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10-06-2010 , 09:01 AM
Fishing? Not expensive and maybe one of the things men love to do the most.

Other than ****ing, of course.
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10-06-2010 , 03:53 PM
I have zero interest in fishing but don't some of the best fishing areas require that you be flown in? I've also seen the prices for some of these fishing lodges resorts and they are not cheap. Likewise any kind of boat above 10-12 feet is a huge money drain.
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10-06-2010 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
That is just as bad. Getting into a work -- come home -- do nothing cycle which I agree is common is also a waste of life.
So what is it in life you think is worth doing? How is making 13,000 posts on 2+2 not even more of a waste of life than the things you listed.
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10-06-2010 , 04:15 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility

ever hear of this Henry17?
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10-06-2010 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
I have zero interest in fishing but don't some of the best fishing areas require that you be flown in? I've also seen the prices for some of these fishing lodges resorts and they are not cheap. Likewise any kind of boat above 10-12 feet is a huge money drain.
Hunting/Fishing/Outdoors have a wide range of costs. The people who talk about fishing being cheap aren't going to the Gulf on a huge boat chasing Marlin.
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10-06-2010 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
I have zero interest in fishing but don't some of the best fishing areas require that you be flown in? I've also seen the prices for some of these fishing lodges resorts and they are not cheap. Likewise any kind of boat above 10-12 feet is a huge money drain.
Fishing can be a hugh money drain. One lure costs $5. Then a license. Then traveling costs, boat rentals, and motel rooms. The fish you catch will end up costing you $100 a lb. However, you can go to a local pier, with no license (California) and fish with a $10 pole and talk to all the girls looking at your fish.
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10-06-2010 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by andr3w321
So what is it in life you think is worth doing?
It is much easier to rule stuff out than make a list since a list would be individual specific. I personally have no interest in fishing or playing basketball but I see them as perfectly fine activities. The only things I'm categorizing as a waste of life are passive / voyeuristic / escapism based activities -- basically excessive watching of TV, movies, or video games.

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How is making 13,000 posts on 2+2 not even more of a waste of life than the things you listed.
If someone posts on the internet while they are doing something else that requires that they be at the computer but does not require 100% of their attention then I see nothing wrong with it. The same would be true of people who have jobs that require they be online who have time to kill. That is different than actually choosing to post as a primary activity which I would see as a bad use of time but still better than TV, movies, or video games by a decent amount.
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10-06-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Watching movies is passive and a waste of life.
watching movies are enjoyable. They make you laugh, cry, change your perspective etc. Stories have been around forever. If you watch a very high frequency of movies I agree then it becomes a waste of life. Haven't you ever been on a patio talking about Iron Man 2 or whatever?

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Most people have no musical ability.
People can develop their musical ability. That is why they practice. Even if at the end they cannot play Little Wing it can still be incredibly rewarding to play music. I would say almost everybody is born with "musical ability".
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10-06-2010 , 04:31 PM
LOL this thread has gone from "any advice on making $ without school" to efficient use of free time and its cost effectiveness.
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10-06-2010 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tgo007
LOL this thread has gone from "any advice on making $ without school" to efficient use of free time and its cost effectiveness.
maybe efficient use of free time is the answer to making that $ :P
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10-07-2010 , 06:04 AM
i cant believe i read all of that
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10-07-2010 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DerrtySlime
Haven't you ever been on a patio talking about Iron Man 2 or whatever?
I haven't seen Iron Man 2 nor any movie released this year or likely even last year. I have been to a movie theatre at most a dozen times in the last fifteen years. I'll enjoy a movie on a long flight and if BNN is into the after-hours / weekend repeats i might put a movie on in the background but i can never see myself actually sitting down with the primary intention of watching a movie. I don't even understand the idea of discussing a movie -- it is fictional / not real. There is so much actual real stuff to talk about I can't see ever getting to the point where I had run out of real stuff to talk about and now had to discuss fictional stuff.
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10-07-2010 , 04:11 PM
It's current pop culture information that you can use to talk with girls to pick them up.
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10-07-2010 , 04:16 PM
But seriously, I do agree with Henry to a certain degree that video games, tv, and movies are a waste of time generally speaking.
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10-07-2010 , 04:22 PM
You can make money on your hobbies too. Theres tons of hobbies I can think of that are easy to break even or better on, either you learn the market for the items involved or w/e really well or you can gamble on it or something. Golf would be a good example, music probably as well. I also find its very useful to have something you cross train in while pursuing things like poker/trading/investing. That said getting really good at anything has an anti-social aspect to it under Henry's definition, practicing your swing for a few hours or playing riffs arent exactly social activities.
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10-07-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tgo007
It's current pop culture information that you can use to talk with girls to pick them up.
Not really. If the choice was between devoting twenty hours a month to watching movies to be able to talk about them or spending that twenty hours doing something interesting the guy who does something interesting is going to have a massive advantage.
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10-08-2010 , 09:59 AM
Disclosure:

I'm responding to the OP's original inquiry without reading through the entire thread. I just don't have the interest or energy today.

