Jackpots sng"s BOTS:

Inturnwetrust
Myverdictulost
Zemo21
Aurora21
Betterchoice24
Nerfpeasant
Frangciii

Most of them grinding at stakes of 25$ some of them sometimes 40$
Prob 10$ also full with them.
Most of them from Russian espect one from Kazah

TranceLover20 is for sure suspicious but if it is a bot it is one of the newer ExCALibur6/Wraper98 family and not the old school PennyHill family. Orginally I thought there was no way as its river bet was far too low but now after I have more hands on this account the stats are starting to converge on the ExCALibur6 family of bots. I still do not have enough hands to tell yet or even draw reasonable statistical conclusions about any of these accounts.

The first things that immediately set off alarm bells to monitor the account were:

1) Ukraine location
2) Showing up out of nowhere and instantly playing midstakes and never playing outside a very strict and tight stake range.
3)Name tell that is similar in nature to other known bots
4)Always full stacking for the table maximum

These things in themselves are not proof of anything but just some basic features that make me want to monitor the stats of an account

The note/color coding system does not work reliably and I've been forced to use my HUD notes instead. Not only did these fraudulent crooks wipe out priceless thousands of meticulous notes I had over years of playing, they continue to do it after May 20th.

The bots were never gone. These publicly available bots are basically scams. Please stop spreading lies about things you have no understanding of. It makes little sense for the PennyHill PLO bots to be sold at all and not for 50 bucks or some absurdly low price as it would be far more profitable for the coder to run the bots himself and avoid decreasing his EV.

lozgod has been spreading lies for atleast as long as I have been on this forum

Anyone know anything about glittertime34? US player but plays like a bot or an ACR shill.

Site is running smooth is a stretch. HH's for the hands that you either get moved to another table or lost a big hand and got knocked out are missing. It's impossible to keep any kind of stats study on your variance when all the big hands never produce a HH.
I get annoyed with how useless PT4 has become on WPN, I dunno if that's the plan or they are just clueless.

Good luck looking up game history to record/track results(expect SNG's), because they are no where to be found for tourneys. Might have to use SS just to fill in my results.

Site is still clunky for some PC's since the update, I can run all other poker sites fine and even play some recent games.

Has there ever been a OSS without a crash? We shall see i guess.

I'm not seeing any Sat's for OSS, hope that add some soon.

Problems is, who do you complain too? Support doesn't know or do much.

Is it a US location? If yes, ~99.99999% chance it is not a bot.

I think I recognize that name as a US MTT regular, most likely not a bot.

I think there is a strong possibility that this kind of crap may be intentional. It is impossible to monitor stats of accounts of games that you do not directly play in unless you were to directly get hand histories or stats from someone else that played in the games. Previously statname.net collected roughly 50% of hands and it was very easy to check if an account was playing bot frequencies. Also if random hands are not generating histories this allows for bot stats to become distorted and blend in easier. Many of my missing HHs happened to be against bots but seeing some tables have 4 bots this should be expected.

Glittertime plays a ton of ODs, sat with him hundreds of games and highly doubt he is a bot, PLO8 ODs

Yeah, My big hands I get sucked out on, get knock out of a tourney are neither in the PT4, HH folder or on the client.

It's a real bummer, best way i can tell right now for totals is to use the "Financial History" tab. Problem is you have to add up each time it ladders, which is very time consuming. I guess back to old pen and paper or notepad, hard to do that in the moment when you are playing 4+ tables. I might start using snipping tool and then fill it in later...sad really.

I bought PT4 more for tracking my bottom line and for reviewing MY OWN hands to see if i played them wrong. Impossible now if it's gone.

If you're playing a tournament, click the Lobby button, exit out of said table where note(s) disappeared, then from the Lobby hit "TAKE MY SEAT." This seems to do the trick for me. Basically, just exit then refresh the table when you notice this glitch.

I'm 99% sure RB isn't being tracked correctly. Played one $12 hyper last night (first tournament in a little over a week) as a test and it still says I've paid $0 in tourney fees. Not sure what to do other then shrug and hope for another lump payment at some point in the future. Tracked RB is still well under what PT4 says I've paid as well.

This is microstakes, NL2 and NL5 so it's not something I'm gonna get up in arms about, but I'd be pretty upset if I was playing NL50+ and we were talking about 10x the amount of money.

How to avoid bot ring cardsharing: Start new table> play heads up > leave when foreign players or known bots show up > profit???

-color code the bots
-if we dont play cash with them, they will eventually find another site or another game format to play.

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Can't bots use a US VPN to mask their location? I don't know thats why I ask.

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Disconnected about 25 times for 1-2 seconds since last night. Anyone else experiencing this?

Getting it right now playing $4 PLO8 Freezeout, keeps telling me disconnected,

Also, tourney info in lobby says "your request has been interrupted. Please contact support."

PT4 table alignment is all messed up now too.

They just cancelled everything.
and $5 missing from a cancelled tourney

I am getting this lobby message every 2-3 seconds. OK i thought I was the only one. I contacted support about it and they said theyll report it to the techs.

edit: they are under maintenance again

Same... came back up after the updater for about 1/2 hr. People randomly were getting disc'd now they booted everyone off again.

Ugh, all the tourneys i play at this time are gone. Have to wait until later tonight i guess.

Still saying: "your request has been interrupted. Please contact support."

was supposed to be a 30 minute update, been over 2 hours and nothing is working

Does that surprise you?

Nope, but you hope at some point they could do an update smoothly...wishful thinking i suppose.
Makes me feel better about the upcoming OSS LOL.

Don't think this would really work at mid stakes +, they usually have scripts as well. You might get 1-2 hands in at each table, seems like it would get pretty frustrating. Now, if you had a script to open and close tables to avoid them. Hey, that might work kind of well.

Haven’t played in a while. Having problems with mobile site. Is it still limited or can you play tourneys on it now?

no tourneys displayed in the lobby right now correct?

Currently there is one bot from USA that plays PLO imo. I believe this bot has a different profile from most of the ones HOG666 has discovered. Generally speaking the bots are from another country a very high % of the time (almost always).

If you played here, you'd realize if you opted to not play with any of the bots, your volume would be 0 or essentially 0. Previously, the bots didn't play the No Rathole games, but more recently have been modified to do so.

its on and off - they put them for a few minutes and then remove them and then put them up again for a few minutes and remove them, probably happened like 10 times already

Whats their name on there? You can PM me if you don't want to put it.

when acr said they were bringing cyclone tournaments today I didnt think it would f**k the whole server, wtf they blew all the other tournies away