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05-22-2024 , 10:17 AM
My account got locked and have email about team play, I 've already reply that i have no teamplay.
So how long i got reply? About already 24h since my lastt reply?
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05-22-2024 , 10:22 AM
I been following the pattern of those accounts at this particular stake for months now. They seem to continue playing undisturbed on a daily basis.

A group of 4 players entering the tables in a spawn of 5 minutes. Usually at that stake, unless there is a big whale regulars just wait until the table seems suitable for them and it takes longer for table to fill up if there is no whale.

I am not the only player following the pattern some players actually tried to exploit the fact that they collude. We understand that they are part of the enviroment and try to adapt. I played a lot with the bots and have recorded hands of their weird play using other players blockers. I have been in the industry for 15 years or more on every big platform online at medium high stakes.
We are used to play against rta, collusion and other forms of cheating as they are present online for years now everywhere and i can easily identify those cheaters. This consistent abuse of the tables suggests for me that either there is a leak in the AI detection or bad intentions from someone inside.

Been 2 weeks since i send the daily bot accounts around 20 accounts i think, until now i just considered them as part of the enviroment. Went public with it because i trust Alex that he wants to create a fair chance for everyone, and although there methods are different they seem to make games more enjoyable for everybody, just hope that as he said this bot colluding accounts are
not a part of their strategy to make games fair, as i said patterns are obvious for anyone that has the capability to investigate and some reports were made since months now and nothing changed.

If you are a player at 10/20/40 please check how many tables have 4 players with a PFR 13 on a daily basis because most regulars have 14 or above.
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05-23-2024 , 07:25 AM
Standard enough festival day today, but there is a $55 $35K NLHE event starting in ~1 hour from now. Our $11 Daily Raise PKO is up to $7,500 guaranteed and late registration is open for another 90 minutes

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05-23-2024 , 04:52 PM
I see a bunch of regs faking their vpip/preflop raise stats, does this affect their ''rankings'' and being marked as a recreational player? Any possibility for you to filter stats that appear on each player more transparent? Stats from heads-up or 3 handed shouldn't be counted cause they all ''hack'' it.

They open new tables, play heads-up with a friend I assume and just insta click raise call infinite until they pump on their stats enough to look fishy and absurd. Then you see regs/pros with 49% vpip stats while in reality it is probably 20% and they just fooled us.
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05-24-2024 , 04:27 AM
We have several day 1 flights today, including 2 more for the $3,500 WPT Championship ($1,000,000 GTD). We are on pace to beat the guarantee quite nicely, and you can start to qualify for today's from $1.10! The overall winner will get their nickname & winning hand etched onto the Mike Sexton WPT Champions Cup



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I see a bunch of regs faking their vpip/preflop raise stats, does this affect their ''rankings'' and being marked as a recreational player? ...

They open new tables, play heads-up with a friend I assume and just insta click raise call infinite until they pump on their stats enough to look fishy and absurd. Then you see regs/pros with 49% vpip stats while in reality it is probably 20% and they just fooled us.
If you want to DM me nicknames/UIDs of players you think might be trying to abuse something on WPT Global, I will pass on the information provided to our security team!
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05-24-2024 , 06:56 AM
Please:
better formatting of table size/stacks and betsizes for pc, everything it relatevely to small requiring tables to be giant to be readable,
usable hh replayer, on pc its pretty much useless. Why not make it popout so it wpuldn't disturb the game or at very least make a hand reviewable in one window which does not cover a whole table? Currently I barely have enough time to find a hh I want to review and its my time to act, have to close replayer to resume the game and start all over so I would MAYBE make it to review hand in time before its my time to act again....
And it would also be nice if you guys would add color code/note taking so at least in these regards it would be a bit more fair vs players who use extra tools and have much smoother gameplay (hud+color code+not taking). It's just too much incentive to take a risk for these extra features when soft is so underdeveloped...
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05-24-2024 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by popers
I see a bunch of regs faking their vpip/preflop raise stats, does this affect their ''rankings'' and being marked as a recreational player? Any possibility for you to filter stats that appear on each player more transparent? Stats from heads-up or 3 handed shouldn't be counted cause they all ''hack'' it.

