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10-01-2024 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WPT Global Alex
FairGame doesn't work based on how much you win or lose (which would be subject to short-term variance). It is based on how skilled a player you are relative to the other players in the pool. Players who are tagged as experts by FairGame have fewer seating choices and we pay less commission to affiliates for them, but the upside of this is that the games are far softer than they are on any other site.
I get how your 'fair' AI system is supposed to work, and for No Limit Hold'em, it makes total sense to me. But for Short Deck, it's just ridiculous.

With the forced 1bb straddle, the high rake structure, the frequent preflop all-ins, and the nature of Short Deck where edges and hand strengths are much closer together, win rates in this game mode are programmed to be lower.

Additionally, due to the lack of tracking and expertise in this format, I'm not even sure if my win rate is even positive. Add that to the ongoing bad run and the complete cut of my rakeback, and you have a frustrated customer ready to leave your site.

Also, I just want to emphasize again, for everyone’s benefit, that my first 10k hands of Short Deck ever—in my entire poker career—were played on WPTG and immediately labeled as HSP. It's honestly just surreal.




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We've all played on GG and Stars. Most people can't win before rewards. What is the point in grinding 50c an hour in EV in games like that.
Yeah Alex, please tell me whats the point for me to continue playing on WPTG now if its likely the same situation (in Short Deck/6+ Holdem)?
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10-01-2024 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Xela
I played WPTG full time with large volume since the beginning at 10k & 20k and was a big winner there pre-RB over hundreds of thousands of hands, and I never even had a breakeven month pre-RB. Until this changed overnight and I became breakeven after rakeback, at best. First I thought some extreme variance, but then I realised that literally everyone I knew who played there had the same experience. I also received a large five figure payout from WPTG early this year after the above mentioned alledged superusers (though tbf the reason for the large payouts was never confirmed and I do applaud WPTG for catching cheaters and redistributing their winnings). Where I disagree with a lot of the posters here is that I think this started early this year, and whatever happened just got worse around the time when they removed the rakeback. I have naturally stopped playing there.
If you got a large 5 digit payout it was definitely because of the superuser in question.

Was this at 100/200/400 or 50/100/200? I thought it only happened at 100/200/400.

It's incredible that this story got silenced totally and it shows that WPTG software is vulnerable and something fishy might be happening
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10-01-2024 , 10:45 AM
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Please PM me your user name and I'll see what's going on. Webcam Interviews are indeed part of our toolkit but nothing should take as long as 1 month.




Please PM me your username and I'll look into this.
I cannot PM you since my 2plus2 acc is new. So is there other way so I can send u a message?

I submitted the video on Sep 18th, and I still haven't got any updates as of today.
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10-01-2024 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by garnouille
If you got a large 5 digit payout it was definitely because of the superuser in question.

Was this at 100/200/400 or 50/100/200? I thought it only happened at 100/200/400.

It's incredible that this story got silenced totally and it shows that WPTG software is vulnerable and something fishy might be happening
I barely played 100200400, maybe 100 hands or so, so bulk has to be from 50100200. In any case personally would not want to assume the story about the superuser is true until I see some proof. Could have been just some people caught using a HUD or similar.
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10-01-2024 , 12:51 PM
I have played near 100k hands at 20K - and roughly 150k at 10K- friend of mine as well and we haven't received nothing in term's of refund lifetime, really doubt it's for a HUD or something similar but who knows.

When did you receive that refund?
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10-01-2024 , 03:28 PM
Why in this hand that player get that 50% of Jackpot? Bacause in the same hand was poker vs poker?

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10-01-2024 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by eduargentina
Why in this hand that player get that 50% of Jackpot? Bacause in the same hand was poker vs poker?

Yeah, I won one before. I was about to throw my laptop across the room and then this funny animation popped up and I realized what had happened
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10-01-2024 , 04:48 PM
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Why in this hand that player get that 50% of Jackpot? Bacause in the same hand was poker vs poker?

It's called jackpot badbeat that you loose by keeping a quads.
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10-01-2024 , 05:15 PM


After getting brutally destroyed every allin for past 1-2months, I thought to myself, why not try insurance instead? Seemed like a good idea on paper, but they don't show % fees anywhere. Here it is, am i missing something here?

