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10-03-2023 , 06:14 PM
I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming. Not just one flop either..

I mean statistically the probability of someone else in the world looking up these boards at the same exact time have to be near zero.
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10-03-2023 , 06:47 PM
It would not be too difficult to follow someone around and run some of their big pots on GTOw as those hands take place. Then cry RTA. Hate and jealousy can cause people to do far worse. It's not hard to see how this could all devolve very quickly into a Salem Witch trial. Do I think this guy was likely RTA'ing? Still yes, but it's not up to my opinion.

I hope the sites' security teams are smart enough (lol) to use flagged hands as only one piece in the puzzle before they confiscate/ban people. And site TOS allows them to suspend service to people for arbitrary reasons, so even a moderate suspicion is all it takes for someone to lose their livelihood.

Do I want to see confirmed cheaters punished to the max? Of course. But a false-positive is just as bad, if not worse.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs, tbh
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10-03-2023 , 07:16 PM
I agree.

But fair play check is all we have right now. And its something we did not have previously.

For someone to be looking up a specific flop, the same exact time its being played in real life is pretty suspect. But coincidences happen. Now throw some more hands into the mix, which seemingly is the case, the odds are near zero.

And okay, to your point if some loser is out there trying to frame him. - He is still max time banking and playing these hands optimally.

All the stars align on this one.
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10-03-2023 , 09:57 PM
He's playing 100 right now, still max time banking all decisions.
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10-04-2023 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jenger1989
He was in chat threatening to sue Berkey for defamation lol he must not be that knowledgeable in law..

His main defense was he plays 10 tables at a time and how would it be possible.
LOL
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10-04-2023 , 01:39 PM
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And okay, to your point if some loser is out there trying to frame him. - He is still max time banking and playing these hands optimally.
Lmao
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10-04-2023 , 02:57 PM
Just the other day, I looked up a hand where he time banked and got stacks in vs me. I would think if he is rtaing certain hands, he would for sure be rtaing this one (big pot vs winning reg). He absolutely butchered it, and he's butchered plenty others (compared to the solver). But my ranges in Pio are likely at least slightly different than his ranges in gtow which will shift evs. I also think it would be nearly impossible to be looking up hands regularly during hands while mass tabling. Mass tabling also explains the time banking. But what do I know? 8-tabling would drive me nuts, personally. But the s4y thing is sketchy. And it does seem that he's mixing more lines/sizings than all the other regs by far, which the solver would do, but part of that might be my imagination (for instance, he is simplifying, but using drastically different sizings than the field in many spots), but I wouldn't call that strong evidence. Do we know for sure he is the same guy on Stars?
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10-04-2023 , 04:44 PM
Yournighmare is clearly using something in game. Heard he already got banned on nj stars. Not to mention how miserable he must make the game for 1 tabling recs with the old unopened button 35 second timebank folds.

On another note props to the guys always starting tables. With low liquidity it’s ok to play other regs Hu even if expectation is around zero. At 100 the tables almost always fill within under 10 minutes and voila there is ur ev. Not to mention how good it is for the ecosystem when recs always have games when logging on.
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10-04-2023 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HeeHaw!!
Just the other day, I looked up a hand where he time banked and got stacks in vs me. I would think if he is rtaing certain hands, he would for sure be rtaing this one (big pot vs winning reg). He absolutely butchered it, and he's butchered plenty others (compared to the solver). But my ranges in Pio are likely at least slightly different than his ranges in gtow which will shift evs. I also think it would be nearly impossible to be looking up hands regularly during hands while mass tabling. Mass tabling also explains the time banking. But what do I know? 8-tabling would drive me nuts, personally. But the s4y thing is sketchy. And it does seem that he's mixing more lines/sizings than all the other regs by far, which the solver would do, but part of that might be my imagination (for instance, he is simplifying, but using drastically different sizings than the field in many spots), but I wouldn't call that strong evidence. Do we know for sure he is the same guy on Stars?

i read an reread your paragraph a few times. still dont know what your trying to say.
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10-04-2023 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLove_Below
i read an reread your paragraph a few times. still dont know what your trying to say.
Lol. Just basically rambling my thoughts on the issue. I'm leaning towards he's not using rta. I definitely think he's using software to auto-timebank though. Not sure if that's against tos or not. It's technically an unfair advantage, but also annoying af when he uses entire timebank to fold 73o in the cutoff.
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10-04-2023 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by splashthep0t
Yournighmare is clearly using something in game. Heard he already got banned on nj stars. Not to mention how miserable he must make the game for 1 tabling recs with the old unopened button 35 second timebank folds.

