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05-23-2019 , 11:13 PM
Did a couple of quick reads of the bible today, and man its amazing. Night and day from the version I bought 3 months ago. Exceeded my expectations!!

AFAIK, on rangeconverter.com monker ranges for 6max are $899, but this preflop is less then half the price, similar/just as good ranges according to MMA, and more importantly it has explanations and exploits!!!!!!!!!! Highly recommend buying this bible ASAP before they raise the price on it in the future.
05-24-2019 , 05:24 AM
Thanks Katon, appreciate the review!
I spent over 100 hours and around 2 inches of hair line on it, so you better like it
05-24-2019 , 07:46 AM
Agree with katon completely. Between the quality of the updated and first version are worlds apart. It is obvious that BTS has put a lot effort to provide the customers with an excellent product. They have fulfilled my expectations by far.

The content of the updated version is much more structured and systematic than before and most importantly they covered the most frequent preflop spots as advertised. Beside the already solid RFI, BB vs RFI ranges, the reader now also gets ranges/charts for 3bet, 4bet and 5bet spots as well as an example of a squeeze range. For most spots adjustments/exploits are presented.

The price is imo now more than fair and I would recommend the PFB in this state to anyone looking for a product to improve their preflop game.
05-24-2019 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill Bluffthespot preflop bible
Thanks Katon, appreciate the review!
I spent over 100 hours and around 2 inches of hair line on it, so you better like it


2 inches of hairlineBluffthespot preflop bible
05-26-2019 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kockar Bluffthespot preflop bible
Agree with katon completely. Between the quality of the updated and first version are worlds apart. It is obvious that BTS has put a lot effort to provide the customers with an excellent product. They have fulfilled my expectations by far.

The content of the updated version is much more structured and systematic than before and most importantly they covered the most frequent preflop spots as advertised. Beside the already solid RFI, BB vs RFI ranges, the reader now also gets ranges/charts for 3bet, 4bet and 5bet spots as well as an example of a squeeze range. For most spots adjustments/exploits are presented.

The price is imo now more than fair and I would recommend the PFB in this state to anyone looking for a product to improve their preflop game.
Thanks for the positive review
06-19-2019 , 05:36 PM
Hello, first of all congratz MMA for the content. It's a very good material overall but for the price i expected some more details in deviation.

I will do a review based on what i felt while studying it.

Many spots are generalizing defenses merging some positions.

Ex: On page 29 we have the UTG defense against 3bets when OOP, but the ranges people are 3betting against us will probably be different from MP to BTN, so i'm afraid using the same strategy for both positions will not be the most profitable action.

On page 30 we have UTG Defense vs SB and BB. Again i have the same problem. At least on the games I play (most 100z and some 200z) people have total different ranges from this positions (mostly underbluffing BB)

I'm missing defense vs range charts, We have general charts assuming people will raise the same size and same range as us, in reality some people are way tighter or 3b/4b way larger.

Some examples ilustrating some of this deviations would be a great complement to this material. We know we should fold more, but the problem is that i have no idea for example what should deviate from calling a 7bb oop or a 8.5bb oop when open raising, or how to defend vs a BB who only 3bets 3-4% against EP/MP.
06-20-2019 , 06:48 PM
Its funny they knock down Galfond and try to make him look bad on a twitch stream saying he plays holdem improperly and i had to stop watching after about 15m (he actually was correct based on his explanations and these guys were wrong) and then they make a pre flop bible which is pretty hilarious and then can't even do it correctly. How does a poker pro mess up pre flop ranges? Its the easiest thing to do correctly. YOu can't go knockin phil galfond if you can't do pre flop ranges properly. Its abc123 stuff. The fact you have to fix it= should be embarrassed. You guys gotta make sure things are done correctly especially for 240 bucks or your gonna get roasted by poker community. Hopefully you guys learn from this. I am gonna check out this pre flop bible if someone can send me a link so i can read about it. I never heard of anything like this before pre flop bible? Pre flop is so simple how can there be a bible on it?
06-20-2019 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches Bluffthespot preflop bible
Its funny they knock down Galfond and try to make him look bad on a twitch stream saying he plays holdem improperly and i had to stop watching after about 15m (he actually was correct based on his explanations and these guys were wrong) and then they make a pre flop bible which is pretty hilarious and then can't even do it correctly. How does a poker pro mess up pre flop ranges? Its the easiest thing to do correctly. YOu can't go knockin phil galfond if you can't do pre flop ranges properly. Its abc123 stuff. The fact you have to fix it= should be embarrassed. You guys gotta make sure things are done correctly especially for 240 bucks or your gonna get roasted by poker community. Hopefully you guys learn from this. I am gonna check out this pre flop bible if someone can send me a link so i can read about it. I never heard of anything like this before pre flop bible? Pre flop is so simple how can there be a bible on it?


Yall didnt catch the memo? The new preflop bible is fly af dude 100 cop that stuff real quick for real my dude
06-21-2019 , 11:44 AM
@regtard

All of the charts have deviations included, its impossible to give you charts for every spot and every different range your playerpool might be 3betting /4betting etc.

