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01-29-2008 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DMoogle
CR just introduced a one-day pass that you can buy to try out the site.
NVM
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01-30-2008 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AceCR9
can we please ban OP ? this is a completely biased review, and is basically an advertisement for leggopoker.

or at least move this to the Training site forum where this belongs.
fwiw to my knowledge he isnt affiliated with leggo @ all

leggo obviously appreciates his thoughts, however Taylor C. is obv way way way way good @ videos
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01-30-2008 , 02:27 AM
I will be making a review of deucescracked.com as I have signed up in the last few days.

The comparison will include all three sites: Cardrunners, Leggopoker and Deucescracked.

cheers
Boon
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01-30-2008 , 01:12 PM
I'm a DC member for a month and seen all the videos. Been/am a member on 3 other training sites and DC is a clear winner - instructional value of their stuff is incredible. Looking forward to the review, boondoggle .
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01-30-2008 , 01:48 PM
I was kinda considering leggopoker but I'm sick and tired of a certain someone constantly shilling for them around here, every other post of his is promoting another leggo coach or the like.
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01-30-2008 , 04:06 PM
why would you watch training vids? lol
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01-30-2008 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd
I was kinda considering leggopoker but I'm sick and tired of a certain someone constantly shilling for them around here, every other post of his is promoting another leggo coach or the like.
LOL?
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02-02-2008 , 06:35 PM
What do you guys think of Andrew Wiggins?

Imo, he is a mediocre TAG that doesnt seem to be able to beat stakes higher than Nl400.Peter principle of poker fully applies here, unfortunately.He is a nice guy, he tryes and gives a good effort but he is just not a player that is able to beat the higher stakes.

Just watched his 77th video, and was highly dissapointed.Tons of OOP calls with marginal hands, failure to adjust to some LAG owning him properly, he kept trying to trap him and waited for a premium hand and obviously the guy didn't fell for it.

Then, Andrew made a "hero" call with 33 on 8584 double suited board on the turn in 3bet pot vs dude's nut FD, 2 overs and obv 5 and 4 to counterfeit , and kept referring to it as a "suckout" all the time, when it was almost a flip even on the turn.

Just kept calling with low pp on low boards oop "i think my hand is good, so i'll call".923 board, 2 spades.Turn is obv Ks - "This is not a good card, i will just try to show it down".
Duh...

Such a difference between Taylor, CTS, aba and him...
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02-02-2008 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Black winter day
What do you guys think of Andrew Wiggins?

Imo, he is a mediocre TAG that doesnt seem to be able to beat stakes higher than Nl400.Peter principle of poker fully applies here, unfortunately.He is a nice guy, he tryes and gives a good effort but he is just not a player that is able to beat the higher stakes.

Just watched his 77th video, and was highly dissapointed.Tons of OOP calls with marginal hands, failure to adjust to some LAG owning him properly, he kept trying to trap him and waited for a premium hand and obviously the guy didn't fell for it.

Then, Andrew made a "hero" call with 33 on 8584 double suited board on the turn in 3bet pot vs dude's nut FD, 2 overs and obv 5 and 4 to counterfeit , and kept referring to it as a "suckout" all the time, when it was almost a flip even on the turn.

Just kept calling with low pp on low boards oop "i think my hand is good, so i'll call".923 board, 2 spades.Turn is obv Ks - "This is not a good card, i will just try to show it down".
Duh...

Such a difference between Taylor, CTS, aba and him...
word up. they need to not make any more andrew videos. he's a mediocre player and doesn't give any insight.
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02-02-2008 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Keyser.
why would you watch training vids? lol
Yeah, no ****.
Entrepenureal (can't spell it) idea: A shortstacker video training site.
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02-03-2008 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kleath
Deucescracked, dethroning the Kings of old...
QFT
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02-03-2008 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BGnight
Yeah, no ****.
Entrepenureal (can't spell it) idea: A shortstacker video training site.
Yeah this wouldnt ruin the games in 2 weeks
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02-03-2008 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Keyser.
why would you watch training vids? lol
1: Theres still some stuff from omg real poker you can apply to shortstacking

2: Seeing the tendencies of the people making the video (since I play the same games as some of them).

3: I show up in some of the vids and want to see how they play against me.

For a few BBs its worth it.
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02-03-2008 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd
For a few buy-ins its worth it.
Couldn't resist.
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02-03-2008 , 08:25 AM
I'm very proud of what we've been able to do at DeucesCracked.com in such a short amount of time. I think our content and presentation is going to force a paradigm shift in poker instructional videos and I'm thrilled to be a part of that.