On another note props to the guys always starting tables. With low liquidity it’s ok to play other regs Hu even if expectation is around zero. At 100 the tables almost always fill within under 10 minutes and voila there is ur ev. Not to mention how good it is for the ecosystem when recs always have games when logging on.
+1
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10-05-2023 , 02:21 AM
Did Lou Hefner eat paint chips when he was young??

Just saw a classic Hefner play: UTG open jam AQo for 100bb and get called by QQ and AK and win lol.

Last edited by BGnight; 10-05-2023 at 02:26 AM.
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10-06-2023 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by HeeHaw!!
Just the other day, I looked up a hand where he time banked and got stacks in vs me. I would think if he is rtaing certain hands, he would for sure be rtaing this one (big pot vs winning reg). He absolutely butchered it, and he's butchered plenty others (compared to the solver). But my ranges in Pio are likely at least slightly different than his ranges in gtow which will shift evs. I also think it would be nearly impossible to be looking up hands regularly during hands while mass tabling. Mass tabling also explains the time banking. But what do I know? 8-tabling would drive me nuts, personally. But the s4y thing is sketchy. And it does seem that he's mixing more lines/sizings than all the other regs by far, which the solver would do, but part of that might be my imagination (for instance, he is simplifying, but using drastically different sizings than the field in many spots), but I wouldn't call that strong evidence. Do we know for sure he is the same guy on Stars?
It's bc he's not RTA'ing. GTOw admin ran the hands through their backend and 7 of the 8 hands were false positives (ie, the configurations looked up via GTOw viewer were MTT/diff stack depths). Not to mention, they admitted GTOw's "FPC" flags false positives in cash games at a rate upwards of 30%. My personal chat w/ said admin:

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10-06-2023 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jshua
It's bc he's not RTA'ing. GTOw admin ran the hands through their backend and 7 of the 8 hands were false positives (ie, the configurations looked up via GTOw viewer were MTT/diff stack depths). Not to mention, they admitted GTOw's "FPC" flags false positives in cash games at a rate upwards of 30%. My personal chat w/ said admin:

I'm convinced. Must really suck to have these false accusations.
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10-09-2023 , 03:00 PM
I know this is annoying to ask, but its end of year and every tier credit counts towards status and only got 2 more months to qualify. But did anyone get their tier credits applied for the month of September yet? Thank you!
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10-09-2023 , 09:42 PM
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I know this is annoying to ask, but its end of year and every tier credit counts towards status and only got 2 more months to qualify. But did anyone get their tier credits applied for the month of September yet? Thank you!
Not sure abt others' experience but I know the point application month to month is very irregular as to when they do it. Just give it a couple weeks. If you still have issues just call call Caesar's Rewards support
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10-10-2023 , 11:36 PM
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I know this is annoying to ask, but its end of year and every tier credit counts towards status and only got 2 more months to qualify. But did anyone get their tier credits applied for the month of September yet? Thank you!
yes i got mine on the 4th
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10-11-2023 , 04:58 AM
Hay guys my name is Justin aka M.A.O.L.I. on WSOP.COM.

It was brought to my attention that I was being accused of colluding and/or soft playing on here. I am here to address these accusations as completely false. I am not sure how my name even got brought into this conversation to begin with.

I can confirm I have never met Penny in person and do not even know his name. I believe my friend Conrad Simpson (aka Iamnotblack, KerriP, BlackStallion, BobbyzRoomKing11) may know him or be friends with him but thatÂ’s about the only connection I can think of that I have with Penny. Penny and I have battled many times heads up and he is also a fierce competitor any time we play against each other in ring. If need be I am sure there is a way to prove that with many hhs.

