I'm pretty sure I read that the Nevada state law in question was originally drafted to ban hardware/software used in live games such as card counters. The law doesn't specifically ban HUDs online, nor was that it's original intent, it's just being used that way for now until the language is changed, if ever.

Also, while WSOP's TOS in Nevada says that HUDs are not permitted, the TOS for Michigan clearly implies that they are permitted. So if H2N or some other company has a workaround for hand histories, then all's good I guess.

I wouldn't be surprised if a private stable already has the capability with all their RTA bullsht.



As for the unfair advantage for Nevada players, I heard them complaining that there are no more HUDs, which implies that their older software likely saved hand histories (even if they couldn't use them during play) So they're already going to have an advantage over us when the player pools are combined with Michigan.

Also, Sharkscope has WSOP data for MI, PA, and NJ, but I don't see anything for NV.

The NV software doesn't store HH (unless that changed since I last played it)

Actually someone already got caught using a HUD there.

https://www.pokertube.com/article/to...ng-hud-on-wsop

The full text of the NV statute is below. Could be argued either way that the language covers it, it's kind of broad.

NRS 465.075  Use or possession of device, software or hardware to obtain advantage at playing game prohibited.  It is unlawful for any person to use, possess with the intent to use or assist another person in using or possessing with the intent to use any computerized, electronic, electrical or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment or any game that is offered by a licensee or affiliate, including, without limitation, a device that:

1.  Projects the outcome of the game;

2.  Keeps track of cards played or cards prepared for play in the game;

3.  Analyzes the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or

4.  Analyzes the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game,

Ê except as may be made available as part of an approved game or otherwise permitted by the Commission.

WSOP NV play just shows up on sharkscope under 888(NJ)

Right, but that demonstrates they were getting hand histories one way or another, and that was my point.


Thanks

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I read somewhere that PokerStars will be limited only to players in Michigan and New Jersey, while WSOP will have players from the entire compact.

After reading this, I messaged PokerStars chat and asked why this was and I'm not sure he knew about it. He said that due to legal issues, Michigan was limited to only players within Michigan. When I told him that WSOP had access to all of the compact states, he balked. So, I told him that he could Google it. It was obviously that he was frustrated and said that if it were to happen that Michigan was able to players out of the state, they would let the players know.

The way the law was written, Michigan players can only currently play other Michigan players. It will be updated next month. (I live 13 minutes from the capitol bldg where it will be enhanced)

That's wonderful! I just saw an article that said Pennsylvania might join up, as well as Connecticut and West Virginia. It seems that with more states joining up, it's only a matter of time before it becomes nationwide.

Hello,
New to WSOP online in Michigan.
Playing on a windows10 laptop.

In the omaha plo there is a dancing rabbit that seems to pop up at times and i cant make it go away.
Support was no help. Is there a way to make this go away?

Also I asked support about my poker table background does flashing at times almost like a camera flash.
i cant figure out why this happens.
Ive never seen anything more annoying.

Any help appreciated.

thank you

It will 'rabbit hunt' what the board would have been if you click it. I do not see an option to disable it in the settings.

When Michigan connects (timeframe unknown) with the other legal states that also want to connect with one another, each operator will have different player pools.

Breakdown of the combined player pools (when MI connects):
Pokerstars: MI & NJ
WSOP: NJ, NV, DE, MI
BetMGM/PartyPoker: NJ & MI

Without more context, it's likely the extra bonus pop up notification. Check your tickets...

The flash is when you get a free ticket.

That is your AV ROI which differs significantly from your actual ROI.


Ya, that's about all I've played on that site as well. You'll likely need a much larger sample size, and traffic is still relatively low.




If that was the case then your ITM would be 100%


But gl with your poker ventures, glad you seem to be having fun!

I believe it was disabled after I disabled the animations in game display options, but I can't remember for sure. I have since enabled animations and the rabbit is back, but I've gotten used to it so it doesn't really bug me anymore. I haven't disabled it again so I can't confirm if that's the solution yet.

Ya, this happens to me too, but I've finally have gotten used to it. I noticed sometimes that it starts flashing like the paparazzi when your time to act is almost up. So maybe it's there to get your attention? Or maybe it's some kind of mind control thing, lol.

If it means that you've gotten a tourney ticket like some here are suggesting, then I should have at least 250,000 tickets by now, but unfortunately that's not the case.

I believe what they're referring to are the flashing spot lights with that big blue head flying around passing out those blast tickets.

I'm about to turn off animations and find out Also, my tables flash between hands like a camera too....it's annoying.

