Lol if you can’t come up with a solution for this I don’t think you are the go to resource for difficulty of games across sites or the current landscape of bots.

Don’t take my word for it, you can see examples all over youtube. There’s even a thread here on 2p2 with detailed information. Also not sure why you correlate not doing taxes well to any of the other two.

That is due to regulatory requirements and not technological shortcomings. Holdem Indicator still lists WSOP as one of their sites lol. Screen scraping software for reading cards have been around for a long time and you can purchase screen maps for many major sites.

i would be interested in to see if you could have a screen scraping program open along side wsop without the client auto closing. it wont even let you have poker tracker open without shutting down

I recommend you guys check out the thread here made by a botter a few years back, it’s pretty complex. They typically have two computers side by side to bypass these type of security. On Youtube you can search for one in action it’s freaky.

Also WSOP only detects certain programs on a blacklist, for example it blocks PT3 but allows HM2/piosolver. It also does not block any browser based programs. Is it set up to catch custom software? I’m not sold that it is the case.

even if you have it set up on a separate pc you still need a screen scraping program on the main pc unless u want to pull everything up manually. it does block some browser based aps such as google remote desktop. could they just block any screen scraping program across the board? wsop does allow pio which is kinda weird but not rly a big deal imo; its not like anyone is running sims mid hand

fwiw no one on wsop plays gto; if they are using rta its not very good

Poker bot tech is way beyond WSOP capabilities. Pokerstars is light years ahead of 888/WSOP and they have had a bot ring problem at 200NL zoom for a number of years. I think what is keeping bots away from WSOP is not really lack of hand histories or superior guardrail programs, but more because bot rings cannot deposit/withdraw efficiently on regulated US sites.

And to touch on the last point, agree no regs here are playing anywhere near GTO and very few are playing the right exploit strategy for the pool. Hence my earlier point on US regs vs ROW. The caliber of play on 200z in many of the Youtube vids out nowadays are lightyears ahead of our pool here.

I mean this whole bots talk is just blown way out of proportions. Ive been playing midstakes up to 3/6 on ACR for years, and there are bots prevalent in the pool, but from my samples, the so called machines are only winning at 1-2BB/100 clip at best, given they aren't adjusting vs the fishes, and also aren't maximizing their EV vs certain human underbluffed lines. Quite frankly, they aren't that tough to play against. The only worry imo is someone using RTA for solutions, while adjusting vs fishes and regs with notes. But i doubt, anybody would really spend their time in doing that on a site like WSOP, since the volume for 1kNL+ is quite limited, and the repercussions of getting caught would be way worse.

6max poker is not a solved game as the Bot pluribus was still making severe blunders in many situations. I think HUNL bots would be more of a worry, given HU solutions are easier to approximate, and less meta-oriented compared to 6m.

I wish WSOP would add OFC or mixed games. I would sit for many hours each day and wait for action.

Is this Gollum?

No, I'm not Gollum. I mean I will play other games like NL holdem and wait for OFC or mixed to start.

Please don’t play ofc online, you are asking to be cheated

Please don’t play ofc online, you are asking to be cheated

Wsop Nevada uses the exact software as ROW 888... is that correct? Or is it different? Asking this in case I play on Wsop Nevada whenever I'm in the US.


Also are there software issues on this site such as if you play lot of tables? I know the US site doesn't have that much volume due to the player pool... but could someone 12+ table on Wsop Nevada without any lag or client issues? 888 ROW a while back did software update where the software has ton of issues where it freezes and crashes and all these things. Someone else mentioned they have the same exact issue and basically you can't play more than x amount of tables on 888 ROW due to this. Or does none of this concern Wsop Nevada? I did recall no hud allowed so no HEM or PT correct? But could you import or you not allowed to do that? What if you playing on say wpn at the same time?

I think it is the old 888 software, It is nothing like the new ROW 888 software that is currently out.

No hud no importing because no hhs, Playing acr same time is fine. I 12 table on wsop and never had issues.

There’s also a cap to number of cash game tables, I think its 10 but am not sure

You are correct 10 is the cap for cash tables.

I used to play on WSOP NJ but moved to NV. (Although I know it's not where you live, you just need to physically be in state)

I downloaded the NV client, am I supposed to set up a new username? Or do I just login with my NJ and update info?

Interesting did not know this ty, Pretty sure I had more then 10 running when playing but mixed in some mtts with cash, could be wrong though and maybe it is only 10 max for everything

There’s no cap for mtts and sngs, but not sure why they only cap cash

Okay so its not the same as the new ROW 888. So there is no issue with lagging or anything like that with the client when 12+ tabling mtt/sngs at all?

Do people think the wsop cares if they knew that certain regs are cheating by using HoldEm Indicator? Do people here care? If you found out who was doing it, what should one do? Thoughts?

Absolutely. I think wsop and everyone here cares. No one wants to be cheated. If you know someone is cheating, I think you should at least report them and I think I'd go as far as saying you should say who's cheating on here too. I would wonder how you know though.

I think WSOP absolutely does not care. Anyone hear of anyone ever getting banned from WSOP, for anything?

+1 on wsop probably not caring unless whatever mechanism they use to detect cheating found it. I haven't heard of anyone being banned. Also, what can you get from holdem indicator? basic HUD? I haven't used it since I played on bovada.