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02-03-2021 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
There's no theory. Whole number closes aren't terribly unusual but this is pretty lol. Just wondering on the mechanics of it, especially in something this absurdly volatile.
If there are 100 cents in a dollar it would leave you to believe there is a 1 in 100 chance any stock closes at x.00. However, I would argue that odds of this happening are better than 1/100 since we have a lot of amateur traders who are more likely to stick to whole dollar numbers than the pros.

So at worst we are talking about (1/100 * 1/100 =) 1 in 10k. And no it shouldn't be (1/100)^3 because that screenshot could have been anytime pre-market and it isn't hard to screenshot on x.00 if you are given hours to do so.
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02-03-2021 , 11:28 AM
from an article I read on yahoo news: Referring mainly to GameStop, the Shark Tank star said: “If you can afford to hold the stock, you hold. I dont own it, but thats what i would do. Why? because when RH and the other online brokers open it back up to buyers, then we will see what WSB is really made of. That is when you get to make it all work. I have no doubt that there are funds and big players that have shorted this stock again thinking they are smarter than everyone on WSB. I know you are going to hate to hear this, but the lower it goes, the more powerful WSB can be stepping up to buy the stock again.”

This is pretty disgusting. I know cuban and others celebrities and politicians are asking for RH executives to be investigated, but I think Cuban should be held accountable for saying the above and is more guilty than them.

Portney on the other hand likely shouldn't be held accountable to the trash he is saying because he isn't a sophisticated investor as cuban is.

"Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy said he lost $700,000 on "meme stocks" like GameStop." LOL
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02-03-2021 , 11:45 AM
I don't really care about the meme stocks but it was pretty weak of Portnoy to sell out after being such a strong advocate here. He is one of the people who could afford it.
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02-03-2021 , 11:47 AM
Bahbahmickey, excuse yourself, he's a ****ING BILLIONAIRE:

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PLEASE UPVOTE: EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS:
HOLDING ALONE IS NOT GOING TO WORK. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER ONCE MORE
I’m sure many of you (along with myself) were thinking about $ROPE last night after seeing our portfolios take such a hit. BUT, we still have a chance. And BILLIONAIRE Mark Cuban showed us how and everyone missed it. The only reason the stonk gained any traction is because everyone bought in together. We did this as a TEAM and made shockwaves. We changed the game. The power of the retail investor banding together made a stonk hit an unbelievable high.

Holding alone is not going to work this time. We need to come together again and invest in the stock we LIKE… AGAIN.

How you may ask? FINDING A NEW broker. If you’re stuck on RH, leave you RH account and open another one with you bank or WeBull or Fidelity or whatever it is in your country. Make the move and we can do this together… TODAY. Regardless of whether or not the squeeze has already occurred, Cuban explicitly stated that he thinks funds and big players have shorted the stock AGAIN because they think they are smarter than all of us.

The world thinks we are autistic after yesterday’s bloodbath. We NEED to come together again and show the world how autistic we really are!

There are 8 million subs on here. Whether you’re in the RED or GREEN or have sold, investing another $100 into a stonk you like is not going to break you anymore than it already has. BUT it will make a HUGE difference if we do it TOGETHER. $100 x 8million subs.. WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE.

USA, Canada, Europe, Asia, Antartica, whatever, we need to COME TOGETHER ONCE MORE. TODAY IS THE DAY.

We did this once, we can do it again. This the ENDGAME folks, how are you going to go out? Are you going to stand up and fight or just lay down and die.

/WSB ******S…. ASSEMBLE

KEY TAKE AWAYS from a ****ING BILLIONAIRE:



I know you are going to hate to hear this, but the lower it goes, the more powerful WSB can be stepping up to buy the stock again. The only question is what broker do you use . Do you stay with RH, who is going to have the same liquidity problems over and over again, or do you as a group find a broker with a far, far, far better balance sheet that wont cut you off and then go ham on Wall Street.

THE PRICE IS IN OUR FAVOUR. EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET INTO A NEW PLATFORM TODAY AND WE CAN STILL WIN THIS



Supply and Demand, but in this case it literally could be because the source of demand has been crippled . When RH shut it down, then cut it back, lets put aside why, they cut of the greatest source of demand. They created a RobinHood Dive. No RH buyers, means sellers lower their price to find buyers. And they keep on lowering it till they find buyers. Keep the most natural buyers out of the market and the price keeps on FALLING.

