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It seems to me that these tools would be against the TOS as they're literally doing the math for you. I just wish someone from support would chime in and settle this. I definitely don't want these guys banned or anything. I just want a definitive answer and these tools to be clearly allowed or clearly not allowed, and for these guys to stop using this software if it is against the TOS. Clearly, many players are using it. Now, a HUD or in-game solver is a different story. Those are clearly banned and I want those guys banned, funds confiscated, and victims reimbursed. I'm sure looking up players on Sharkscope is fine.

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11-06-2023 , 04:34 AM

#2553

hedgedx

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 21

FYI to all the cash game players – 7pair is blatantly cheating in the 200nl-1knl games using GTOwizard in almost every pot. At this point, I have screenshots of 20+ hands matching wizard's fairplay in real time (not after the hand is over). I will contact support with my evidence this week, I encourage you all to do the same.

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11-06-2023 , 01:46 PM

#2554

Franklin's Dad

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 312

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Originally Posted by hedgedx

I sent in a spreadsheet full of evidence, along with screenshots showing him cheating on every street to Danielle Barille a few weeks ago. I never heard anything, and obviously he is still out there playing.

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11-06-2023 , 04:44 PM

#2555

HeeHaw!!

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 78

Thanks for bringing this up, guys. I had no idea. I looked up two big pots he played against me today, and one spot matched exactly, one didn't match. The one that matched, he took a lot longer to act on. Going forward, I will note the big pots I see him play and look them up on fair play afterwards. If I can find multiple matches, I will be emailing them as well.

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11-06-2023 , 04:54 PM

#2556

hedgedx

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 21

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Originally Posted by Franklin's Dad

This is such bullshit. Everyone always said the regulated sites were the only safe places for your money and game integrity. Guess that is complete non sense and stars/party are the only sites that care? Surely, there is someone higher up we can speak to?

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11-06-2023 , 05:34 PM

#2557

kkushion

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 45

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Originally Posted by hedgedx

Thank you for the public service announcement; it is very much appreciated. Let's hope WSOP does the right thing here.

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11-06-2023 , 11:31 PM

#2558

fast11375

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,757

Thats why we really need to petition WSOP to relinquish HHs. Can be like Ignition where we can download them after 7 days or something to deter HUDs.

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11-07-2023 , 03:40 AM

#2559

jshua

stranger

Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 13

I've also flagged ~30 hands that 7pair has used real time assistance in. Can provide further details if necessary

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11-07-2023 , 02:10 PM

#2560

JBlane

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 26

Does anyone use Starlink satellite internet? If so how do I get it to recognize that I’m in Las Vegas so I can play on wsop.com . I has me located in cali. Thanks in advance

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11-07-2023 , 04:23 PM

#2561

dial

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 145

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Originally Posted by JBlane

Does anyone use Starlink satellite internet? If so how do I get it to recognize that I’m in Las Vegas so I can play on wsop.com . I has me located in cali. Thanks in advance

Did you try logging in to wsop.com?

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11-07-2023 , 04:25 PM

#2562

prideitoff

grinder

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 412

i marked 4 hands against 7pair from my session last night and all of them were looked up on gtow. i already sent them to wsop. heres one

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11-07-2023 , 06:09 PM

#2563

HeeHaw!!

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 78

I just played a session with him this morning. I looked up 7 hands and 6 of them were perfect matches. I just sent an email to both Danielle and support. Hopefully, they do the right thing. Thanks to everyone for emailing your evidence.

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11-07-2023 , 06:23 PM

#2564

Gary Stevenson

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,708

He's for sure 100% cheating, I also emailed support with some evidence. I think we shouldn't post about it anywhere else in hopes word doesn't get to him where he would try to withdraw his balance before it's (hopefully) confiscated by wsop.

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11-07-2023 , 06:51 PM

#2565

HeeHaw!!

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 78

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Originally Posted by Gary Stevenson

I agree. Great point.

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11-08-2023 , 12:24 AM

#2566

JBlane

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 26

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Originally Posted by dial

Did you try logging in to wsop.com?

I did a few times and it says it’s have trouble verifying my location. I thought Maybe someone else may have ran into the same issue.

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11-08-2023 , 12:33 AM

#2567

hedgedx

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 21

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Originally Posted by Gary Stevenson

Outting him publicly is what we need to do. WSOP does not do refunds – they take confiscated money and put it into promos/bonuses. There is no downside for us getting this out publicly. We need someone with a big platform.

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11-08-2023 , 01:35 AM

#2568

Gary Stevenson

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,708

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Originally Posted by hedgedx

I think we should give wsop some more time. He should 100% be outed to the whole poker world as a cheat, but I think we should wait until wsop has more time to go over the evidence and hopefully ban him and confiscate his $. Taking this more public now just increases the chance he gets away with the cheating and just withdraws his whole balance.

I get that we wouldn't get refunds, but punishing him for his cheated winnings should be one of our goals at this time too, imo.

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11-08-2023 , 01:43 AM

#2569

hedgedx

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 21

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Originally Posted by Gary Stevenson

You would think WSOP would atleast do a temp ban in the mean time? stars/party instantly temp banned YourNightmare instantly. This has probably been around a little over a month since he was first reported.

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11-08-2023 , 02:35 AM

#2570

Gary Stevenson

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,708

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Originally Posted by hedgedx

You would think that of a site with competent security... I wouldn't give wsop that much credit. I realize this means there's a better chance of them not finding him guilty, but I still think we should wait to out him to a wider audience until we hear back conclusively from support.

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11-08-2023 , 02:48 AM

#2571

lucknotskill

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,165

He's doing it every hand just like projectbaby was. I literally just caught him doing it in a SRP bb v btn v gavish...the hand checked down to the river.

One thing confuses me- I thought wizard had some type of setting where you can't load a whole bunch of hands in fast succession? I just ran about ten hands of his in about five minutes and they all popped up as perfect matches. wtf?

Last edited by lucknotskill; 11-08-2023 at 02:55 AM.

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11-08-2023 , 02:51 AM

#2572

lucknotskill

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,165

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Originally Posted by hedgedx

To be honest I would rather not have to play with a cheater every day...

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11-08-2023 , 04:17 AM

#2573

hedgedx

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 21

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Originally Posted by prideitoff

i marked 4 hands against 7pair from my session last night and all of them were looked up on gtow. i already sent them to wsop. heres one

If we're going to submit proof, should include the actual date and time in the screenshot as well. I could see how WSOP could deny your ss.

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11-09-2023 , 05:49 PM

#2574

HeeHaw!!

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 78

Support replied to me and said they would conduct an investigation, but it would be confidential. I replied and urged them to reconsider. The poker community has a right to know who the cheaters are. Also, publicly shaming and punishing them will help to discourage cheating going forward.