I have also battled iHeartDDs over a long period of time. He also is a great player who has all the respect in the world from me. Both Penny and iHeart are two awesome players who are more than willing to start games with me all the time and I respect the hell out of both of them for doing so.

I am relatively known by a lot of players in the community, especially in Las Vegas, and take great pride in having a Sterling reputation when it comes to not only game integrity but also integrity as a human. Players from low stakes to the highest games around town can all vouch for my reputation. I would never cheat or steal from anyone. ItÂ’s unfortunate my name was brought into this discussion at all. I hope this post was enough to clear my name of any of this. If need be I can provide any evidence to clear me of any wrong doing. Thank you guys.
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10-11-2023 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by M.A.O.L.I.
Hay guys my name is Justin aka M.A.O.L.I. on WSOP.COM.

It was brought to my attention that I was being accused of colluding and/or soft playing on here. I am here to address these accusations as completely false. I am not sure how my name even got brought into this conversation to begin with.

I can confirm I have never met Penny in person and do not even know his name. I believe my friend Conrad Simpson (aka Iamnotblack, KerriP, BlackStallion, BobbyzRoomKing11) may know him or be friends with him but thatÂ’s about the only connection I can think of that I have with Penny. Penny and I have battled many times heads up and he is also a fierce competitor any time we play against each other in ring. If need be I am sure there is a way to prove that with many hhs.

I have also battled iHeartDDs over a long period of time. He also is a great player who has all the respect in the world from me. Both Penny and iHeart are two awesome players who are more than willing to start games with me all the time and I respect the hell out of both of them for doing so.

I am relatively known by a lot of players in the community, especially in Las Vegas, and take great pride in having a Sterling reputation when it comes to not only game integrity but also integrity as a human. Players from low stakes to the highest games around town can all vouch for my reputation. I would never cheat or steal from anyone. ItÂ’s unfortunate my name was brought into this discussion at all. I hope this post was enough to clear my name of any of this. If need be I can provide any evidence to clear me of any wrong doing. Thank you guys.
nobody thinks you or penny did anything and this was unnecessary, just bc one guy says "oh these guys are cheating" doesnt mean you owe them any explanation. good luck
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10-11-2023 , 01:06 PM
Appreciate the kind words. I take my reputation in this community very seriously and I also respect iHeartDDs so I don’t take his words lightly.
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10-11-2023 , 11:31 PM
Can we get that "Card Reshuffle" feature added to the PLO tables like ACR? There might be colluding on the WSOP Omaha tables.
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10-18-2023 , 09:31 AM
I don't understand how nobody is talking about how wsop.com is clearly a complete scam and R1gg3d. It couldn't be more obvious that the games are not right. I can predict what the cards are going to be and I can predict what my opponents cards are. Nobody else can see this?

Haven't you noticed that there are players that are impossible to beat?

Haven't you noticed that when you flop top pair, set, or anything good that the board gets wetter and and more connected every single time?

Haven't you noticed how rarely you get dealt pocket AA?

Haven't you noticed that you never get action when you have hand?

Haven't you noticed that the coolers only go against you?

Haven't you noticed that the site is not random and you are playing against super using bots?

I am disgusted, shocked, and furious that the WSOP.com is rigged and cheats their players. It's like the NBA being rigged, NFL being rigged, and it's really terrible. It also makes sense when looking at all the main event winners in the past and how they have rigged it for years. Mr. Potripper himself won a main event and let's not forget that the auto shufflers make it easy to cheat and rig the games. I doubt its a coincedence that the year Moneymaker won was the year they started using the auto shufflers. Look at the year Jamie Gold won, every shuffle was like the cards were picked out specifically for him and then you come to find out that he is a guy in hollywood. It all adds up now .. what a shame that I have wasted so much time and money on something that is completely rigged and a complete scam.
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10-18-2023 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by laggod67
I don't understand how nobody is talking about how wsop.com is clearly a complete scam and R1gg3d. It couldn't be more obvious that the games are not right. I can predict what the cards are going to be and I can predict what my opponents cards are. Nobody else can see this?

