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06-17-2024 , 09:19 AM
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Thanks, I'll pass this on
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06-18-2024 , 03:05 AM
Hello. I have the same case. The WPT blocked me from playing on most tables. I only see 1, sometimes 2 or 3 tables being played, I don't know the algorithm how it works. Of course, I win a lot there at stakes of 124 and 248. The support replied that it was supposed to be like that. Remember this when you create an account on WPT.
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06-18-2024 , 05:17 AM
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Hello. I have the same case. The WPT blocked me from playing on most tables. I only see 1, sometimes 2 or 3 tables being played, I don't know the algorithm how it works. Of course, I win a lot there at stakes of 124 and 248. The support replied that it was supposed to be like that. Remember this when you create an account on WPT.
I wrote a blog that explains in detail how it works: https://wptglobal.com/blog/how-does-...s-are-beatable

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imagine for a second yourself as host of a private poker game, and you can invite anybody in the world to play. Who would you invite if you wanted to run the longest-lasting, most sustainable game?

You wouldn’t invite only pros. They wouldn’t want to play against each other anyway.

You wouldn’t invite only casual players either, because the game wouldn’t last very long.

Most likely you would invite a small number of pros, to ensure the game was running as often as possible. Pros bring consistency. You’d be picky about the pros you invite - you’d want pros with social skills and who give plenty of action. But you would mostly invite casual players. This balance is the most sustainable. Indeed, the market for private or ‘club-based’ games, both live and online, has thrived over the past few years.

WPT Global’s FairGame AI tech does pretty much the same thing a private game host would do. We know the key to successful ecology is to maintain games with a balanced ratio of casual / inexperienced players and highly skilled / professional players.

FairGame does this by:

1. Predicting the win rate (an indicator of skill level) of every player using AI
2. Limiting the number of seats at each table that can be occupied by highly skilled professional players

In the majority of our cash games, a maximum of two seats can be occupied by highly-skilled pros. This means at least six seats are occupied by casual players. (The exact numbers can vary between table types).

This is better for everyone involved, for:

- The casual player playing their very first session actually has a fair chance
- The experienced pro is going to beat the rake and have a reasonable win-rate
- The site (WPT Global) keeps players around for longer because they have a better experience
If you can't see many tables it's likely that you are a highly skilled player. If this is the case, you will not see tables that you're unable to sit at (because there are already 2 pros at the table) and will only see tables with seats that are open to you.

If you find yourself in this situation often, the best thing to do is to simply start a table. Our games fill quickly, and you're guaranteed a good game.
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06-18-2024 , 06:43 AM
Hey Alex, can you give any more info on the colluders situations as it is going on for months now, without your team being able to stop them. The pattern they use is very obvious and this type of behaviour being allowed on the platform for so long can just damage the credibility of the games. They play the same stakes (10/20/40) on a daily basis and i see a lot of regulars engaging in games with them it is clear at this point that either your team or the AI security is doing something wrong. In my 20 years of poker i have never seen a platform not being able to stop so obvious collusion. How can you preach on integrity and security of games and funds if you can't stop 3-4 players with same stats joining the table in the spawn of 5 minutes using donks and bluffs on 77x when other player has folded and has a 7, they also have sizeing leaks in this kind of spots but i would let the regulars discover them as it cost me a lot to do so.

I know you can't guarantee the fairness of the games entirely, but allowing them on the platform, or not being able to stop them is a big red flag on the trust you will get from the regulars.
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06-18-2024 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ghindos
Hey Alex, can you give any more info on the colluders situations as it is going on for months now, without your team being able to stop them. The pattern they use is very obvious and this type of behaviour being allowed on the platform for so long can just damage the credibility of the games. They play the same stakes (10/20/40) on a daily basis and i see a lot of regulars engaging in games with them it is clear at this point that either your team or the AI security is doing something wrong. In my 20 years of poker i have never seen a platform not being able to stop so obvious collusion. How can you preach on integrity and security of games and funds if you can't stop 3-4 players with same stats joining the table in the spawn of 5 minutes using donks and bluffs on 77x when other player has folded and has a 7, they also have sizeing leaks in this kind of spots but i would let the regulars discover them as it cost me a lot to do so.

