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03-09-2015 , 11:41 PM
I'm not too far removed from being a student still that I would have zero interest in the new macbook.

No USB drive capability without an adapter? Not everyone wants everything in the cloud.
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03-09-2015 , 11:57 PM
it gets even better. Even if you brought an adapter... that adapter would have to be connected to the power adapter for you to charge the laptop and use some USB peripheral at the same time, even if you had an USB-C peripheral.

USB peripherals like... iPhones.
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03-10-2015 , 12:18 AM
I tend to agree with the sentiment, but Apple has a long history of forcing newer, better technology on people. And to be fair they've hit way more than they've missed.

“A lot of times, people don’t know what they want until you show it to them.” - Steve Jobs
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03-10-2015 , 02:40 AM
Apple is going to have to create the ecosystem around USB-C itself.

Starting with $30 dollar USB-C cables for iPhones... and perhaps a retina display supporting USB-C.
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03-10-2015 , 01:50 PM
I think you are forgetting that it comes in gold.
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03-10-2015 , 02:16 PM
My girlfriend isn't letting me forget. Pretty sure I there will be one in my apartment on April 10th.
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07-01-2015 , 06:22 PM
Apple Music pretty much just rendered Spotify irrelevant overnight. Spotify will get rushed to IPO (they basically have a 3 months window with them now offering 3 months trial for 0.99 to convert some free users to premium)

It's still not up to Steve Jobs' standards but Apple Music interface is already superior to what Spotify offers.

Pros:
Bigger library (including some international songs)
Better radio (Spotify radio basically a playlist associated with a song, never anything new)
Videos built in (I watched a couple music videos while browsing)
Better looking interface (background and so on)
ESPN radio access built in (probably more too, but this I care about)
iTunes interface and content obviously not after thoughts. A lot of money (from content providers too) and time have been invested. The experience is honestly just... better.

Con:
Interface, though already comparable to Spotify (arguably better) isn't up to Steve Jobs' standards (and honestly, none of Apple's new products has been)
Noticeably slower, with obvious buffering time when I first start a song. I suspect this will be sorted out soon enough.

PS: I was walking down the spiral stairs of the flagship Apple store on 5th Avenue in NYC last week. The place was totally packed except around the Apple Watch tables.

Last edited by grizy; 07-01-2015 at 06:28 PM.
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07-02-2015 , 08:16 AM
Interesting, because the only thing I care about from your list of either pros or cons is the 2nd con.
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07-04-2015 , 07:06 AM
I think Apple Music will crush it and I'm surprised it took so long, though I know they were negotiating with labels for a long time.

The videos and other stuff are nice plusses. I'm pretty vested in owning my digital music library so the streaming catalog doesn't hold that much appeal to me by itself. But pair that with some extra features that tie in and that could go a long way.
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07-04-2015 , 08:51 AM
Apple Music is tied into iTunes and comes with iCloud storage. The $9.99 a month includes cloud access to your music library.

Pretty cool I think.
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07-05-2015 , 08:26 AM
I much prefer the Spotify interface (yeah, I'm more used to it) and also a bunch of user-made playlists on Spotify. I couldn't find anything like those on Apple Music, the only playlists that looked interesting seemed to be ~10-15 songs. Maybe in a few weeks there will be more. Also Taylor Swift.
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07-07-2015 , 07:05 AM
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I much prefer the Spotify interface (yeah, I'm more used to it) and also a bunch of user-made playlists on Spotify.
Same here. But moving the playlist should soon be pretty easy. There are already tools that do this, but they are not as polished as they could be and likely will be in a few weeks:
https://github.com/simonschellaert/spotify2am
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07-08-2015 , 08:30 AM
I'll probably give Apple Music a try when it's on Android (Spotify Premium user currently) but I just don't want to have to open iTunes!

Also I'm thinking about giving purchased music another chance since I don't feel I listen to enough different music to justify the $120 a year.

From a pure business standpoint though, I don't see Apple getting lots of Spotify's business from anyone who doesn't have an iPhone. I'm not saying they won't get a few, but I don't see the lions share of Spotify's Android users (and definitely not Google Music users) switching over to Apple Music. I won't be surprised to see Apple lock down 2nd in the music streaming wars.

