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05-11-2017 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by daChimp
Sorry, we dont want any. I would consider your yammering on part of the pump.

Keep an open mind in here or prepare to be bounced by a mod.
Lol when the daChimp is giving you posting advice you're in deep waters...

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Originally Posted by MarathonMan7
"This why we heart tooth sayer! The fans want a wager booked!!!!"

Why would I wager? I guess nobody told me odds yet for a wager, but I'd obviously be getting way better odds (at least in mind) to just put that money in the stock. In my mind, it's going up at least 10x, which nobody is going to give me obviously. Also, I would way rather put the money in this stock then make a bet on the internet with a guy I don't know.
To prove the size of your nuts, obviously not for profit. We know you can profit more on the margin. Wagers are how 2p2 resolves a duel.
05-11-2017 , 10:02 AM
Ha
05-11-2017 , 10:09 AM
I learned my lesson. I stopped swimming with guppies and now dabble with sharks.

I may not get much trading cred, but dont care... I know I have a lot to learn. But making great headway. But I do understand 2p2, and Marathon Donk came in here to pump... I know most are smart enough to let him know or cut him off at the knees.
05-11-2017 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Haven't read the conference call yet, but if it was like the last one no actual actionable information will be disclosed and the results don't matter because with development-stage biotech results can always be spun and the CMFIC of XON is a wonderful teller of tales.
Let's at least put the "quarterly results don't matter" argument post earnings to rest given the action today.
05-11-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokey_The_Bear
Let's at least put the "quarterly results don't matter" argument post earnings to rest given the action today.
I listened to the conference call. I'm actually quite confused as to why it is going up today...
05-11-2017 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Steiger
Would like to short the ES in the area between 2397 and 2398, but given the dynamic I think I will call it a day soon
I guess my setup was kind of spot on
Unfortunately I would not have gotten a fill, had my sell limit at 2397.25

05-11-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Tell your cousin to get a new cousin.
Lol. I can't stop laughing at this.
05-11-2017 , 11:21 AM
I caught the earnings and guidance of Pegasystems (PEGA)... whatta beast. P/e of 161 is a little concerning, but the yoy growth has been amazing and with the tech being in focus again. Might be worth a watch and further DD.
05-11-2017 , 12:44 PM
" The last time it was pumped was 2012 "

It's very funny you say that. The last time IMUN was pumped was 2012. Yes, you are correct.

http://m.beforeitsnews.com/financial...h-2444662.html

Oh wait a second. It says Immunovative (IMUN)????

Immunovative is a completely different company than Immune Therapeutics. The company, Immunovative (IMUN), that was pumped in 2012, is TAUG (Tauruga Sciences) today.

The company that I'm preaching about is Immune Therapeutics (IMUN), completely different company. Immune Therapeutics started trading as IMUN in 2014. Before 2014, it traded as TNIB (TNI Biotech).

"It's being pumped by amateurs."
I'm the pumper you say? Not true, I'm just an investor, only here preaching because I was asked to by my cousin (read previous posts).
05-11-2017 , 12:47 PM
"Get a new cousin" still solid gold advice
05-11-2017 , 01:22 PM
"Get a new cousin" still solid gold advice

DaChimp, yes I can see you're not interested.

As I've said, I am posting because my cousin asked me to.

I've actually INVITED all criticisms about IMUN. I'm inviting for them to keep coming. So far, in my opinion, I've refuted everything that has been said.

DaChimp, is there something specific about IMUN that makes you think it is no good? If not, please don't bother me with your responses. I am willing to hear your criticisms, and will respond to your criticisms. I didn't ask for your baseless insults.

Yes, I can see that you have learned your lesson swimming with sharks. Seems obvious to me from your posts. But I'm still waiting for your arguments about specific concerns you have. I will respond to everything.
05-11-2017 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by daChimp
I caught the earnings and guidance of Pegasystems (PEGA)... whatta beast. P/e of 161 is a little concerning, but the yoy growth has been amazing and with the tech being in focus again. Might be worth a watch and further DD.
Believe it was on CRM's radar a year or so ago, might be an attractive target still.
05-11-2017 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by twelve yr old
Believe it was on CRM's radar a year or so ago, might be an attractive target still.
I added a small position to begin building upon and stash in my long term portfolio.
05-11-2017 , 01:38 PM
In reference to IMUN...

So far, I believe I've refuted all criticisms. The one criticism I want to elaborate is that relating to the 10m share purchase from Ira Gaines a few days ago.

Someone mentioned concern about "predatory lending".

The problem with this concern is that there is no lending going on at all. There was, however, a purchase (again, no loan involved here) of 10 million shares.

Again, I've been waiting for a response, but how is a 10 million share purchase with a 6 month lock up period (plus a warrant for an extra 1.5 million shares that is worthless if the stock doesn't more than double) any concern? Whoever it was that posted this, please respond further so we can discuss.

It seems very good news to me, and the market has treated it as very good news since it was published as well. So please elaborate.

Please keep bringing on the criticisms. I'll keep responding.
05-11-2017 , 01:40 PM
Can someone please bring the ban hammer
05-11-2017 , 01:43 PM
how about, why do you care so much,, its only like 25 of us here, and 24.75 of us wont buy anything with a .pk at the end of the quote. i wish i could short it honestly.
05-11-2017 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MarathonMan7
So far, in my opinion, I've refuted everything that has been said.
Worthless product line (low dose naltrexone is already available everywhere, including Kenya), wildly incorrect claims about the efficacy of low dose naltrexone, and history of being pumped by paid pumpers (Penny Stock Pros and MadMoneyPennyStocks)?