They open new tables, play heads-up with a friend I assume and just insta click raise call infinite until they pump on their stats enough to look fishy and absurd. Then you see regs/pros with 49% vpip stats while in reality it is probably 20% and they just fooled us.

The fact that this type of things keep happening makes me wonder how you can catch bots or collusion which Is way More subtle than this stuff??? I reported exactly the same behaviour not long ago
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05-25-2024 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by funnythanh
My account got locked and have email about team play, I 've already reply that i have no teamplay.
So how long i got reply? About already 24h since my lastt reply?
Please DM me your screen name or user ID and I’ll see what’s going on and if I can speed things up for you.

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Originally Posted by popers
I see a bunch of regs faking their vpip/preflop raise stats, does this affect their ''rankings'' and being marked as a recreational player? Any possibility for you to filter stats that appear on each player more transparent? Stats from heads-up or 3 handed shouldn't be counted cause they all ''hack'' it.

They open new tables, play heads-up with a friend I assume and just insta click raise call infinite until they pump on their stats enough to look fishy and absurd. Then you see regs/pros with 49% vpip stats while in reality it is probably 20% and they just fooled us.
No, this doesn’t affect FairGame (the ecology management system) but it might affect the stats that are shown for these players in the client. To be honest I’m
not sure what has been done to prevent this kind of abuse, but I’ll look into it and make sure it’s taken seriously. Please DM me with either your user ID (if you’ve already reported this to support) or the IDs of the players.

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Originally Posted by TheFlipper
Please:
better formatting of table size/stacks and betsizes for pc, everything it relatevely to small requiring tables to be giant to be readable,
usable hh replayer, on pc its pretty much useless. Why not make it popout so it wpuldn't disturb the game or at very least make a hand reviewable in one window which does not cover a whole table? Currently I barely have enough time to find a hh I want to review and its my time to act, have to close replayer to resume the game and start all over so I would MAYBE make it to review hand in time before its my time to act again....
And it would also be nice if you guys would add color code/note taking so at least in these regards it would be a bit more fair vs players who use extra tools and have much smoother gameplay (hud+color code+not taking). It's just too much incentive to take a risk for these extra features when soft is so underdeveloped...
100%, all of these improvements are already planned.
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05-25-2024 , 04:56 AM
The penultimate day of our $7,000,000 guaranteed Spring Festival starts in a few minutes with a turbo flight to the $22 Spring Festival Mini Championship Day 2 ($150,000 GTD). A hyper-turbo flight will also start & finish before the day 2 begins at 10:00 UTC-5. Over $550K is guaranteed today, with the largest tournament being the $2,100 High Roller PKO ($250,000 GTD). ~65 people have already won feeders into the high roller, with the last chance for that starting at 10:20 UTC-5, where there are 8 seats guaranteed!

Several day 1 flights run today to our $220 Spring Festival Championship & $3,500 WPT Championship, with those day 2s tomorrow

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05-25-2024 , 03:12 PM
Where’s the high hands jackpot money coming from? I see no information on website, and those are so high and easy to hit, I assume it’s a special rake on top of the regular rake structure table?
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05-25-2024 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by popers
Where’s the high hands jackpot money coming from? I see no information on website, and those are so high and easy to hit, I assume it’s a special rake on top of the regular rake structure table?
Its take from everyhand, 1bb per hand play, even only preflop.
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05-26-2024 , 02:04 AM
As the last sats for the $3500 are coming up, and prizepool incls $530 tickets; what happens if you win back your buyin in the form of a ticket, but there's nothing left to play? Or the only thing left to play you can't?

Do you lose the value of the ticket, or does it get refunded as $T/cash?
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05-26-2024 , 04:52 AM
A very busy day, where we are awarding over $2,000,000, has just started! We have 2 more flights for both the $220 Spring Festival Championship ($500,000 GTD) and the $3,500 WPT Championship ($1,000,000 GTD) starting in a couple of hours, with feeders running to all now. Day 2s for both will start a few minutes after the last day 1s end. We also have a couple of $530 events, a $530 Sunday Builder with a $60,000 guarantee and later this evening a $530 Last Chance Turbo with $40,000 guaranteed. Our normal Slam events are also featuring today, so it should be a good day for players looking for some overlay!



