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03-30-2022 , 07:48 PM
Double clicking on the player name brings up the note and tagging options.
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03-30-2022 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Koss
Double clicking on the player name brings up the note and tagging options.
Hmm, that doesn't work for me. When I do that, it just toggles between BB's/chip stack. For me, I have to click 100x, and all over someones avatar for it to maybe pop up. Sometimes I feel like I know the correct spot to click, and then it just stops working altogether.
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03-30-2022 , 10:06 PM
If you click anywhere on their stack $$ it toggles from BB to $. I think you have to double click the letters of their name for it to work. I'll try next time I'm on to make sure.
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03-30-2022 , 10:59 PM
It's double click on their image to open up notes.
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03-30-2022 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ekdikeo
Also, ranting more, there's no cash game table selection. You just get thrown in whatever one it chooses.
I get it...I guess I have a high tolerance and I was really running well The above statement may be wrong though.

If your lobby looks like this -



Click the 3 little lines



To get this...




Still have to view the tables though to see who's playing.

Last edited by starscream1101; 03-30-2022 at 11:12 PM.
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03-31-2022 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by starscream1101
I get it...I guess I have a high tolerance and I was really running well The above statement may be wrong though.

Still have to view the tables though to see who's playing.
Thanks for pointing that out. How daheck are people expected to find things hidden under flyout menus or icons that have no obvious meaning *grumble*

Further complaining: The lobby window cannot be resized in any dimension, despite it not having anywhere near enough space to display all the info it has, and it neither fits a full HD 1920x1080 display fully, nor does it fit *on* a 1200x1920 display. Who is this thing designed for?!
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03-31-2022 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ekdikeo
Thanks for pointing that out. How daheck are people expected to find things hidden under flyout menus or icons that have no obvious meaning *grumble*

Further complaining: The lobby window cannot be resized in any dimension, despite it not having anywhere near enough space to display all the info it has, and it neither fits a full HD 1920x1080 display fully, nor does it fit *on* a 1200x1920 display. Who is this thing designed for?!
Yup - 888Caption may help fix that. LikeAA, over in the caption thread, sent me the update installer to support WSOP.MI and seems to be working very well. I expect that he'll be updating for everyone soon.

Now that i've read all of your complaints....i'm starting to see them too. Thanks for ruining my impression for me...





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03-31-2022 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by starscream1101
Yup - 888Caption may help fix that. LikeAA, over in the caption thread, sent me the update installer to support WSOP.MI and seems to be working very well. I expect that he'll be updating for everyone soon.

Now that i've read all of your complaints....i'm starting to see them too. Thanks for ruining my impression for me...
sorry! :-D

I'll have to check that out. Any other utilities we should know about to help fix this thing?

I see you have Hand2Note also -- do you know a way to make it stop displaying a phantom HUD on WSOP? Clearly it's able to get enough information to build a display as it pops up instantly open joining a table, and has correct usernames, but the game client doesn't store handhistories of any kind that I can see, so it can't actually do anything... but I don't see any way in H2H for 888/wsop/whatever


... why doesn't the tournament Structure tab show how long levels are? How is one supposed to know what regular, turbo, superturbo, etc mean to them?


... OMFG. If you're in other windows, and a cash game pops up over it, and you act on it, then bring your other window back to the foreground, it doesn't clear the Windows highlight on the task bar, so the button on the taskbar continues flashing for your attention, until you click on the window to bring it forward manually.

God this software sucks.

Last edited by ekdikeo; 03-31-2022 at 12:44 PM.
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03-31-2022 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ekdikeo
sorry! :-D

I'll have to check that out. Any other utilities we should know about to help fix this thing?