I miss the part where you refuted those things.
05-11-2017 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by daChimp
I added a small position to begin building upon and stash in my long term portfolio.
Here's the article if you're interested in reading it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/leake...n-list-2016-10
05-11-2017 , 02:00 PM
if you guys interested in a lotto ticket,, the 12/15 strp 160 puts are being offered for 1.90 , if the deal with verizon doesnt go through, it can be a major coup . like the risk/reward .
05-11-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by twelve yr old
Here's the article if you're interested in reading it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/leake...n-list-2016-10
Tyty
05-11-2017 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Worthless product line (low dose naltrexone is already available everywhere, including Kenya), wildly incorrect claims about the efficacy of low dose naltrexone, and history of being pumped by paid pumpers (Penny Stock Pros and MadMoneyPennyStocks)?

I miss the part where you refuted those things.
Well that's because you didn't read my entire posts clearly...

Not worthless product line actually. Low dose naltrexone patents are all owned by IMUN. There are those that are infringing on the patents, yes. But that is another point that will be dealed with in time. IMUN currently doesn't have the money to go after those infringing.

"Wildly incorrect claims about the efficacy"

How so?

"This was a single center, open labeled, randomized, bridging study of a 150 people. The Treatment Group was treated with 4.5 mg of Lodonal nightly in conjunction with antiretroviral. The Control Group was treated with antiretroviral plus placebo. The primary endpoints were efficacy and safety determined by a minimum increase of 25% in the CD4 count with no adverse effects on quality of life.
The results yielded an average 44% increase in CD4 count in the Treatment Group compared with 11% increase for the Control Group and there was no adverse effect on quality of life or opportunistic infections during the trial. The Nigeria trial’s results were consistent with previous clinical trials of LDN."

This is in reference to the bridging trial in Nigeria for LDN. LDN was approved by NAFDAC (Nigerian FDA) in 2016 , because it performed better than expectations in the trials (44% increase in CD4 count, when they were just looking to find a 25% increase). "

So how do you say that my claims about the efficacy are wildly incorrect? Why did the Nigerian FDA already approve the drug if my claims about efficacy are incorrect? Please admit you're wrong or bring up your next argument for me to refute.

History of pumps...as I've said, Immune Therapeutics is not the pump and dump mentioned here...

http://www.hotstocked.com/article/37...ative-inc.html

In 2012, Immunovative (a different company that used ticker IMUN back in 2012-2013) was a pump and dump, yes. That company has no relation to Immune Therapeutics. Immune Therapeutics started trading under IMUN in 2014. Before then, the company name was TNI Biotech (TNIB).

Last edited by MarathonMan7; 05-11-2017 at 02:34 PM.
05-11-2017 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by daChimp
Can someone please bring the ban hammer

DaChimp, you've insulted me. Your insults are baseless. I've asked you nicely if there are specific criticisms that you could bring up that I have a chance to repute. And instead (since you have nothing), you decide to just insult more.

And you're asking to ban me? Please explain why.
05-11-2017 , 02:25 PM
No one here is gonna buy it, move on.
05-11-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
how about, why do you care so much,, its only like 25 of us here, and 24.75 of us wont buy anything with a .pk at the end of the quote. i wish i could short it honestly.

I don't care actually. I get plenty of meaningful discussion on Investors Hub, and really have no reason to try to convince the 25 of you. If you went back 2 pages, and read all the posts, I've already explained why I'm here.

I've been trying to convince my cousin to buy. He asked his friend, DaHardKnocks, to post on 2+2 about this company to see what you guys think(my cousin and DaHardKnocks post on 2+2 as poker players) , as my cousin knows nothing about stocks, and wanted opinions other than from me.

DaHardKnocks posted on page 35 about IMUN. DaHardKnocks is a smart guy, but doesn't know much about stocks, so both of them just asked me to respond to the posts on here.

As I've said, I'm here because my cousin asked me to be here. I could care less what you guys think. I am arguing my point at my cousin's request.
05-11-2017 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MarathonMan7
"Get a new cousin" still solid gold advice

DaChimp, yes I can see you're not interested.

As I've said, I am posting because my cousin asked me to.
That's a good line. "Are you single? My cousin asked me to ask you". In your case I'm sure you do have a cousin, but it's still a great deflection.

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I've actually INVITED all criticisms about IMUN. I'm inviting for them to keep coming. So far, in my opinion, I've refuted everything that has been said.
Please. Your Youtube videos are about as useful as this - as are your testimonials:



I take, given that you like testimonials on Youtube, you'll start midstreeaming tomorrow?

Your complete lack of objectivity about the fact that this is quackery, doesn't bode well for the rest of your thesis. The truth is that every quack treatment in the world from cow piss to low dose naltrexone a) helps nearly everything b) "boosts the immune system" c) has studies published in journals showing that it works d) has thousands of people who genuinely, to the depth of their soul, swear by it and believe it cured everything from agrophobia to zika virus.

If you're going to invest in the bio space, you need to understand that most early studies are wrong (this is a scientific fact), and that non-blinded studies are considered close to worthless.

If you said "yeah, the treatment is obviously bull****, I realize that, but good marketing will get them sales like other quack products, now that they have approval", then showed a funded marketing and business plan, I'd at least know that you're rational and reasonable, and not neck deep in the crazy.

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DaChimp, is there something specific about IMUN that makes you think it is no good? If not, please don't bother me with your responses. I am willing to hear your criticisms, and will respond to your criticisms. I didn't ask for your baseless insults.
You're insulting everyone by posting such a lowbrow pump and dump, with ultra-shady investors, Nigeria, and a pill that treats everything from HIV to breast cancer to Alzheimer's.

Last edited by ToothSayer; 05-11-2017 at 02:37 PM.

      
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