I have been playing AI bots etc for a while as practice. I have this one now and have found it useful. I am on level 2 and close to going to the next, this current model is much better than those in the past. Although it is not set up for much instruction it does well to "spare" with. Keep up the good work no doubt AI etc can beccome very usuful for poker gambling and make for more grow.

open 2bb, sb raise to 6bb, call

x,x

x/c bet of 9bb

x/c overshove into 31bb pot



can you explain what the AI's thought process is behind this line?

also, the addition of the tournament format is interesting but ultimately flawed for two reasons

1. when we fast fold the cpu stops plays and refunds chips - in the old format this was fine because it was supposed to represent a 100bb cash game where each hand was independent of the previous but this doesn't make sense in a tournament - this essentially means the AI is never chipping up and you're essentially the only one playing and ensures that any chips gained or loss are due to hands played vs the human - this gives the human a tremendous advantage once they gain a little momentum and prevents the AI from ever posing a threat

2. blinds never increase and this is one of the most crucial aspects of tournament play - this would be much more challenging if I wasn't able to simply fold fold fold and pick my spots to pick off the AI but if I or the AI were forced to start playing more aggressively to avoid getting blinded out it would be far more challenging


think it's really cool you're still updating and working on this project, keep it up

some general thoughts though:


1. ai still folds way too often preflop and becomes incredibly nitty
2 ai doesn't adjust - once the player realizes how tight they are playing it's very easy to deviate and the cpu won't change course and respond - ie the AI should 100% adapt their calling/raising range based on how the human plays

I also have a question - does each character have a different play style or are the slight differences I'm noticing instead based on other things such as position or just variance and they are all the same?

thanks

-adam

I see now blinds do go up but only after you eliminate someone (should be based on amount of hands played imo)

but you see the problem here, they are just sitting ducks awaiting being picked off and just zero challenge

i then fold and both players are refunded their chips (& share the ones I put in)

players are also doing weird things like opening for 3bb with 3bb left then folding to a raise preflop

There is a switch in settings „New Game After Fold” and it is [ON], when off, then AI-opponents play the hand till end. I’ll make it default==[ON]

Blinds increase after one is eliminated.

Each character has the same play style

About playing quality:
Playing quality improvements in this version are incremental, so changes are not big.

Q: “can you explain what the AI's thought process is behind this line?”
A: It is all about players hand ranges, decision trees and determining weight of certain decisions. I’ll contribute more to this type of discussion after making the intended big changes/[improvements I hope] to the decision algorithm.

At the moment, I’m working on UI improvement and also building some fun UI features, to make PokerAlfie more attractive for millions of Play Money users – They demand in another way: If they have fun - they will play it (regardless of winning or losing or play level of AI). For lot of them the play level of PokerAlfie is unreachable.

After I’m finished with UI improvement, I’ll work on decision algorithm.

Thanks a lot to adam/rickroll and everybody else for using and discussing about PokerAlfie !

PS
I’m open for any kind of comment and/or suggestion

thanks for the feedback, very interesting and glad to see you're still developing this project

PokerAlfie v3.0 with many AI Poker Sharks and Fish:

I haven't reported anything about PokerAlfie for about a year.

These are the improvements that have been made during this time:

- There are now 3 AIs to choose from in the app:
1. Poker AI v3.1
This is the AI that Rickroll played against, but with a few very small improvements.
2. Poker AI v4.0
This is the complete opposite of v3.1 – very aggressive
The skill level is about the same as version 3.1 or maybe even slightly weaker.
3. Poker AI v5.0
It is a more balanced and stronger player than v3.1 and v4.0. For many users, v5.0 presents a much greater challenge than older versions.

- Analysis - Feature:
Analysis offers the possibility to replay any poker hand you want and ask the AI for advice and suggestions in every situation of the hand. Any hand means: a
hand played against PokerAlfie, or a hand you have played elsewhere, or a hand played by others in a live poker tournament, or …

Android Version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ech.pokeralfie

Windows Version
https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9N7Q05F4SLZ0

Windows Version – direct link to Windows Store
ms-windows-store://pdp/?productid=9N7Q05F4SLZ0

How strong is Poker AI v5.0? Here are some comments from other users:

1. “
I've played 1111 hands so far (spread over 10 tournaments with 2 of them being wins and these are my initial impressions:
• I agree with you that v5 seems a lot more balanced, especially compared to v4, which I thought was too aggressive. In v4, the strategy that seemed to work best was to rarely or never bluff (fold to most aggression if you have nothing) but then when you have stuff, you can be passive and let them bet into you to make the pot large. At the end you can bet large or raise and they'll often call. With v5, I found that I needed to bluff to win, since it often (correctly) folded when I bet a good hand (and I couldn't rely on their aggression to build the pot).
• So far, I think v5 is more fun to play against. When I played against v3 and v4, my play style was somewhat formulaic, but with v5 I have to put effort into thinking about whether I'm making a good bluff. Maybe if I play several thousand more hands I'll start to find more robotic patterns like I did for v3 and v4.
• There are still some strange issues with calling patterns
”

2. “
Hey there! Nice app.

Played 5k hands and won at 6bb/100, started losing big until I found it's weaknesses.

It will make crazy calls against overbets on the river x3 or x4, a lot of them on paired boards with things like K high on a board where plenty of hands were possible. So easy to get a lot of value from your strong hands.

If you found a way to fix that, it would be amazing and harder to beat.

Great UI, regards!
”
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...53/?highlight=

Future development:
I’ll try to improve the algorithm of v5.0 - especially issues with calling. If I make progress I’ll add a new improved version v6.0 to app.

nice, got a new laptop so downloading now to try out the new version

I just published the new version v5.2, it has new Poker AI v5.2.
AI v5.2 improves the calling issue on the river.

hi alex, just toyed around with it a little

ai still does some funky things

it doesn't appear to properly adjust to the size of the wager

ie MP will open to 3 it folds around to bb who minclicks it up to 7 and mp will fold

this is almost never a fold


ai also tends to struggle with relative hand strength



this was a tiny pot that emma decided she had the nuts on with K high flush on a double paired board and not only reraised but also called an overjam on the river

there's also basically zero multiway pots, it just never happens, not even with cooler situations

i stand corrected

yeah you've definitely fixed the no multiway pots problem of the past, seems I just ran into an issue of low sample size earlier where it was only going heads up like in the past

this was interesting, mike raised Daniel's cbet on the flop and when Daniel shoved mike called with K high

seems like a punt in a vacuum but I like it, shows that Mike was willing to bluff and then understood he was pot committed to call off the remainder - I think older version here doesn't make that play, or if it does, snap folds for just a little more