I see you have Hand2Note also -- do you know a way to make it stop displaying a phantom HUD on WSOP? Clearly it's able to get enough information to build a display as it pops up instantly open joining a table, and has correct usernames, but the game client doesn't store handhistories of any kind that I can see, so it can't actually do anything... but I don't see any way in H2H for 888/wsop/whatever
For H2N - go to configuration —> HUD editor



unselect all and just select PartyPoker / Pokerstars

save

I will say though….I’ve been considering making a mini H2N hud with just the notes container instead of using the in game notes editor. Although Caption has notes containers too.
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04-01-2022 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mzungu
Has anyone received information about prohibited software?. . . . . are we allowed to have HUD software open. . . . ?
The TOS for Michigan seems pretty clear that they're allowed:

https://www.wsop.com/legal/terms-conditions-mi/

• 7.3 Software Aids -: Please note that in relation to any peer-to-peer games or any other games, You may not use any tools or software other than: (i) tools that provide You with basic game statistics and information that could be useful to beginners, such as hand strength and pot odds indication, (ii) tools which provide You with basic-level advice about the game such as opening hand charts, (iii) tracking software that calculates and displays in-game statistics which are intended to help You organise the information that he already has access to as a player at that specific table (apart from Snap games), and (iv) tools that improve your experience without influencing the game itself or providing any advice (for example enhanced display, keyboard shortcuts and improved visibility), (collectively "Permitted Aids"). For the avoidance of doubt, section (iv) shall not include any software program or external aid which, in our opinion, enables You to find a seat at a poker table or automatically seats You at a poker table.


I believe the whole hud issue is because of Nevada's State law about not allowing such aids, so to make it "fair" for Nevada players they're not writing hand histories for any state.

And if you select "Nevada" on the WSOP site you can see that the TOS language under 7.3 is different than MI's, and pretty much prohibits all software.

https://www.wsop.com/legal/terms-conditions-nv/
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04-01-2022 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by yahoo83912831
I think my biggest complaint with WSOP is the note/tag feature. I shouldn't have to click my mouse 100x in hopes the note/tag feature will pop up.
Ya, same thing here, but I only have to click it 86x. Other times it works fine, but I've been using H2N for notes since that particular HUD feature is still enabled.

My biggest issue right now is the intermittent white flashing on the screen. I don't know if it's some kind of mind control thing or wtf. Surpised I haven't had an ocular migraine or some sht. I'd advise epileptics to stand clear.

Also, not sure what's up with the random emojis and chat bubbles popping up since the chat feature is apparently disabled. It's usually just the same quotes, either "bad beat" or "good game" coming from players that are not even in the hand. I'm guessing it's just some automated chat that the poker client is throwing out there, but why would they have it shout "bad beat!" in the middle of a hand after someone bets the turn on a draw heavy board in a huge pot? It's just a bit peculiar, if not annoying to say the least.

Not sure if anyone else is having those issues. . .


I've gotten used to the look & feel of the tables, so that's no longer an issue. The flying head passing out blast tickets in the middle of a hand is a bit annoying, but it's free play and I got quite a few $5 and $10 regular tourney tickets too, so I can't really complain.

I think a lot of the other issues with multi-tabling and the overall look can be solved with programs like 888Caption and intuitive tables. Just remember, no automatic seating.

Also, not sure if it's just because of a small sample or selective memory, but the cards seem to be falling in a way that's reminiscent of more realistic live game tourney play with lower variance than the other sites. I get good hands that hold up more often, and longer stretches with marginal/trash, which is the way I think it should be, right? On other sites it's like a bunch of regs all getting good hands they can't get away from.
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04-01-2022 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by yahoo83912831

... why doesn't the tournament Structure tab show how long levels are?

I wondered that too, but it is listed in the lobby under 'blind level' below the 'buy in' amount and 'prize pool.'




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Originally Posted by starscream1101

I’ve been considering making a mini H2N hud with just the notes container instead of using the in game notes editor.

Ya, I've considered that too. It's also able to display "stack size in BB." I wonder what other stats it can display without having hand histories?

Also, does anyone know where wsop is storing the in-client "game history." I don't want to sound naive, but if it's saved locally, maybe H2N can read it like it reads Chico's db file without a 3rd party card catcher/converter?
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04-01-2022 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by monte carloco
I wondered that too, but it is listed in the lobby under 'blind level' below the 'buy in' amount and 'prize pool.'