For those of you bashing Andrew @ CR, cut the guy some slack, seriously. Not everyone is a world class player like CTS or Taylor, but that doesn't mean that others can't learn from him. If I had to guess I'd say an overwhelming majority of the CR members are playing stakes below 1/2nl and certainly Andrew can AT LEAST teach people at those stakes, if not higher.

I think it's fine for paying customers to voice concerns and give feedback for the product they are paying for, but to bash the guy because there's a huge difference between how good at poker he is compared to CTS just seems really douchey at best and down right mean/insulting at worst. Plus, I'm sure there are some better venues to voice any displeasure besides the zoo on 2+2.

WoT
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02-03-2008 , 08:32 AM
join both if you play 100nl+ imho. doesn't really matter which i think it is better coz i think its wayyy better to be on both. but leggo probably has the edge. the analysis is more detailed, things are better explained i think.
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02-03-2008 , 12:05 PM
If you play 100NL + its probably worth your while being a member of CR, deucescracked and Leggo poker as they all have excellent teachers and the monthly fees are kinda small relatively. No one site is better than the others imo if you just play NLHE. They all have top notch content. If you play various games though obviously CR would be the main choice, and if you play MTT's only probably PXF would be the best bet.

That said CR has got a lot more instructors recently and by now they are almost coming down with them and still release the same one video a day. This means that sometimes it is far between videos from instructors you want to watch or games you play. Whilst it is good that they have a diverse portfolio of instructors and content it sometimes feels like there is a hell of a lot of filler.
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02-03-2008 , 02:29 PM
Taylor is probably one of the best video instructors. I learned so much from you, thank you Taylor!

I subscribe both sites, CR and leggo. I must say they are all great and well worth the investment. I like Greg's video a lot. Kind of different style. I don't think you could go wrong with either site. Right now the edge goes to CR because they have a much much bigger video pool. However I do think leggo has great potential. Greg's video alone is worth the money and they release new videos very often.
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02-03-2008 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverIsMyFriend
Taylor is probably one of the best video instructors. I learned so much from you, thank you Taylor!

I subscribe both sites, CR and leggo. I must say they are all great and well worth the investment. I like Greg's video a lot. Kind of different style. I don't think you could go wrong with either site. Right now the edge goes to CR because they have a much much bigger video pool. However I do think leggo has great potential. Greg's video alone is worth the money and they release new videos very often.
In your opinion, what site would be the best for sit-n-go videos?
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02-03-2008 , 09:02 PM
There is an instructional site dedicated to SNG's called SNG icons. I assume its really good as bigjoe and Spacegravy both are instructors there.
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02-03-2008 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BGnight
Yeah, no ****.
Entrepenureal (can't spell it) idea: A shortstacker video training site.


I'd totally watch
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02-03-2008 , 11:07 PM
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In some he uses profanity and some people may be offended by this but I think it adds an element of realism that is missing in cardrunners.
Try the EM2 video.
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02-04-2008 , 12:50 AM
Hey Guys,

I'm not here to pimp our product but I just wanted to say thanks for all the compliments about my videos, and, more importantly, the overall feedback of the site.
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02-20-2008 , 06:01 AM
OK, here is the follow up review that includes duecescracked.

duecescracked has the feel of couple pros getting together and creating a site because, "well Tay did it and so can we!" Their vids are not DRM protected so you can download all of the vids during their 7 day trial and cancel and be out nothing..lol.

Krantz left cardrunners to join duecesccracked (I think?) and its obvious that he is very good but the only content he does is the HU vids vs another successful pro and I cannot tell if its a lvling vid or what?

Save your money and join a different site. On the surface duecescracked appears to be good but fails miserably.

I just finished watching a few vids at cardrunners and they are not that inspiring/good/worth watching. The exception is cts's vid. Stinger/Cts need to make more vids. I will probably cancel my cardrunners membership as its not worth $400/yr.

Leggopoker is right now out of the three making the best vids. By best I mean content and entertainment value. Clayton's last vid is content packed and hilarious, "Lets take more of idiotray's free money"--awesome.

Peeps will say, "you need instaban for shilling for leggo" but it is not true. I am just saying for people who are spending $400/yr for training vids--they should get some new ideas/content instead of the same stuff repackaged by different people in different vids.

Rankings for online training vids:

1. leggopoker - just better content/more entertaining vids right now

2. cardrunners - Cts/Stinger need to make more vids else this site is bleh. If you look at the rankings of recent vids, cts received some of the highest because he is very good at making videos.

3. duecescracked - horrid--not worth free membership. There is a reason they do not DRM protect their vids..lol.


cheers
Boon
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02-20-2008 , 06:44 AM
boon,

what makes you qualified to try and persuade anyone else one way or the other?

and what about all the other sites?
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