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10-22-2014 , 04:12 AM
Hey guys, Im 27yrs old, I've been playing poker for the past 3 years now somewhat regularly. I've had a very strange path so far that I feel I am always battling the bad side of variance... could this be true? I play mostly low/med stake MTTS on stars but find I either can not bubble for long periods of time then I seem to make a final table once every few months... two weeks ago i finished 6th in the big 27.50, my biggest cash is winning the big 11 last august for over 13k....

That being said, I rarely can make bubbles these days. I CONSTANTLY am getting busted by players who get it in bad against me and then hit their draws once the chips are in the middle... Should I be folding KK, AA, AK etc more often!? I feel like I play a pretty solid game because I am often picking my opponents ranges off very well, but even once i determine Im ahead, put in the chips..I still come out on the bottom time and time again.

After winning the 1300 a few weeks ago i left myself 300 to play small stakes tournies with...after a few days it was gone...For the past few days I have been just throwing on 25-50$ and taking shots in $11-$22 tournies with no luck and my funds are droppping fast.

Just hoping that someone will relate to this situation and have some solid advice to what I may be doing wrong.... I know most of you will say that my bankroll management needs improvement which could be true, however I feel that when the buy in is insignificant (1$-5$) I have a hard time playing my A-game because I dont trust other opponents to be taking the game seriously. I feel I play well at the levels Im playing, just cant win.... Thanks
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10-22-2014 , 04:15 AM
I should also add that I really love the game of poker and have all the determination in the world to make this work... I'm for the first time debating giving it up but would really much rather turn it around for the better... Any advice at all will be much appreciated!
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10-22-2014 , 04:43 AM
I'm probably not the guy who should answer, but I'il give it a try from my tiny experience with MTTs.

Firstly, your own reflection about BRM is kind of true. No idea what people play with nowadays for MTTs, but like 150+ BI is a number I've seen quite often.

MTTs comes with alot of variance, wich means you need to put in alot of volume to beat them long term. (unless you get lucky and bink on shots, wich most often will result in your bink being played away if you keep on playing without a solid BRM)

I also know how u feel about playing lower BI tournaments, but with a roll of 300$ you don't really have much choices imo. It's either taking shots, and risk it all(or most of it) - or steadily try to grind it up with a solid BRM.

I have no idea how much u play, and can play, hence I won't talk about that. I guess your options are to setup a schedule to grind, with a good BRM, and than re-evalute how you're doing over a bigger sample. If you're running good you could take some shots at higher buyins if your bankroll allows for it.

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One option could be to grind the lowerstakes SNG MTTs aswell, since u play on stars. There's multiple threads about them in the forum, and alot of people seem to be grinding them for a nice profit. That could be a building block towards a roll for larger MTTs if you got the time and motivation to play them.

Last edited by SuchAChamp; 10-22-2014 at 04:49 AM.
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10-22-2014 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SuchAChamp
I'm probably not the guy who should answer, but I'il give it a try from my tiny experience with MTTs.

Firstly, your own reflection about BRM is kind of true. No idea what people play with nowadays for MTTs, but like 150+ BI is a number I've seen quite often.

MTTs comes with alot of variance, wich means you need to put in alot of volume to beat them long term. (unless you get lucky and bink on shots, wich most often will result in your bink being played away if you keep on playing without a solid BRM)

I also know how u feel about playing lower BI tournaments, but with a roll of 300$ you don't really have much choices imo. It's either taking shots, and risk it all(or most of it) - or steadily try to grind it up with a solid BRM.

I have no idea how much u play, and can play, hence I won't talk about that. I guess your options are to setup a schedule to grind, with a good BRM, and than re-evalute how you're doing over a bigger sample. If you're running good you could take some shots at higher buyins if your bankroll allows for it.

Edit:
One option could be to grind the lowerstakes SNG MTTs aswell, since u play on stars. There's multiple threads about them in the forum, and alot of people seem to be grinding them for a nice profit. That could be a building block towards a roll for larger MTTs if you got the time and motivation to play them.
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Hey guys, Im 27yrs old, I've been playing poker for the past 3 years now somewhat regularly. I've had a very strange path so far that I feel I am always battling the bad side of variance... could this be true? I play mostly low/med stake MTTS on stars but find I either can not bubble for long periods of time then I seem to make a final table once every few months... two weeks ago i finished 6th in the big 27.50, my biggest cash is winning the big 11 last august for over 13k....