647$ in the middle, full pot insurance cost is 196$ while he has 20% equity. So insurance without fees would be around 129$ and i get charge 196 if I take it? A 50% fees? So i suspect the freaking rng to be totally rigged for whales but I'm not even allowed to pay normal fees on insurance to make sure whale gets the pot
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10-01-2024 , 06:34 PM
But is this in the JackPot conditions?
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10-01-2024 , 07:15 PM
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But is this in the JackPot conditions?
I don't think so. I had no idea it was a thing.
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10-01-2024 , 09:20 PM
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After getting brutally destroyed every allin for past 1-2months, I thought to myself, why not try insurance instead? Seemed like a good idea on paper, but they don't show % fees anywhere. Here it is, am i missing something here?

647$ in the middle, full pot insurance cost is 196$ while he has 20% equity. So insurance without fees would be around 129$ and i get charge 196 if I take it? A 50% fees? So i suspect the freaking rng to be totally rigged for whales but I'm not even allowed to pay normal fees on insurance to make sure whale gets the pot
His real equity is 50% so that is what you have to pay, do you think WPT will lose money to give you insurance?

honestly i would say his real whale equity is between 30 and 40% so the price make sens if the network want a profit
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10-01-2024 , 09:39 PM
mtts rigged too?
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10-02-2024 , 04:32 AM
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I cannot PM you since my 2plus2 acc is new. So is there other way so I can send u a message?

I submitted the video on Sep 18th, and I still haven't got any updates as of today.
If you to your profile in the client there is a number that accompanies your user ID. That's anonymous, so you could post that here and I will look into your case. Thanks
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10-02-2024 , 06:13 AM
if you guys go through with the spin changes, I am cashing out full roll and moving site.
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10-02-2024 , 07:22 AM
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Just a reminder guys to keep reporting burner account to security. You will know the profile if you play 2K/4k.
1) New account
2) Single Tabling
3) <1k hands
4) Reggy stats

I just take a screenshot on my phone and email them in. It's not too much hassle. Also, for anyone who is connected with this group, you should know that WPTG pays out for information on cheating up to $4k I believe. Thanks.
Whats the email to submit the reports?
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10-02-2024 , 10:36 AM
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if you guys go through with the spin changes, I am cashing out full roll and moving site.
What changes are being proposed? I don't think they are removing leaderboard anytime soon
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10-02-2024 , 10:37 AM
@Alex

There is a player of the year tournament leaderboard with some massive prizes up for grabs. Will there still be a fall festival (AND a 'minor' festival) that will count towards this leaderboard BEFORE WPT Wynn in December? Thank you for whatever information you can share.
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10-02-2024 , 10:43 AM
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What changes are being proposed? I don't think they are removing leaderboard anytime soon
I got an e-mail that said, they will make blind level go up every four hands.



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10-02-2024 , 11:05 AM
Here’s another perk for being a tagged « high skilled pros » :



Max bet on sports is now 50$ max on anything

I made a few bucks on sportsbets, here’s come the ban hammer. Made a fee bucks poker, here’s come the allin fish doomswitch
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10-02-2024 , 12:34 PM
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Whats the email to submit the reports?
security@wptglobal.com
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10-02-2024 , 01:21 PM
Hey @Alex,

do you have a guy name Josh working in the company? He reached me, and introduced himself as WPTG VIP manager.
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10-02-2024 , 09:37 PM
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If you to your profile in the client there is a number that accompanies your user ID. That's anonymous, so you could post that here and I will look into your case. Thanks
Oh true, thanks. My ID is: 201811
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10-03-2024 , 02:22 AM
in a 2x 4 hands and you are 10bb deep.



You play on avg with that new structur 10-12 hands. = absolut crapshot structure.

WPT is speedrunning to kill their site.

Most of the edge comes from hu play in spins and with that new structure most of that edge is gone, while keeping the same rake.

Atleast give people the option to play regular spins and reduce the rake for the faster version.


1. Global spins: 6% rake
2. Global flash: 1% rake

or you keep that new structure if you dont want two versions and make it 3% rake (2%+1%progressive bounty)

Last edited by JohnnyJam; 10-03-2024 at 02:32 AM.
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10-03-2024 , 03:56 AM
I'm sorry, but that is an absolutely terrible structure. I agree that at least some option should be given to the players, aka Stars having regular spins and hypers.
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