As others have mentioned, go into settings (click the gear icon), click "game display" tab, uncheck either or both "enable animations" and "enable extra visual and animation features", then save and close.

Since you brought it up, NJ has three Party Poker skins that share player pools I believe - BetMGM NJ, Borgota NJ, and Party Poker NJ.

Does anyone know if Borgota is going to allow MI players at some point? Otherwise NJ Players will be able to have three seperate player accounts (one per skin) and we'll be stuck with just one when we're all combined. Not sure I'm comfortable with that. . .

Anyone else have issues cashing out on wsop.com MI? I requested a cashout and they forced me to send a copy of a bank statement with the full account number or a voided check. I get online statements and they don't show the full account number. Luckily, I had a check so I voided it and I also had to send proof of my paypal account and each credit card used to deposit. I think it's ridiculous that they require this much verification just to cashout. Also, the time frame for cashouts is much slower than MGM. Not happy with the cashout process thus far at wsop.com.

Another drawback is I had a big cash in one of the MTTs and they withheld the winnings from my account for a bit for tax reasons. They said if I was a non-us citizen they would withhold 34.25% of the winnings. I am a US citizen so they eventually released the winnings into my account. I just assumed at the end of the year I would get information from the site if I was up on the year for how much and pay taxes based on that. Or I could look at my bank statements. If anyone has some insight on this I would appreciate it.

I'm not sure I would call it issues, we all have to verify whether it's the way you did or I sent a screenshot of paypal account as instructed. It takes 2-3 days like you said for withdrawals and yes, Pokerstars is faster but I don't need the cash in a day anyways.

As far as the tax reason, my understanding is anything over $5,000 should be withheld and is law for MI whether online or brick/mortar. You will get a W2-G for each tourney and here is response I got from PokerStars support on that:

A W-2G is a federal tax form that we are required to send to players in relation to each reportable event that the player has during a tax year. It will be triggered by any of the following reportable events:

1. Poker Tournaments: in the event that you win more than $5,000, net of your initial buy-in, in a single tournament (or chain of tournaments (satellites) if the prize from winning the first tournament is entry to the second tournament and they all take place online).

To each his own, but I would rather they take taxes on a $5K win. Actually based on information above, anytime I win a Tourney over $5K I'm taking out 50% and holding it to pay taxes in a fund I have. We all do taxes differently, but that is my plan to cover it and have some left over.

I assume your win was over $5K - I have won smaller than that and it was not an issue. Congrats on your win !

If you need tax information, I would search on Pokerstars MI thread or 2+2 - people discuss how to claim win/losses etc.

I exclusively use paypal for deposits and withdrawals as it seems to be the most convenient across the board. They also recommend that you have a bank account linked to Paypal in order to process a withdrawal (which I do) and all withdrawals (under $1K) have been processed within about 30 hours with no verification required. (likely because everything is already verified through paypal to their liking) It's much slower than anywhere else, but this is mainly due to the fact that they hold the funds for 24 hours to give you the option of reversing the withdrawal. I disabled the ability to reverse and this did not speed up the process unfortunately, but no big deal.

If you're using multiple methods for deposit, this may throw up a red flag and may require verification especially if using credit cards. Verification like this is standard nowadays and should be expected. Some sites (including other financial institutions) also require a selfie of you holding your I.D next to your face, lmao, so be happy you didn't have to do that. Now that you're verified I doubt you'll have anymore issues.

This is standard, tho the timing in which they verify this varies. It may have been the reason they asked for documentation in the first place, but who knows anymore the way these sites are run. A lot of this is due to pressure from the feds, and how each site goes about implementing that varies.


I wouldn't expect anything at the end of the year except for the W-2Gs for $5k+ wins. There's also an option in the poker client where you can download a list of all your transactions for a specified period along with your overall totals.

A lot of people are now avoiding PayPal because of the new 1099-K rules.

If I had one this year it may have served as a convenient cross reference to avoid some errors on schedule c and my need for an amended return.

Personally, if they had something that could streamline online gaming taxes in the same way Cointracker/TurboTax does for crypto CGT, then I'd be all for it.

https://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/tur...ax-time-50961/

To be blunt most people have little desire to correctly file their taxes related to gambling because they are at best marginal winners who don't otherwise itemize.

Is anyone able to share how exactly the rakeback program works on WSOP? Everything I have found talks about APP points and Tier status; however, I can not find anything related to these in the software. I see that I have Caesar rewards and a level (currently lvl 50). However, there is no way to see how much rake I have paid and what percentage I am earning back through rewards.

Some transparency would be nice..