Ya, I've considered that too. It's also able to display "stack size in BB." I wonder what other stats it can display without having hand histories?

Also, does anyone know where wsop is storing the in-client "game history." I don't want to sound naive, but if it's saved locally, maybe H2N can read it like it reads Chico's db file without a 3rd party card catcher/converter?

I've poked around....default directory for installation is

C:\Users\(your username)\AppData\Roaming\WSOP.MI

There is couple minor files here...

C:\Users\(your username)\AppData\Roaming\Poker\WSOP.MI

Don't see anything significant honestly...teh GameHistory folder just has image files.
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04-01-2022 , 02:53 PM
it looks like that option for turning off specific rooms is a per-statistic level option, rather than a "do not use hud for this site" option. this is infuriating.
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04-01-2022 , 03:29 PM
OMFG, clicking the reload button in cash games (sometimes?) crashes the entire client. Poof goes 4 in progress games that don't autoresume.

Last edited by ekdikeo; 04-01-2022 at 03:41 PM.
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04-01-2022 , 03:40 PM
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it looks like that option for turning off specific rooms is a per-statistic level option, rather than a "do not use hud for this site" option. this is infuriating.
Incorrect. Click your whole hud.
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04-01-2022 , 04:01 PM
My review on WSOP MI...Sign up download the software see what a lot of has been mentioned so far as clutter and just not an easy navigate. See i do not have my $25 sign up as i go to deposit to get my other $25 free too go along. They want front and back side of drivers license hell no problem boom there you go....wait....wait....Approved! Hey Finally! Go to cashier still have to upload a doc? wtf? Check email...want signed ss card scanned sent and all restrictions off account ready for real money play in MI...pita whatever shoot that off to them...wait...wait...yesterday is gone...today take the initiative to shoot off and attach utility to boot now WSOP has drivers license,utility,ss card they are as much F'n me as i am me and my account is under review????? ALL documents approved mind you! Can not tell you how this chaps my azz! WSOP you guys find out i am somebody better than some broke dik horse player you better F'n tell me...Holy S! Man
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04-01-2022 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by starscream1101
Incorrect. Click your whole hud.
I might need a video or gif or something, i'm not sure if I'm stupid, blind, or H2H is designed bizarrely

... also just discovered every time a sound effect is played, it spawns a separate process to play the sound. holy **** that's energy / cpu consuming.
And it leaves about a half dozen of those processes hanging out, also.
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04-01-2022 , 07:18 PM
ekdikeo - with all due respect and all your complaining on this site - save yourself a heart attack, uninstall WSOP and goto pokerstars. Geez man, it's got issue but you clearly need to uninstall it - LOL

I'm concerned about your health dude... lol
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04-01-2022 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ekdikeo
I might need a video or gif or something, i'm not sure if I'm stupid, blind, or H2H is designed bizarrely
I’ll post a couple screenshots tomorrow.

Meanwhile - post containing link to 888caption with WSOP.MI support.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=6694
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04-02-2022 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Curado Kev
ekdikeo - with all due respect and all your complaining on this site - save yourself a heart attack, uninstall WSOP and goto pokerstars. Geez man, it's got issue but you clearly need to uninstall it - LOL

I'm concerned about your health dude... lol
It seriously pisses me off that the biggest brand in the business would put out this utter trash. I'm a software developer, and if I built trash like this, I wouldn't have a job. If my designers designed trash like this, they wouldn't have jobs either.

.. i mean, my god, it doesn't even have an auto-check button. The software actively is hostile towards providing you the information necessary to play, and the non-standardized UI design is actively hostile towards playing.
If not for the fact that their bonuses arelike printing money right now, I wouldn't have even signed up.

Beware player My2ndMillion who's currently running like God at 50NL, not losing a hand and has a dozen buyins

Last edited by ekdikeo; 04-02-2022 at 02:36 AM.
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04-02-2022 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ekdikeo
It seriously pisses me off that the biggest brand in the business would put out this utter trash.