Here's my take:

The surest (highest probability) way to be poor is to aim for something that might make you rich with small possibility of intermediate level gain that could serve to keep you happy and satisfied for a lifetime.

People may make incredibly broad suggestions like "start a business", which will do nothing but put you on a path to spinning your wheels for a long time, at least without better more specific advice. And frankly, those in a position to give such advice wouldn't do so here, as they would be creating competition for themselves.

First, no matter what you do your "in business". A trash-man is in the business of selling his time and labor to haul trash. A surgeon is in the business of selling his time, skill and labor to perform surgery. In both cases, their service is the product. Its just disguised as a job because there is so much need for their specific services, that there are huge organizations (municipal waste departments and hospitals) that are set up to handle the business aspects of their products for them. Such demand, and the organizational willingness to pay a salary as a result, is not a bad thing.

Ostensibly, school allows you to gain a skill which can be marketed as a product. The benefit is that employers will pay you a guaranteed fee (salary) for your product. The disadvantage is that your selling your time for money. Your time is limited, and therefore your money will be limited. However, for most people, selling their time and skill is the best deal they will ever get in life, because selling physical products or commodities tends to be much more competitive and difficult to succeed in. While its true that freeing yourself from the time/money trap enables you to scale your business to the point where you can become "rich", most people fail at doing so and at the same time incur the insecurity, stress, and overhead that an independent business requires.

If you want to give yourself the best chance at happiness, while exposing yourself to the least risk as far as your time and effort is concerned, then go back to school. I personally found the mid-level rehab professions the best gamble in terms of job security, time spent in school, flexibility, possible job satisfaction and income. That is physical therapy, occupational therapy, and speech pathology. You can PM me if you want more info on which one I'm doing and why.

In my opinion, aspiring to a salaried position in business, unless your an engineer, Ivy league, or willing to put in the many many years of drudgery in corporate accounting that it takes to become a CFO, is a fools errand.

You can build skills necessary to create websites and develop income that way. but do so while your also in school. Cover all of your bases. Don't take the risk of doing something that might not succeed, while not doing anything else that has a better chance of success. The time risk is too much. Also, its much more likely that you will have an idea for a product or high end independent service as a skilled expert than as someone in your current position. Remember, that there are many rich people selling products and services that you have no comprehension of because they are selling them to specific markets that require a high level of expertise to understand. In all, gaining that expertise is your best bet for both intermediate happiness and the possibility of becoming rich, imo.

Good luck.
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10-08-2010 , 10:15 AM
I didn't waste my time reading this whole thread, that is for sure.

I would agree with the ones that advised you to go back to school. You will certainly spend your best years and improve your chance of lifetime happiness.
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10-08-2010 , 05:57 PM
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No girl worth having is going to stay with someone if the entertainment is video games. While what people find fun is subjective at the individual level at the group level it is easy to see that certain activities are much more popular. Video games are popular among a certain demographic but certainly not as a whole and certainly not popular with hot girls.

I heard Adam Lyons loves video games and he does pretty well.
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10-08-2010 , 06:35 PM
PUA coaches in general are full of **** and most of them can't get laid. I have no idea if he falls into that category since I have no idea who he was until you just posted and I googled him but statistically he is likely a complete fraud.
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10-08-2010 , 09:28 PM
Advice on making money without school... have you ever heard of poker.
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10-10-2010 , 02:28 PM
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Advice on making money without school... have you ever heard of poker.
yes

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Good luck.
thanks
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10-10-2010 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmusicrecorder
Advice on making money without school... have you ever heard of poker.
Poker is dead unless u have already played it for a few years.
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10-10-2010 , 09:01 PM
This thread is funny, especially the part where you guys talk about what income it takes to live comfortably in the US.

By your accounts, hardly anyone in the US has a comfortable lifestyle. Median household income in the USA is only a little over 50K. (Source) Or maybe it's just indicative how costs have spiraled out of control and how hard it is to live comfortably in the USA.
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10-10-2010 , 10:01 PM
Well I mean, 50k a year in NY, LA, SF is a lot different than 50k in montana.
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