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Originally Posted by Ist Das Crazyboi
As the last sats for the $3500 are coming up, and prizepool incls $530 tickets; what happens if you win back your buyin in the form of a ticket, but there's nothing left to play? Or the only thing left to play you can't?

Do you lose the value of the ticket, or does it get refunded as $T/cash?
The general rule is that festival tickets will expire once the festival is over, however we do review cases where it is not possible to use tickets due to there being no more opportunities to use them. This is done manually, once the festival is over and players will receive tickets for other tournaments that we run. If they are wanting tickets for the next festival (unannounced as of yet), they can contact us and I will exchange their tickets for the next festival. There will be no exchanges into cash and unfortunately $T is a ways off still
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05-26-2024 , 09:41 AM
Hello, there is something going to WPN software that my tables aren't automatically opening at the tournamet starts.

someno know wath could it be?


i am onling using jurojin, but for a long time it have did worked well with WTP and thats why i don't think this is the problem.
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05-26-2024 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by popers
Where’s the high hands jackpot money coming from? I see no information on website, and those are so high and easy to hit, I assume it’s a special rake on top of the regular rake structure table?
This is how it's described in the High Hand Jackpot T&Cs:

The High Hand Jackpot is funded by taking one big blind from any player who wins over 20 big blinds in a pot at a table where the Jackpot is running. This means, for example, if a player wins $40 or more in a hand at a $1/$2 table, $2 of it will go towards the Jackpot prize pool. If two players split a pot and win at least $40 each in this example, they both contribute $2 to the Jackpot, but if two players split a pot and win less than 20 big blinds each, neither pays towards the Jackpot, even if the total pot exceeds 20bb.



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Originally Posted by Sarava777
Hello, there is something going to WPN software that my tables aren't automatically opening at the tournamet starts.

someno know wath could it be?


i am onling using jurojin, but for a long time it have did worked well with WTP and thats why i don't think this is the problem.
We're looking into this.
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05-28-2024 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarava777
Hello, there is something going to WPN software that my tables aren't automatically opening at the tournamet starts.

someno know wath could it be?


i am onling using jurojin, but for a long time it have did worked well with WTP and thats why i don't think this is the problem.
Do all jurojin features work in WPT? Is it possible to choose different types of bets?
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05-29-2024 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by eduargentina
Do all jurojin features work in WPT? Is it possible to choose different types of bets?

Only tiling and basic hotkeys - fold call bet, for me anyways. But the tiling thing is huge for me, for the first month I have been resizing the tables manually and that was a drag.
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05-29-2024 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WPT Global Alex
This is how it's described in the High Hand Jackpot T&Cs:

The High Hand Jackpot is funded by taking one big blind from any player who wins over 20 big blinds in a pot at a table where the Jackpot is running. This means, for example, if a player wins $40 or more in a hand at a $1/$2 table, $2 of it will go towards the Jackpot prize pool. If two players split a pot and win at least $40 each in this example, they both contribute $2 to the Jackpot, but if two players split a pot and win less than 20 big blinds each, neither pays towards the Jackpot, even if the total pot exceeds 20bb.




Isn't this crazy and way too high? Tables are either 8 handed or 6, not always all seats filled, let's say avg 7 players.

Let's say you play 30k hands in a month at 1/2$, it's almost impossible for a pot to be under 20bb considering straddle and antes if we include preflop and non-call bets for the pot size.

So you win let's say 30k/7 players 20bb pots per month = 4 285 hands won, 4 000 of them were 20bb+, so you paid 8 000$/40 buy-ins in jackpot fees at 1-2$ stakes in the month with not that much volume played? How crazy is that, on top of regular rake of course.

I know you are suppose to win some part of jackpot sometimes but it is top heavy prizepool with only royal flush could make a dent on this paid jackpot fees so you never gonna accomplish the jackpot ev unless you walk on water.