Haven't you noticed that there are players that are impossible to beat?

Haven't you noticed that when you flop top pair, set, or anything good that the board gets wetter and and more connected every single time?

Haven't you noticed how rarely you get dealt pocket AA?

Haven't you noticed that you never get action when you have hand?

Haven't you noticed that the coolers only go against you?

Haven't you noticed that the site is not random and you are playing against super using bots?

I am disgusted, shocked, and furious that the WSOP.com is rigged and cheats their players. It's like the NBA being rigged, NFL being rigged, and it's really terrible. It also makes sense when looking at all the main event winners in the past and how they have rigged it for years. Mr. Potripper himself won a main event and let's not forget that the auto shufflers make it easy to cheat and rig the games. I doubt its a coincedence that the year Moneymaker won was the year they started using the auto shufflers. Look at the year Jamie Gold won, every shuffle was like the cards were picked out specifically for him and then you come to find out that he is a guy in hollywood. It all adds up now .. what a shame that I have wasted so much time and money on something that is completely rigged and a complete scam.

I 100% agree. and i also believe all the money ive lost over the years to these super using bots and bad runouts should be refunded to me, plus the interest it mightve accumulated had i deposited into a bank.
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10-18-2023 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by laggod67
I don't understand how nobody is talking about how wsop.com is clearly a complete scam and R1gg3d. It couldn't be more obvious that the games are not right. I can predict what the cards are going to be and I can predict what my opponents cards are. Nobody else can see this?

Haven't you noticed that there are players that are impossible to beat?

Haven't you noticed that when you flop top pair, set, or anything good that the board gets wetter and and more connected every single time?

Haven't you noticed how rarely you get dealt pocket AA?

Haven't you noticed that you never get action when you have hand?

Haven't you noticed that the coolers only go against you?

Haven't you noticed that the site is not random and you are playing against super using bots?

I am disgusted, shocked, and furious that the WSOP.com is rigged and cheats their players. It's like the NBA being rigged, NFL being rigged, and it's really terrible. It also makes sense when looking at all the main event winners in the past and how they have rigged it for years. Mr. Potripper himself won a main event and let's not forget that the auto shufflers make it easy to cheat and rig the games. I doubt its a coincedence that the year Moneymaker won was the year they started using the auto shufflers. Look at the year Jamie Gold won, every shuffle was like the cards were picked out specifically for him and then you come to find out that he is a guy in hollywood. It all adds up now .. what a shame that I have wasted so much time and money on something that is completely rigged and a complete scam.
I fully agree, thank you for having the courage to speak up. Something should be done about this. Have you contacted a lawyer?
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10-18-2023 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by laggod67
I don't understand how nobody is talking about how wsop.com is clearly a complete scam and R1gg3d. It couldn't be more obvious that the games are not right. I can predict what the cards are going to be and I can predict what my opponents cards are. Nobody else can see this?

Haven't you noticed that there are players that are impossible to beat?

Haven't you noticed that when you flop top pair, set, or anything good that the board gets wetter and and more connected every single time?

Haven't you noticed how rarely you get dealt pocket AA?

Haven't you noticed that you never get action when you have hand?

Haven't you noticed that the coolers only go against you?

Haven't you noticed that the site is not random and you are playing against super using bots?

I am disgusted, shocked, and furious that the WSOP.com is rigged and cheats their players. It's like the NBA being rigged, NFL being rigged, and it's really terrible. It also makes sense when looking at all the main event winners in the past and how they have rigged it for years. Mr. Potripper himself won a main event and let's not forget that the auto shufflers make it easy to cheat and rig the games. I doubt its a coincedence that the year Moneymaker won was the year they started using the auto shufflers. Look at the year Jamie Gold won, every shuffle was like the cards were picked out specifically for him and then you come to find out that he is a guy in hollywood. It all adds up now .. what a shame that I have wasted so much time and money on something that is completely rigged and a complete scam.
Don't do drugs kids.
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