Last edited by Malfoy; 07-08-2015 at 08:37 AM.
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07-08-2015 , 09:08 AM
I will be very surprised if Apple isn't No. 1 by the end of August. By the time the 3 months trial is over and before Android version is out, Apple is going to be rocking more paying subscribers than rest of the streaming industry combined.
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07-08-2015 , 09:12 AM
Why? What does AM do better than any of the others? FWIW I don't really understand what ANY of them do better than any of the others. All of the radios are <<<<< Pandora, and they all have ~infinite on demand music. K.

I chose GPM>Spot only because Spot doesn't work on my work computer.
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07-08-2015 , 09:22 AM
Bigger library, more features, more support from artists (video contents and curated playlists take time). Those are legit advantages Apple Music already does better than competitors.

Now that non-product advantage:
Preinstalled on, by now, 200 million iPhones.
Most of which already has credit card info on file.
15 million paying customers inherited from Beats 1.

It's clear that Apple Music is not a half hearted attempt like Radio or Match; it's the culmination of at least 2 years of development, contract negotiations, and billions of dollars of investment.
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07-08-2015 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
Bigger library, more features, more support from artists (video contents and curated playlists take time). Those are legit advantages Apple Music already does better than competitors.

Now that non-product advantage:
Preinstalled on, by now, 200 million iPhones.
Most of which already has credit card info on file.
15 million paying customers inherited from Beats 1.

It's clear that Apple Music is not a half hearted attempt like Radio or Match; it's the culmination of at least 2 years of development, contract negotiations, and billions of dollars of investment.
You really haven't said anything legitimate imo, and the bigger library thing is completely false. Preinstalled? That clearly only comes into play if all else is equal.

I do agree they'll be a huge player, but 99% of my belief there is mostly to do with "because Apple."
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07-08-2015 , 11:24 AM
I don't expect Apple to grab tons of Android & Spotify users but I think they'll end up getting a huge % of Apple users (because Apple users are much heavier users than Android users) and that will be more than enough to beat Spotify.

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07-08-2015 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GEAUX UL
I don't expect Apple to grab tons of Android & Spotify users but I think they'll end up getting a huge % of Apple users (because Apple users are much heavier users than Android users) and that will be more than enough to beat Spotify.
This IMO, the ecosystem advantage has to be a big plus for apple music moving forwards. Ppl are lazy...
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01-05-2016 , 02:25 AM
Google recently moved into the MVNO space with Project Fi. They are not marketing it heavily, but I switched to it and think it's pretty great given the price. Apple could do something similar. Having a phone that bounces between home wifi and data plans to save money seems like a great idea. Also having a phone that can bounce between cell networks expanding coverage is pretty nice too. If Apple were to move in this direction I could see a LOT of iphone users quickly signing up for a $40/mon (or maybe $60-70 including the phone) plan directly from Apple. This could double Apple's north american revenues. Any rumors that they are looking into this? Would it violate carrier agreements already in place?
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01-06-2016 , 04:41 PM
how low will it go?
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01-27-2016 , 12:24 AM
Down over 2% in extended hours. Should be interesting to see how everyone reacts to the earnings call and quarterly information.
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01-27-2016 , 12:55 AM
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see a sell-off of ~10% over the next few weeks, and potentially more. Over the short term, there's really no reason to be bullish on the stock. They said on their call today that they're anticipating a weak quarter, the macro outlook is bad, they don't have any products to really be excited about or other short term positive catalysts.
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01-27-2016 , 04:52 PM
Record revenue, record profit, 40% margin, stock is down 6%. Sure outlook might not be same insane numbers, but sometimes I wonder if their stock shouldn't be worth its current price if they just liquidated all their capital.
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09-09-2016 , 09:49 PM
The dual lens is... underwhelming. It's not a true telephoto lens and digital zoom is a joke (cropping in Photoshop gives you same result). I really thought they were going to take two pictures and stitch them together for better image quality. Instead it's just a lens dedicated to a optical zoom. The lens isn't even good. It has narrow field of view and ****ty light exposure.

Two regular lenses with software zoom would yield better results for vast majority of pictures.
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