I'm a software developer, and if I built trash like this, I wouldn't have a job. If my designers designed trash like this, they wouldn't have jobs either.

.. i mean, my god, it doesn't even have an auto-check button.
They're more worried about all the childish animations with all the flashing lights and that stupid fk-ing purple head flying around in the middle of a hand passing out those gdamn Bingo Blast tickets that are quite frankly ruining SNG poker.

I can't even sort the tables by number of players let alone get 2 SNGs running simultaneously.

I mean seriously, wtf is going on with legalized U.S poker? It's just been a major disappointment all around.

I had a decent MTT win so I figured I'd try doing a withdrawal to Paypal to see what BS we'll have to deal with. Looks like they've adopted the same old shady practices from 20 years ago. They're gonna make us wait a day to see if we change our mind and reverse the withdrawal. Waiting to see if they're going to force me to send documents and that selfie of you holding your ID next to your fk-ing face, lol.


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The software actively is hostile towards providing you the information necessary to play, and the non-standardized UI design is actively hostile towards playing.
That word pretty much sums up U.S poker over the last year, HOSTILE. It's like they don't even want us to play, as if the only reason to legalize online poker was to ruin it. They simply don't want people losing their casino winnings to regs.

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04-02-2022 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ekdikeo
It seriously pisses me off that the biggest brand in the business would put out this utter trash. I'm a software developer, and if I built trash like this, I wouldn't have a job. If my designers designed trash like this, they wouldn't have jobs either.

.. i mean, my god, it doesn't even have an auto-check button. The software actively is hostile towards providing you the information necessary to play, and the non-standardized UI design is actively hostile towards playing.
If not for the fact that their bonuses arelike printing money right now, I wouldn't have even signed up.

Beware player My2ndMillion who's currently running like God at 50NL, not losing a hand and has a dozen buyins
1) Select Cash Game HUD
2) Select Room
3) Unselect All
3a) For a HUD for Stars and Party...Select PokerStars and PartyPoker
3b) If you created a notes container hud...Select Pacific
3c) If you didn't create a notes container, go into your HU table huds and ensure they are only set for Pokerstars and Party.


4)Go into any tourney HUDS and do the same thing

Additionally,

Go into configuration --> Game Types and make some duplicate Game types...one for each room. Selecting which HUD you want for each room.

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04-02-2022 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by monte carloco
They're more worried about all the childish animations with all the flashing lights and that stupid fk-ing purple head flying around in the middle of a hand passing out those gdamn Bingo Blast tickets that are quite frankly ruining SNG poker.

I can't even sort the tables by number of players let alone get 2 SNGs running simultaneously.

I mean seriously, wtf is going on with legalized U.S poker? It's just been a major disappointment all around.

I had a decent MTT win so I figured I'd try doing a withdrawal to Paypal to see what BS we'll have to deal with. Looks like they've adopted the same old shady practices from 20 years ago. They're gonna make us wait a day to see if we change our mind and reverse the withdrawal. Waiting to see if they're going to force me to send documents and that selfie of you holding your ID next to your fk-ing face, lol.




That word pretty much sums up U.S poker over the last year, HOSTILE. It's like they don't even want us to play, as if the only reason to legalize online poker was to ruin it. They simply don't want people losing their casino winnings to regs.

Hear me out now...they are trying to attract casuals, not seasoned grinders such as yourself. Poker in the US is the softest poker in the world right now. Be happy we have such soft pools. Withdrawal approvals next day is nothing new. My Caesar's sportsbook withdrawals are sometimes same day, sometimes next day.
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04-02-2022 , 01:33 PM
So, you get to notes by double clicking directly on the person's avatar picture, and only in that space. Hitting their name box does nothing, hitting the transparent space around/close to the picture does nothing, hitting their money box toggles BB/Chip display. Nice thing? i guess is that you can keep each person's note editor up indefinitely it looks like, so you could h ave the full note editor up for all players at your table if you wanted to.

Curiously, there's an option to mute players after you double click them, but since there's no chat, it's pretty useless. Maybe that mutes the random emotes the avatars seem to do.
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