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10-13-2020 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by applesauce123
BFI's most infamous losing trader basically giving out free hundies. Can only assume his DMs are blowing up with people champing at the bit to get a piece of the action
You hate to see it
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10-14-2020 , 01:29 PM
If TS is offering prop bets, any taker should take heed that TS has a history of making new accounts and there is a thread that basically amounts to TS dodging what, according to his claims in that thread, should be an easy bet where he only invests $1000.
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10-14-2020 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
They're not incompatible. The first is talking about the general market (boring, hard to get good profit on for the contest), the second is talking about the bubble crap (stuff like NIO or OSTK) you can make a quick 200% on if you pick very well. The crap like these are so bubbled up now that it's a tough ask to find something (with skill) that can moon and take you ahead in the contest, it's nearly entirely luck at these highs after the Great Robinhood Bubble of 2020.
if i somehow lose fair and square it was actually all just because of luck
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10-14-2020 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
If TS is offering prop bets, any taker should take heed that TS has a history of making new accounts and there is a thread that basically amounts to TS dodging what, according to his claims in that thread, should be an easy bet where he only invests $1000.
You're continuing your perfect record of being wrong about everything you post.

1. I don't have a history of making new (unrecognizable) accounts. I've lost passwords twice because I travel a lot and had to make a new account, but it's always identified as me. Same name and avatar.

2. I have never dodged a bet, you piece of ****. In fact you should eat an infraction for lying about a poster's bet history and defaming them. I paid out the bet I lost (unescrowed) in full immediately.

3. This is a bet for fun (free money from me that might be meaningful to a small stakes player) vs an avatar. It's not for money (except for people getting my money)

What the actual **** is wrong with you?
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10-14-2020 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by As1an1nvas1on
if i somehow lose fair and square it was actually all just because of luck
If someones wins they win. What I'm saying is that the market doesn't have a lot of skilled base 200% runups like it did before this contest started. That increases the skill level by making it a harder grind right now.
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10-14-2020 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
If someones wins they win. What I'm saying is that the market doesn't have a lot of skilled base 200% runups like it did before this contest started. That increases the skill level by making it a harder grind right now.

the returns in a trending market vs a ranging market before and after covid should be relative

learning when to look for huge scam pumps and when to hit singles essentially defines good from bad trading (i.e. skill), no?
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10-14-2020 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
If TS is offering prop bets, any taker should take heed that TS has a history of making new accounts and there is a thread that basically amounts to TS dodging what, according to his claims in that thread, should be an easy bet where he only invests $1000.
Despite what happened in the bet itself, TS paid up immediately. Brian posted a picture of the money he received within day(s) of the bet ending.

So your post should actually be an endorsement of how easy it is to fleece TS on bets he makes and doesn't take any steps to actually win
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10-14-2020 , 06:18 PM
What is the bet he’s offering?
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10-14-2020 , 06:23 PM
Maybe if you weren't a worthless loser wasting everyone time you would have actually read the bet post before chiming in?
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10-14-2020 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
What is the bet he’s offering?
100$ if you beat him, avatar of his choosing if you lose. Some other very minor stipulations, but should be free money for all the pros since hes such a hack fraud
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10-14-2020 , 07:38 PM
Duration of avatar?

If avatar for a year, sure. I am in.

If for longer duration, no thanks and I counter offer:

I am willing to wager life time self bans or my $1000 for his $2000, with escrow.

Offer open until midnight Sunday. Quote to accept. If money option, contingent on finding acceptable escrow.

Since I have TS on ignore, someone please kindly quote TS if he accepts.

Last edited by grizy; 10-14-2020 at 07:43 PM.
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11-19-2020 , 04:08 PM
TSLA hard carrying my portfolio.
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11-30-2020 , 02:43 PM
This has gotten interesting. "Long the crap" trades are taking the cake right now, with TSLA, MRNA, ROKU and PLTR picks being the driving force behind for 3 of the to 4 leaders (shoutout to DefinitelyNotTS in a league of his own); short scalping is the strategy for the other one in the leader pack (me/tooth), with jb killing it at short scalping as well (better than me) but getting knocked out of contention recently caught short Tesla:



Love to hear when the TSLA and ROKU bros are going to dump their positions, it's a crapfest market right now and they were good picks.
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12-03-2020 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
This has gotten interesting. "Long the crap" trades are taking the cake right now, with TSLA, MRNA, ROKU and PLTR picks being the driving force behind for 3 of the to 4 leaders (shoutout to DefinitelyNotTS in a league of his own); short scalping is the strategy for the other one in the leader pack (me/tooth), with jb killing it at short scalping as well (better than me) but getting knocked out of contention recently caught short Tesla:



Love to hear when the TSLA and ROKU bros are going to dump their positions, it's a crapfest market right now and they were good picks.
So it seems like the stupidity of the late 2017 crypto market has bled into stocks. Valuations and fundamentals are irrelevant, just long the memes (alts) and hodl.
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12-04-2020 , 02:54 PM
Grizy running the tables. Not surprising.
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12-19-2020 , 11:57 PM
Is there an end date to the contest?
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12-30-2020 , 01:35 PM
leveraged index investing confirmed underrated?
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03-29-2021 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
Tooth running the tables. Not surprising.
FYP and agreed. Did you exit the contest down 40% or something? lol.

Skilled short scalping beating all comers still, and this in a market up 20% since the contest started. The Sharpe on this is off the charts compared to other strategies.



As per the earlier discussion I do think great long picking of potential 3+ baggers is optimal in a different market (one earlier in a recovery or bull run that's not so crazily bubbled), but at these highs short scalping is going to crush all other strategies imo, no matter where the market goes - even if the bubble continues. Even starting in July with the huge market recovery since, short scalping dominated on all measures - lowest risk, highest return, best reliability, most consistent return.
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04-01-2021 , 04:44 PM
Dumb site displays my TECL down 90% instead of 10%. I should be in 2nd or 3rd place if it ever gets corrected, which keeps me in contention. Oh well.
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04-01-2021 , 05:05 PM
Yeah it takes a while to account for splits. Jupiter0 is actually on about 10% after you account for splits instead of 41%.

Bull run starting up again after a long period of chop/high flyer deflation. Might get interesting again since most people are long
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04-22-2021 , 09:58 AM
If I cared, I'd sell AZN because my original investment thesis is kaput. It looks increasinly likely AZN's vaccine does have some correlation with blood clots. Whether the vaccines cause blood clots or are unacceptably risky is irrelevant at this point with Pfizer and Moderna vaccines available.

I also would shed USO. 61/barrel is a weird spot where marginal production costs in large parts of the fracking fields are and things get difficult to predict. I think there is some potential upside because of Covid recovery but the upside is limited with Saudis still voluntarily cutting production.

PYPL is still well positioned to benefit from more online and contactless payments. Investment thesis is unchanged.

MRNA is realizing near top end equity short term. Long term, the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines, which are undoubtedly near the very top (like top 1%) of expected efficacy, bodes extremely well for mRNA tech, in vaccines, even if nothing else. They remind me of Biogen, but bigger and with a technology with more applications.

TSLA is still in the twilight zone where the bull thesis is unfalsifiable (other than with the death of Elon) and everytime they deliver on something even remotely close to Elon's expectations, the stock goes up.
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07-03-2021 , 01:37 PM
Just got an email saying this thing is over. I though it went for a full year which would be Aug 1? Anyway congrats to DefinitelyNotTS for the win! I coulda woulda shoulda but made a couple of real bad moves along the way. Plus I pretty much abandoned my "trading" strategy about half way in for an "investing" strategy due to lots of travel and other interests since covid is over.

But it was a fun contest and thanks to all who participated.
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07-05-2021 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
Just got an email saying this thing is over. I though it went for a full year which would be Aug 1? Anyway congrats to DefinitelyNotTS for the win! I coulda woulda shoulda but made a couple of real bad moves along the way. Plus I pretty much abandoned my "trading" strategy about half way in for an "investing" strategy due to lots of travel and other interests since covid is over.

But it was a fun contest and thanks to all who participated.
Yeah that was a good contest and I like the platform. I was looking forward to my AMC MRIN shorts playing out but oh well. Did you learn anything from the contest? I learned that shorting "supernovae" stocks up 300,400%+ in weeks to a month or so is pretty consistent. As long as the run is mostly due to hype, short-squeeze or a bad mediocre company or a combination. A lot of the ones I shorted wouldn't have had any borrows and probably enough volume in real life but it's pretty neat it works so well in a bull market. So I am going to start scanning for these more and try to go with put options if possible. It's tough to short overnight and I guess that's why the play contest made it so easy to hold for day after day.
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07-12-2021 , 09:49 AM
I learned that strong investment theses and patience can win the day.
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