I know you can't guarantee the fairness of the games entirely, but allowing them on the platform, or not being able to stop them is a big red flag on the trust you will get from the regulars.
Hi - you'll get an email from our security team soon, if you wish you can share it here for the benefit of others. We really appreciate your report which helped us to shut down this group (and find related accounts), compensation will be issued in due course. We don't believe they are still active but if you feel differently please let us know.
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06-18-2024 , 03:41 PM
How many tables are running of PLO 0.05/0.10? Thnx
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06-18-2024 , 05:09 PM
Just played against them again today that is why i wrote here as well as sent an email to the team, they just used 3 accounts today and 2 were under 2k hands . Thank you for all the good work with the platform although there are a few setbacks, poker seems fun once again.
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Yesterday , 10:19 AM
Dear Paul,

I hope this message finds you well.

Your detailed and thorough report was reviewed by our Game Integrity team and has significantly contributed to assisting us in this investigation.

Thanks to your comprehensive report, our team was able to confirm that the accounts were in violation of our Terms and Conditions. Whilst we can not share more details about the investigation, we can assure you that the accounts you reported have had their funds confiscated and have been permanently closed, and we have also taken decisive action to ensure that any similar accounts will no longer be active on WPT Global going forward. Our team will now take the steps necessary to redistribute the confiscated funds to players who were negatively impacted.

Separately, we truly appreciate the effort you put into your report, it is players like you who help us uphold the highest standards of security and fairness. As a token of our gratitude, we are pleased to offer you additional compensation of $5,000 for the information you contributed to this case. This amount will be credited to your account shortly and will be available for your immediate use.

Thanks again for your continued support and we look forward to hearing from you in the future.

Should you have any further concerns or require assistance, please do not hesitate to reach out to us.

Best regards,
WPT Global Team




I can confirm that the money were added to the account, and as far as i saw for a few days i did not see the old colluder accounts that i have reported. There is a problem because they make new accounts and it is imposible for WPTG team to stop them playing for good. Confiscating funds and giving it to players should encourage other regulars like me to make serious reports. I would advise players to make a solid case about the suspicious behaviour that they encounter, and my experience is a proof that action is being taken. I will continue to watch the tables and make reports if there is the case.

Thank you Alex for being a man of your word, and i can confirm that what you are doing right now is what the industry needs . Hope WPTG develops into the best platform online as GG poker is a very bad player experience, full of RTAs and a rake system that enslaves players and Pokerstars at the moment lacks liquidity and their only direction is down if they do not decide to change something.
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Yesterday , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ghindos
Dear Paul,

I hope this message finds you well.

Your detailed and thorough report was reviewed by our Game Integrity team and has significantly contributed to assisting us in this investigation.

Thanks to your comprehensive report, our team was able to confirm that the accounts were in violation of our Terms and Conditions. Whilst we can not share more details about the investigation, we can assure you that the accounts you reported have had their funds confiscated and have been permanently closed, and we have also taken decisive action to ensure that any similar accounts will no longer be active on WPT Global going forward. Our team will now take the steps necessary to redistribute the confiscated funds to players who were negatively impacted.

Separately, we truly appreciate the effort you put into your report, it is players like you who help us uphold the highest standards of security and fairness. As a token of our gratitude, we are pleased to offer you additional compensation of $5,000 for the information you contributed to this case. This amount will be credited to your account shortly and will be available for your immediate use.

Thanks again for your continued support and we look forward to hearing from you in the future.

Should you have any further concerns or require assistance, please do not hesitate to reach out to us.

Best regards,
WPT Global Team




I can confirm that the money were added to the account, and as far as i saw for a few days i did not see the old colluder accounts that i have reported. There is a problem because they make new accounts and it is imposible for WPTG team to stop them playing for good. Confiscating funds and giving it to players should encourage other regulars like me to make serious reports. I would advise players to make a solid case about the suspicious behaviour that they encounter, and my experience is a proof that action is being taken. I will continue to watch the tables and make reports if there is the case.

Thank you Alex for being a man of your word, and i can confirm that what you are doing right now is what the industry needs . Hope WPTG develops into the best platform online as GG poker is a very bad player experience, full of RTAs and a rake system that enslaves players and Pokerstars at the moment lacks liquidity and their only direction is down if they do not decide to change something.
Great news!!!

Can you share the usernames? I play those games regularly so I can be aware this type of behaviour!!

Great work
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Today , 02:22 AM
Great work ghindos, thank you for your effort!

Sorry I doubted you originally. Glad you were compensated for doing the work too.

Thanks WPTG for acting on this information too. I have faith in WPTG to do the right things going forward.
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