I think everyone here in the coaching forum would love there to be MORE of these types of guys ( the original OP & first poster). Seriously guys DON't take coaching, & please post where you DO play & what limits.

I have never coached for $ but I know a number of people who do and it's pretty clear that most of them don't do it purely for money. There are other reasons people take jobs than monetary reward. I've made pretty good $/hour playing poker but still made time to be a physics/math tutor at $8/hour, go figure.

Wins thread.

OP, Please don't tell Tiger Woods that hiring Butch Harmon as his golf coach was a waste of time and money...

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Sorry dude but this is ******ed in so many levels you dont even have a clue.

Quoted so it gets noticed b/c it made me lol

Might as well coin flip a 50 50 with your 300 at the table. At least you have a chance on making an extra 300.
I don't see how people think their time is worth 300 an hour. What college did they get their degree for this from? The price is 300 per hour... so how much do you think you will really learn in a single hour...
Ill coach anyone for 20 an hour. Ill sit watch them play. Tell them the move I would make every single hand. fold fold fold AQ hmmm maybe ill raise 3x the blind... o 1 limper make that 4x.

sums it up perfectly

also

all u coachs walk a legal tightrope imo.

if u coach someone with the promise or suggestion it will help their game and help u win, and then they lose alot/ game appears to get worse. Then they could SUE YOU FOR DAMAGES.

i have been over this is a lawyer (a proper one, not a 2p2 law school drop out), and they advised that u wud be risking alot to do coaching.

so all u coaches, or wannabe coaches, beware!

just a heads up for u guys

This would be the case:

Player gets coaching from 'top player'.

He then loses $50k

He then sues 'top player' for $50k plus coaching fees, plus money for mental anguish.

top player has no defence and has to pay up

Right.

No you havent.

And **** off. Thx.

yes i have

No you haven't

You think that a judge or jury would say that because you lost money gambling, and that someone who was trying to help you get better would be responsible for said losses?

congrats on being stupid yo.

OP can't afford coaching and is obviously green with envy towards those who can and decide to.

Interestingly enough, despite not being able to afford coaching OP can afford lawyer consultations regarding the coaching he cannot afford.

Irony

BTW OP I'm just teasing so don't get your panties in a bunch.

FWIW, the reason why coaching is good for a lot of people is because you receive personal attention to your game. You receive personal attention to your thought process. There are plenty of players who are watching a ton of videos and posting hands but not absorbing the right information. How many players see or know the right play when they're going over hands post session, but in the moment at the table they make a less than optimal play? A lot I would say. The reason? Your thought process is much different when you're at the table vs. when you're reviewing. A coach with a lot of experience will be able to help you recognize what's wrong with your game specifically regardless of what you absorb watching vids/reviewing. It's the personal attention to your game and decisions that matters.

Are there good coaches and bad coaches? Sure. Just like every other service offered out there in the world there's a ton of choices and options, research and find what fits you. Obviously with cases like Potripper looming about people have a reason to be on the hate, just do your homework and you'll be fine.

Coaching is what you make of it. It's like buying a new box of crayons with a ton of awesome cool colors, if you decide to use the new stuff your pictures will change, if you stick with the Chrome and Seaweed crayons you've always used, your pictures will stay the same and your new color equity will go down the tubes.

in a civil court then yes. a judge could easily rule for the broke person who did their nuts on online poker and order the guy taking money off him with the promise of improving his game to pay some damages. its simple logic

and also, who knows better:

1, you (poker player/coach)
2, lawyers

hmmmm, tough one

[x] did their nuts on online poker = simple logic

About poker?

I know a lot more then most lawyers.

Yeah, & it's so obvious what a loser that Tiger Woods is. The Harmon guy REALLY screwed him over.

guess u'll be ok provided the judge is a $1k nl online grinder then

Correct friend. As long as the debate stays in the limit of flops, turns, and rivers, I will have an edge. If the debate strays to legal processes then I will get owned.

this is my point exactly, so i think u just owned urself

i only mentioned legal issues because its something coaches shud be aware of. no need to hate me for trying to help u all out. if u cant see the risk or the logic behind what i am saying then maybe u shud try a little hard to understand it and do some more research

oo and btw, i will challenge any coach to a hu game (nl50 and below). wud be a good oppurtunity to win 15 buy ins and move up

lol

I've spent hours lately coaching my kids on new color equity. And it's really starting to pay off for them.

So obv, coaching works well.

this would be funny to watch