lol coaching...

If you need a coach for playing poker, consider switching to solitaire

haha cheers, and yeah this is bang on imo

well i figured this thead was going to offend 1 of 2 categories. Coaches or peripheral hsnl wannabe gaylord suck up artists that want aejones & crew as their msn buddies

yep this is the sales pitch if your one of the parasites, but good sports coaches have indisputable pedigrees.

They have played the game professionally and successfully so they have tons of experience. They retire mainly when age catches up with them and generally possess recognised professional coaching and mentoring qualifications.

And they get tangible results for their students. look at Freddy Roach

in contrast most poker coaches have no recognised professional coaching/mentoring qualifications, they have terrible track records as players, no tangible way of tracking if they are successful or not as coaches, as most pupils fail, fall out of the game and wont be reading this thread to defend my point


many thanks fella. ive always wanted a pet nvg crotch monkey for a coach

theres threads on this site that say all there is to say about pretty much every issue you will come across as a player


yeah this cool m8. winning players that do a bit of social coaching here and there. Im all for that (i do a bit of this myself at the cost of a pint). My issue is with the career con artists



i like to take that as a compliment but your incorrectly assuming i cant beat the game anymore.

I agree most are cockroaches.I know a friend who got coached and coach
learned a lot from my friend than him.ultimatly coach started improving his winrate and pretty much nothing changed for my friend.

I am. Well nearly.

interesting post, hopefully epic thread, dont agree with your standpoint but do you think the same holds true for cr/dc video coaches (a chunk of whom havent made money in a while)?

personally i like the fact coaching gives variance-free income and as a student also i find it pretty interesting to see other styles/lines in action (even if im paying for the priv, its a far faster way to gain information than reading 1000 posts in msnl). I think often we get into a relatively small bubble of our own lines, when in reality the possibilities are huge.

Coach me pls op.

Anyone considered that maybe those coaching have figured that it's easier than actually playing poker?

wp

lol swongs

I wouldn't consider over 300 buyins as extremely similar results.. But that's just because I'm a nit amirite?

I agree with the OP. People who coach generally do so because they cannot sustain an hourly rate equal to what they charge. And coaches that are big winners just tell you the stuff that's in the poker videos which you can get in unlimited supply for $30 a month anyway.

I'm skeptical of coaching in general.

cockacoaches. get it right

Hands can't hit what your eyes can't see

this is awesome.

what about training sites, if i pay $30 for month subscription to learn from video instructors, am i cockroach too? i'm pretty lazy, like op said, but i'm kinda getting better at putting volume in and learning stuff.

you dont understand the point of what you posted. that graph is poking fun at the 'fact' that the only difference between 100$/hr coaches and those who pay them is variance, but over a significant sample the good players win and the bad players lose, why do i even bother with this.

I agree with OP to an extent, but I must say coaching would somewhat fasttrack you to becoming a competent poker player but NOT and I repeat NOT into an fn supertar!

OP what about craps coaching? is that a scam too? if not can you point me towards a good coach?

ram a twenty down the fittest cocktail birds knickers before you start to ensure a constant supply of alcohol

try to shout "goo shooooter" . a lot

cockacoaches ITT

Someone would actually pay for coaching to someone who has 135k hands sample with less than 5ptbb/100 (yes, even the biggest winner has) winrate at NL100? How stupid are people?

bit to much lines

i got some coaching and i think it helped my game. the coach made me realize some stuff on my own just by asking questions and discussing my answers with me, i didn't figure it out on my own before.

i guess a friend who you can discuss poker with does the same thing, he doesnt have to play better than you i think.

i do agree though, that there are probably lots of guys who run good and then do some coaching even though they are not especially qualified. also there never seem to be bad reviews of coaches, this might be because people like to think that their investment was good and therefore are biased to think that the coaching was helpful (which is hard to prove or disprove).

nice and extremely generalized comment, OP. Coaching is far from being a scam, I dunno where you get that from. I'm sure there's some bad apples out there but I've coached dozens of people and have been coached myself and each and every time the student got a ton out of it.

If Tiger Woods has a coach for his swing and Lebron listens to his team's coaches, I am fairly certain most poker players could benefit from a coach as well.

Shhhh ! ! Like all scams, they only really work if the mark doesn't know he's been taken.