That said, you will do all this again. You will go after WS and the next time you will be smarter. There was only one thing that messed you all up: RobinHood and the other zero commission brokers that everyone used didnt have enough capital to fund the fight. They let you down in a big way.

WE MADE THE MARKET. WE ALSO BROKE THE MARKET. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER ONCE MORE. FIND A NEW BROKER. PAY THE TRADING FEE IF YOU HAVE TO. IT WON’T MATTER ONCE IT’S TO THE MOON.



Final thought. First thanks for the great questions. Thanks for changing the game. Thanks for taking on Wall Street. Thanks for making kids around the country if not the world( including my son and daughter). WSB changed the game far more than everyone on this board will ever get credit for.

WE MADE A DIFFERENCE BY COMING TOGETHER. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY. HOLDING ALONE WILL NOT HELP.



I have no doubt that there are funds and big players that have shorted this stock again thinking they are smarter than everyone on WSB.

THE NEW SQUEEZE IS INTO PLAY. THEY THINK WE’RE ******ED? LET’S SHOW THEM HOW ******ED WE REALLY ARE



No disruption is easy or happens in a straight line. Stay with it. I am a believer

A ****ING BILLIONAIRE IS A BELIEVER. ARE YOU A ****ING BILLIONAIRE? WE CAN DO THIS



NOTE: I AM NOT A FINANCIAL ADVISOR, NOR IS THIS FINANCIAL ADVICE OF ANY KIND. THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL. I AM ******ED SO PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO ME.
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02-03-2021 , 11:56 AM
This is pretty funny - this is one of the highest upvoted comments in a thread about GameStop hiring a fairly low-level manager at AWS as their CTO:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetb...eb2x&context=3

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Yep, I think it's a good indication of how they intend to take the company.

They'll likely establish a web service arm that focuses on providing competitively priced hosting to generate income.

Establish a streaming service for gamers that can rival Twitch. They can avoid Microsoft's mistakes with Mixer by not overpaying for talent - rather hosting tournaments with cash prizes that require streaming on the service to qualify + aggressive affiliate marketing programs for web services, gamestop products and advertising revenue. This will bring in the next generation of streamers while also drawing in some of the old ones. They can then expand outside of gaming to target Youtube content creators dissatisfied with some more restricted areas and monetize that content for a more mature audience.

That effectively gives them three means of making more money + the PC building plans.

This has serious long term potential.
Yup, hire a rando from Amazon, build an AWS competitor and a Twitch competitor, easy money.
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02-03-2021 , 12:03 PM
Maybe Mark should of stepped up to buy rather than egging on a bunch of idiots who make 25k a year
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02-03-2021 , 12:10 PM
Shame GME didn't think of building EVs. That's where the real money is.
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02-03-2021 , 12:28 PM
putting all of their cash in bitcoin would get them to $200, doing an EV gets them back to $400. Problem solved.
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02-03-2021 , 01:39 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-wrong/617905/

Agree with almost all. Way more accurate picture of what happened.
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02-03-2021 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
This is pretty funny - this is one of the highest upvoted comments in a thread about GameStop hiring a fairly low-level manager at AWS as their CTO:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetb...eb2x&context=3



Yup, hire a rando from Amazon, build an AWS competitor and a Twitch competitor, easy money.
This is the stock market in a nutshell right now. The market has been so damn eager to slurp any BS narrative fed to it and price in ASAP the best case scenario for the future of the stock.
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02-03-2021 , 01:49 PM
Atlantic article starts with the conclusion, picks out irrelevant info and exaggerates facts to get to the conclusion.
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02-03-2021 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
Atlantic article starts with the conclusion, picks out irrelevant info and exaggerates facts to get to the conclusion.
What parts did you disagree with? I think the comparison to occupy wall street is dead on as both "causes" are based off of terrible logic and will end without accomplishing anything important.
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02-03-2021 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
This is pretty funny - this is one of the highest upvoted comments in a thread about GameStop hiring a fairly low-level manager at AWS as their CTO:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetb...eb2x&context=3