As our own preflop ranges will not only depend on the size and range villain is openraising, but also on his postflop tendencies. So we would need as many different charts as there are players in the world. The preflop bible is a guide that should help you to have solid ranges against the most commonly used strategies and also give you some ideas on how to adapt by using our recommended deviations.


@ibury,...


-Price 240$, now it's 499$. Poker is a game in which information is very valuable and the more people have the information have, the less valuable the information is. The target group for the PFB are nl50+ players who are taking the game very serious. We think it is a fair price and worth it.

-Knocking on Phil Galfond. I am very sure that everyone at BTS is having tons of respect for Phil. He is an online legend and maybe the best poker video instructor in history.
When it comes to NLH, I am very sure that Phil would be the last person to claim that he is on a level of the absolute best NLH players in the world at this point in time. That should not take anything away from his accomplishments in the world of poker and him as a great poker mind in general.
06-21-2019 , 03:41 PM
you guys raised the price. geez. this is for 50nl and up? i thought this would be something for micro grind players. How can pre flop be for advanced players? I will just have to check it out.
06-24-2019 , 10:06 AM
Update: Very good product now.
I would say it is for nl 25+.
Why not realising this product from the beginning..
11-30-2019 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches Bluffthespot preflop bible
Its funny they knock down Galfond and try to make him look bad on a twitch stream saying he plays holdem improperly and i had to stop watching after about 15m (he actually was correct based on his explanations and these guys were wrong) and then they make a pre flop bible which is pretty hilarious and then can't even do it correctly. How does a poker pro mess up pre flop ranges? Its the easiest thing to do correctly. YOu can't go knockin phil galfond if you can't do pre flop ranges properly. Its abc123 stuff. The fact you have to fix it= should be embarrassed. You guys gotta make sure things are done correctly especially for 240 bucks or your gonna get roasted by poker community. Hopefully you guys learn from this. I am gonna check out this pre flop bible if someone can send me a link so i can read about it. I never heard of anything like this before pre flop bible? Pre flop is so simple how can there be a bible on it?
MMAsherdog never knocks Galfond. MMA always pays great respect to Galfond.

MMA does point out the game has changed over the years and every top player currently playing NLH on a regular basis has grown as knowledge has increased and and knowledge has become more accurate.
01-06-2021 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BluffTheSpot Bluffthespot preflop bible
Hi Kockar,

MMA and 2 other guys (who are responsible for the design) worked the last 2 months on updating the PFB. It was clearly a mistake by us to claim that we only need some days to update the PFB because it was clearly way more time investment needed than expected. The core of the update is finished for some weeks, but at the same time, we wanted to make 100% we launch the updated version without any small mistake. So over the last 3-4 weeks, we ended up sending it to a couple of our coaches and let them give us feedback in order to make 100% clear that everything is on the level that is expected from a BTS product.

The updated version will for sure be launched next week.

Modifications

-Opening sizes more visible on the section OPEN RAISE.
-Progressive ranges growing from Open raise to facing a 3bet as 3bet facing a 4bet
-Deviations from the strategy
-Made a note to when taking reference on bet sizes (so the reader knows where to find the information)
-New charts expanded and explained (4bet + 5bet charts)
-Flatting and 3bet range from Button
-Big blind defence expanded.
-Gramma mistakes and notes repeated

In which version of the Preflop Bible is this chart? What is the difference between the PFB and the lite version and is there a 3.0 version released?
08-22-2021 , 04:39 PM
Hi,

I was trying to find this product on your website but could only find it as part of a bundle. Is the preflop bible available for purchase?

Many thanks
08-24-2021 , 12:14 PM
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Hi,

I was trying to find this product on your website but could only find it as part of a bundle. Is the preflop bible available for purchase?

Many thanks
The PFB Vol 4 (2021) is only available in the store as part of the Ultimate Course.


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In which version of the Preflop Bible is this chart? What is the difference between the PFB and the lite version, and is there a 3.0 version released?
The main difference is that the PFB Lite doesn't include 4bet and 5betting ranges.
Also, in the current 4.0 (2021) version of the PFB, the opening, flatting, and 3betting ranges got adjusted a tiny bit.

Last edited by BluffTheSpot; 08-24-2021 at 12:20 PM.
08-25-2021 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffTheSpot Bluffthespot preflop bible
The PFB Vol 4 (2021) is only available in the store as part of the Ultimate Course.




The main difference is that the PFB Lite doesn't include 4bet and 5betting ranges.
Also, in the current 4.0 (2021) version of the PFB, the opening, flatting, and 3betting ranges got adjusted a tiny bit.
I was just interested in the bible. Many thanks.
09-06-2021 , 07:14 PM
I recently purchased your BTS preflop bible lite version and had a question. Regarding 3bet defense you recommend defending 50% of our RFI range in position and 45% out of position. When we decide to 4bet we should aim for a composition of 50% bluffs and 50% value.

Would this same concept apply to us defending against villains 4 bet?

If this is the case then we would want to defend 50% of our 3bet range in position and 45% out of position. And our 5 bets would be comprised of 50% value and 50% bluffs?

      
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