Last edited by popers; 05-29-2024 at 02:13 PM.
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05-29-2024 , 05:30 PM
I have a question.

Do you have a plan to show statistics for tournament? In Pokerking other players can see it but not WPT. It's disavantage for us to play tournament on WPT.
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05-29-2024 , 05:30 PM
better learn how to walk on water then mate


also, I just had an issue where I was playing on my phone, I looked at something else on my phone then came back on the app and there were no more sounds? is there a fix for this?
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05-30-2024 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by popers
I know you are suppose to win some part of jackpot sometimes but it is top heavy prizepool with only royal flush could make a dent on this paid jackpot fees so you never gonna accomplish the jackpot ev unless you walk on water.
As a player I don't disagree with you, as the person running WPTG I can only say that the jackpot is extremely popular and it would probably hurt the site to remove it. We have some ideas for how to improve it in future though.

On the plus side even despite the additional jackpot contribution, the typical winning reg on WPTG still wins more than 5x in bb/100 terms than they would on Stars or GG. The games are that good.

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Originally Posted by 65Nancy
I have a question.

Do you have a plan to show statistics for tournament? In Pokerking other players can see it but not WPT. It's disavantage for us to play tournament on WPT.
Yes, generally if a feature is available with our Asia partners we will also introduce it in future. But we have different priorities to them so it may not be done at the same time, and I don't have a specific delivery date for this on WPTG.

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also, I just had an issue where I was playing on my phone, I looked at something else on my phone then came back on the app and there were no more sounds? is there a fix for this?
I've reported this to our team, but if you could contact customercare@wptglobal.com so they can ask you some technical questions that will help us to narrow down the issue, I'd really appreciate it!
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05-30-2024 , 10:08 AM
Hey Alex,

How long do you think an investigation on the collusion bots would last ? Been a week or so now, i sent around 20 accounts that they use for colluding and they still play on a dialy basis.

Can you confirm that the investigation is ongoing and give an estimate when this blatant colluding behaviour will stop on the platform?
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05-30-2024 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ghindos
How long do you think an investigation on the collusion bots would last ? Been a week or so now, i sent around 20 accounts that they use for colluding and they still play on a dialy basis.
I can't say for sure how long a collusion investigation might last I'm afraid, it depends on many factors such as the complexity of the case. However if you reported accounts and they continue to play then the most likely explanation is that we don't believe those accounts are involved in collusion.

When I'm able to report back on this case I'll do so
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05-30-2024 , 11:16 AM
I understand, we'll patiently wait for the wpt team to do the player investigation. We'll conduct an investigation on our own with all the evidence that we can gather and if the final decision we'll be in favour of the colluders we'll post all the info we gathered so the community can determine for themselves if they want to play against those players on the platform.

We have all trust in wpt team to do the right thing for the poker ecology. Until then we'll just adapt to the platform endorsing this kind of behaviour.
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05-31-2024 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ghindos
Hey Alex,

How long do you think an investigation on the collusion bots would last ? Been a week or so now, i sent around 20 accounts that they use for colluding and they still play on a dialy basis.

Can you confirm that the investigation is ongoing and give an estimate when this blatant colluding behaviour will stop on the platform?
I'll just chime in with my experience.

I reported an extremely blatant mtt abuser (the guy was literally making accounts with almost the same name, and entering 4-5 accounts into a pool of about 10 players to KO himself (super KO, not progressive).

The guy disappeared a few days after my report and I forgot about it, then I received an email thanking me for the report and $550 in tickets about 3 weeks later
I had played a lot vs this guy, he managed this incredible exploit for a while.

So cash games with less obvious abuse, and with players being slightly more smart than using almost the same bot-generated names, and manipulating 8bet pots preflop to get 3-4 of their accounts allin with trash etc, I'm sure it will take much longer than this.

If they take too long I'm sure we'd all love to see any reports. I've had my suspicions in cash when 4 or so new (less than 10k hands) players enter a table similar times and all have 30/13 stats or so, and all make tank-bluff catches on rivers with mixed or even bad bluff-catches (card sharing)? But I could just be paranoid lol.
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