That sounds like TA.

Come on man, agree to the bet!

I guess that could work. I'd rather post in real time here though. IB has paper trading but you have to pay for two sets of data, you can't share them, and I don't want to have two screens open all the time for < 10 trades I'll make to win this.

If I post in real time, with historical data we can check the exact options bid/ask at the minute of the trade. Mods can see if a post is edited in the five minute window before edits becomes visible to all. Seems infallible. It seems to me there would be ways to game paper trading. If paper trading options is even possible apart from IB.

I enjoy bets where both sides think they're getting the best of it.

I'm not willing to work that hard, and I'm going to guess that you already have the data feeds necessary since you are already trading real money. Just don't pay twice for the same data.

It should only be a couple of lines of additional code to trade the paper account on top of your real accounts, right?

Then disable the code once you've hit the target to win the bet. Doesn't even need to be coded in ahead of time.

There's no work required verifying 10 real time posted trades on 2p2. I can post a screenshot of the prices at entry/exit. Any lies would be instantly caught out by anyone with options market data. Not to mention, I need huge moves in the underlying to get there and it'll be obvious the numbers are correct.

If you insist on paper trading, it looks like you can share market data with your paper trading on IB as long as you're on the same device. Thing is though, IB provides delayed quotes if you have two devices open, so it'd be a cinch to game this to win. I probably should since you're stupidly insisting on cheatable paper trading rather than uncheatable real time posted trades, which is just asking to be cheated.

Up to you. Will do IB paper if you want, or other platform of your choice

Does IB paper accounts allow you to trade at the delayed prices? If so, that would be me ****ing myself. If not, it seems fair

I'm not sure but I think it does.

I might just create a linked IB real money account instead, and put $1K in it. Then the trades will show up in the market data volume history as well for extra verification. Plus real slipppage, etc.

Will have this set up by new year. Bet is on.

It should take a few minutes tomorrow for you to confirm or deny. Just place some paper option trades on anything that moves violently tomorrow and let me know if the lag between paper trading and real life options are weird.

Ignore my last post. A real money account fixes every issue that I can think of. I agree in total if you just do it in real money. Yay!

Try to keep at least $500 in your checking account so you can pay up.

Not AUD, mind you. Real actual crinkly USD.

Come on man. This is a no brainer bet of all time for you. I'm not even betting on my results against yours.

If you listen closely, you can hear the internet chanting softly "do it. do it. do it"

Add in that it will totally piss me off if you win.

Easy bet. Make it.

I think he did

"might just" is confusing.

Bet's on. Just have to create and approve the linked account which take a week or two, IB only links accounts every Friday.

I'll be humiliated if you win this.

I like my answer more than Yellen's

Easily worth $1k.

In case you plan to follow along

funny seeing each one of them arguing for worse odds. Paper trading would make this so much easier

If we were betting more than a nominal amount, I'm sure that we'd have not come to an agreement. I will be disappointed if I lose the bet and don't get $1000 worth of entertainment value.

TA is just a visual representation of the market. If you look at a chart you are using it if even subconsciously. TA often confirms those "news" events you are so fond of. One of the best signals is when seemingly bullish or bearish news comes out and the market either doesn't react or goes the other way.

Next you'll be claiming that when I look at the stars to navigate, I'm doing astrology.

Looking at the price and volume is not technical analysis, sorry. Technical analysis is stuff like believing that support and resistance are real things, believing that you'd found a particular pattern purely on price action where you have 2:1 odds of winning the trade or get paid 3:1 half the time, stuff like that.

Looking at how far something has moved or on what volume doesn't meet the threshold to be called technical analysis. Oversold and overbought are not technical analysis.

You can overreach in a desperate attempt to give your astrology credibility and wider acceptance, but few people would accept your view that that's technical analysis, and highly winning traders laugh at technical analysis.

Note that I'm talking about equities; commodities which you trade are different and i have no opinion.