Yup, hire a rando from Amazon, build an AWS competitor and a Twitch competitor, easy money.
Whenever I read stuff like this about stuff I'm knowledgeable about and is pure and utter BS it kinda makes me feel worried about how much I use Reddit to stay up to date on various topics. Oh well.
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02-03-2021 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
Whenever I read stuff like this about stuff I'm knowledgeable about and is pure and utter BS it kinda makes me feel worried about how much I use Reddit to stay up to date on various topics. Oh well.
I have only recently visited reddit for the first time ever since all of this current gme stuff happened. Not a fan. As a site it looks bad and is hard to follow, read or even look at.
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02-03-2021 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
I have only recently visited reddit for the first time ever since all of this current gme stuff happened. Not a fan. As a site it looks bad and is hard to follow, read or even look at.
Agree but can say the same about Twitter and FB. I'm always amazed at how certain sites become huge when they look terrible and are barely usable. First mover/critical mass of users I guess.
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02-03-2021 , 03:59 PM
Reddit is amazing. Not sure how you would organize millions of users any better.

You guys are probably old heads though

edit: reddit is amazing as long as you are just looking into the monkey cage. Don't hop in
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02-03-2021 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Agree but can say the same about Twitter and FB. I'm always amazed at how certain sites become huge when they look terrible and are barely usable. First mover/critical mass of users I guess.
I find Twitter to be pretty good but I only view it through lists I have created of just the people I want to follow. Also no ads on lists and I can group them by subjects I am interested in. So when I am trying to follow my investment/trading guys it isn't intertwined with my baseball guys or news guys etc.

Facebook? Can't say as I have never (and will never) see a facebook page in my life.
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02-03-2021 , 04:29 PM
The Reddit investing or personal finance seems decent, have found it fairly useless to get any useful info on things like business advice or car repairs, home improvements. The specific forums that have been around for awhile seem better. With Reddit though you have a bit of everything all in one.
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02-03-2021 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
I have only recently visited reddit for the first time ever since all of this current gme stuff happened. Not a fan. As a site it looks bad and is hard to follow, read or even look at.
+1

Exact same experience for me as i too was a reddit virgin.
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02-03-2021 , 04:59 PM
Speaking of which I had this thread earlier:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...-news-1770816/

Anything else that beats r/wallstreetbets, r/stocks, r/investing, etc? I don't even mind the memes or irreverence, but I don't like how WSB can be entirely taken over by a hive mind.
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02-03-2021 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
Speaking of which I had this thread earlier:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...-news-1770816/

Anything else that beats r/wallstreetbets, r/stocks, r/investing, etc? I don't even mind the memes or irreverence, but I don't like how WSB can be entirely taken over by a hive mind.
Low traffic, but r/securityanalysis, r/valueinvesting
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02-03-2021 , 05:05 PM
BFI might have the highest ratio of winners:losers posted on the entire internet. Some super savvy people here

Might be some private resources that are better
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02-03-2021 , 05:49 PM
GME is back baby! +2.68% in one day. ������������ Suck on it T-bills and money market accounts!
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02-03-2021 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
the Shorts perceive is vulnerable they can pile on the Shorts and release their 'analysis' to reduce the companies ability to attract new capital and thus reduce greatly the chance of turnaround even if metrics do improve.
this is just wrong. Shorts shorting a stock has nothing to do with their ability to access capital in the markets. They cannot attract new capital because: a] suspicions of fraud, b] overleverage, c]mgmt seen as incompetent, d] overall industry/economic issues, e] terrible results.

If a company is 'vulnerable' it is because their underlying business sucks. You have cause and effect reversed.

Put differently, shorts did very well in 2008-early 2009. The junk bond markets were closed for months; but for reasons that had NOTHING to do with short-sellers.

The fact that a US cyclical's stock had fallen from 55 to 15 wasn't impairing their ability to borrow -- which they eventually did when the bond markets re-opened. Banks and bond managers and pension funds didn't care they were investing in debt of a firm whose equity mkt cap had fallen 70%.

Today, virtually any public company not going quickly BK can access the bond markets and even issue covenant-lite debt, ffs.

How many companies, not suspected of fraud like wirecard or Enron, with nicely growing top and bottom lines are heavily shorted? I can think of none [excluding M&A deals where they are the acquirer].

Last edited by NajdorfDefense; 02-03-2021 at 06:23 PM.
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02-03-2021 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dc_publius
Some people made big money on GME, and it's not retail investors. Melvin and Citron excepted, I am guessing that other wall street firms made big buckets off money from the retail gamblers. Wrong?
Correct. Permit Capital and several others are known to have cashed in bigly.

Institutional ownership, at last filings, were 95% of GME.
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