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Amazon's Play If Alabama Distribution Center Votes To Unionize? Amazon's Play If Alabama Distribution Center Votes To Unionize?

03-30-2021 , 11:51 PM
I live here in Alabama - in addition to being a prolific Amazon customer - so I'm taking a greater than usual interest in the effort by Amazon workers to vote in a labor union at Amazon's Bessemer distribution center. The voting has taken place and the NLRB is now in the process of counting the votes. (The results of the vote are expected to be announced before the end of April.)

If the vote for a union fails, I suspect it will continue to be "business as usual" for Amazon and its workers. The big question: What happens if the union vote succeeds and the Bessemer plant is successfully organized? What is Amazon's response to such a development?

My gut instinct is that Amazon, fearing this "union virus" could spread to all of their distribution centers, will take a very strong anti-union position. To wit, Amazon will announce they are [immediately] closing the Bessemer plant with plans to relocate their distribution center to a more "business friendly" state. (Such a move, if successful, would send a strong message to employees in other Amazon distribution centers who might be contemplating mounting a union organizing campaign.) Strictly from a "maximizing productivity and profits" standpoint, top Amazon management probably believes they have no choice but to do whatever is necessary to keep labor unions out of their plants.

How do you believe Amazon will respond if a majority of the Bessemer workers vote to organize?
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03-31-2021 , 08:05 AM
Unions are like condoms... if someone is trying to convince you that you don't need one, that's when you REALLY need one.
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03-31-2021 , 08:37 AM
Amazon doesn’t have a choice. If union is formed, NLRB will require Amazon to negotiate.

They can however drag the negotiations out quite a bit and just slowly make the Alabama distribution center less important.
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03-31-2021 , 08:41 AM
If one unionizes, would that not force others to consider the same?

Also, would this not reflect rather poorly if they abandoned the distribution center in Alabama just to avoid negotiations.
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03-31-2021 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
If one unionizes, would that not force others to consider the same?

Also, would this not reflect rather poorly if they abandoned the distribution center in Alabama just to avoid negotiations.
I'm somewhat torn and ambivalent over this ...

As a long-time Amazon customer - I started buying books from Amazon in 1998 - I enjoy their low prices and generally good service. To his credit, Jeff Bezos has instilled the philosophy (and the practice) that the customer comes first. That mindset comes from the top and filters down across the entire company. A lot of companies "talk" a good game when it comes to putting their customers first. Mr. Bezos actually means it. So that's the positive side of Amazon.

As an unrepentant "librul," what bothers me about Amazon is the way they [allegedly] treat their workers. If some of what I have read is actually true, I would never consider applying for a job with Amazon myself or recommending a friend or relative apply. I've worked in only one union plant during my lifetime. (It was a corrugated box plant while I was working my way through college. If you love working in 100 degree heat and sweating off 10 pounds a day, you would have loved working in that plant.)

It's possible that I could be wrong about this, but my sense is that companies who experience "labor problems" - especially union organizing efforts - have brought it on themselves. Workers who are being treated with dignity and respect by their employer are generally not susceptible to a union organizing effort. When a company (like Amazon?) becomes obsessed with squeezing every last smidgen of productivity out of their workers, it's tantamount to giving unions a green light to organize their workers.

It's a fine line managers have to draw between maximizing productivity and having a tolerable work environment. The companies (and managements) that strike the right balance have labor peace. Those that don't wind up having to deal with a union.
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03-31-2021 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
If one unionizes, would that not force others to consider the same?

Also, would this not reflect rather poorly if they abandoned the distribution center in Alabama just to avoid negotiations.
They are legally bound to sit down and negotiate.

But they can drag it out and basically not give any concessions for months, if not years.

The unionizers honestly have a bit of a problem, namely AMZN actually is paying higher wages and more benefits than other similar employers. That means AMZN can pretty much just offer what they already offer and give virtually nothing and NLRB would probably be okay with it.
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