That being said, I rarely can make bubbles these days. I CONSTANTLY am getting busted by players who get it in bad against me and then hit their draws once the chips are in the middle... Should I be folding KK, AA, AK etc more often!? I feel like I play a pretty solid game because I am often picking my opponents ranges off very well, but even once i determine Im ahead, put in the chips..I still come out on the bottom time and time again.

After winning the 1300 a few weeks ago i left myself 300 to play small stakes tournies with...after a few days it was gone...For the past few days I have been just throwing on 25-50$ and taking shots in $11-$22 tournies with no luck and my funds are droppping fast.

Just hoping that someone will relate to this situation and have some solid advice to what I may be doing wrong.... I know most of you will say that my bankroll management needs improvement which could be true, however I feel that when the buy in is insignificant (1$-5$) I have a hard time playing my A-game because I dont trust other opponents to be taking the game seriously. I feel I play well at the levels Im playing, just cant win.... Thanks
discipline yourself grinding low stake MTTs over a period of time.dont suddenly jump to high stakes if you win any game.

Good luck
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10-22-2014 , 11:58 PM
Sounds like you could use a solid MTT coach. PM me if interested
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10-23-2014 , 04:37 AM
Talk about frustration... I won $24K from $500 last week. All from SNG, I play $200, then $300, then $500, then$1000.

Made a mistake of playing off my head, and kept losing on the $1K but I was not playing silly. I mean I had 2 top pairs and the guy went all in with a 99 to flopped a triplets. Crazy insane hands like that...

Then another dude went all in 73os while I had QQ, I called of course, and guess who won? 73os.

Sounds to me like its more about hand counts rather than good cards... need help! Be good to speak with someone re these funny calls and all ins... Love a coach in this.
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10-23-2014 , 03:27 PM
Sorry i take your thread also for me, cause I have the same issue here. The only difference is, that I have this variance only at online poker. In live poker i have the feeling, the bad beats are much less.

On weekend I lost 6 mtts at stars with dominating hands in a row. 4 of them i was more than 70:30 ahead. All lost. I have really the feeling, there are some accounts who are not allowed to win.

Maybe I really need a good coach for a while to transfer the feeling of live tourneys to online or trust online.

For you I only can say, you are not alone.. if you find a solution, I would be happy, when you write it here....
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10-23-2014 , 06:24 PM
I personally don't think its that some accounts aren't allowed to win. I personally think it's because these guys know something other players dont, so they have an unfair advantage. My guess is handcounts.

Who would go all in with 73os in a $1K SNG (that is a $1K buy in) and win? Who would even go 73os anyway?

the mind boggles.

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Originally Posted by matrekus
Sorry i take your thread also for me, cause I have the same issue here. The only difference is, that I have this variance only at online poker. In live poker i have the feeling, the bad beats are much less.

On weekend I lost 6 mtts at stars with dominating hands in a row. 4 of them i was more than 70:30 ahead. All lost. I have really the feeling, there are some accounts who are not allowed to win.

Maybe I really need a good coach for a while to transfer the feeling of live tourneys to online or trust online.

For you I only can say, you are not alone.. if you find a solution, I would be happy, when you write it here....
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10-24-2014 , 03:49 AM
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After winning the 1300 a few weeks ago i left myself 300 to play small stakes tournies with...after a few days it was gone...For the past few days I have been just throwing on 25-50$ and taking shots in $11-$22 tournies with no luck and my funds are droppping fast
you are way underrolled for $11 MTTs.

You need $2000-$5000, not $300.
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10-24-2014 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mtgalex
you are way underrolled for $11 MTTs.

You need $2000-$5000, not $300.
This is where I get a bit confused as well. I'm glad you said this. Its not like when I left myself $300 it was all the money to my name... its just the amount I felt I would need in order to make another deep run (make sense?) of course it didn't happen, but like i said, now I'm just basically playing $11-$22 even the odd 55$, in hopes of just making a deep run..but I'm just depositing as I go, I don't see the need of having a bunch of money sitting on the site..

What your saying mtgalex, is that I would need a minimum of 111-454 buy ins to comfortably play an $11mtt? That seems a little excessive to me... are people actually that cautious? I feel like if your playing solid poker you should be able to maintain yourself off 27 buy ins...is that completely ludicrous or what guys?

This weekend I plan to play the red spade open, bigger 22 & 11, as well as a the two major Sunday Million $11 sats, If I dont cash I will be bankrolled once again. I cant be the only one who plays like this am I? If so, is this why I am not having as much success as I could be?
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10-25-2014 , 12:49 AM
Well you can sharkscope some of the best MTT guys.

It is ok to have only 30 buyins but you have to realize that you will bust that like 90% of the time even if you are good.
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