.
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