I grimmed him at 15/30 with $300, well I doubled by him folding most of his buttons and not playing any hands but then I came back for one hand after leaving and grimmed em

I don't feel particularly qualified to answer this question, but so far my experience has been good. I joined BCP/WPN right about when all the loyalty stuff started getting sorted out. CS chat has usually been instant and helpful, and I've never had to badger anybody about incorrect point tallying or getting crash/cancellation refunds (for MTT's/SNGs), although once at the beginning it did take more than 24 hours to get a full refund for a few crashed SNG tables, iirc. (I also did my first withdrawal just last night using ETH, and it was in my BC account within ~12 hours. So that was nice and painless, although I should note that I voluntarily sent in my ID and had my account "certified" a couple of months ago before I deposited, because I live in WA and wanted to get any potential shenanigans out of the way).

At the time I signed up, a couple of months ago, I checked out ACR as well, and the lobbies looked almost exactly the same. Until this distinction with the ACR-only freebuys, everything has seemed the same and I was under the impression that they were basically just the same site. Even the CS guy I talked to today from within the BCP client live chat didn't know what BP/PP were, but was familiar with the ACR versions of the terms (RP/CP).

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It is impossible to know if your points are correct or not because of the vast number of hand histories that are missing. Also the MTT history for this year does not go back prior to May 20th. It isn't rare for a hand history to not generate, it is extremely common. I was way off for last month even with the rake tracked for the ones that generated hhs and not counting my mtts. I am guessing I am probably being shorted in the neighborhood of $4-7k worth of points but I cannot know for sure how much it is because I don't know the exact frequency of the missing hhs and they seem to be all ins most of the time (hands where rake was capped).

WPN froze my account a few weeks ago accusing me of grimming although I was not grimming and have been grimmed countless times by scumbags like cannuli.

What does the term grimming mean? I’ve never heard it before.

Grimming explained from an old post months ago.

oh NM I sat and posted $30 blind he raised $60 and I jammed, fold then I quit. I guess I would probably be banned by now if that was brimming. Always though it was jamming over the button raise with any two because the button is usually raising first hand, then leaving

What stakes was he doing this at anyway?

So you can still go south in the cash games....awesome.

There’s barely any non zoom tables going nowadays? I went ahead and withdrew my roll for now, gonna play on ignition if its going to be zoom only.

Twice in the past hour every single table has froze up and all of my hands force folded.

Guess what dominates Ignition?

Seriously, when are you going to make your mark and move?

I meant that if I am forced to play zoom, might as well move to Ignition and play zoom there.

Copy that

It has done that for me when I hit the sit out button on one table. Not just sitting out but a full temporary disconnect/sit out with the disconnect warning up to 6 times.

can you not min raise from small blind?

WPN is enforcing anti-grimming? I’ve seen players do it in the micros which I found funny. Going around table to table taking nickles and dimes.

No. It is rare that anyone gets harrassed for any type of behavior on WPN. HOG's account is the only account I've heard of that was temporarily frozen for a non-bot related reason. Also at some stakes and tables the software currently allows you to instantly re-enter the same table after ratholing. The WPN software is pathetic through and through.

All stakes and tables allow for instant ratholing (no rathole tables seem to be somewhat resistant but also allow for ratholing at stacks over 100bb randomly). There is nothing saying it is not allowed (such as a rathole timer) so I do it. It helps to minimize my disadvantage on tables with multiple bots.

zzz888zzz started playing NLO8 cash. First time a PLO bot has been spotted playing this format(or any o8 format). Could just be the operator manually playing at these tables for fun or something.

The software is so bad that I doubt the no rat hole timer was intended, but maybe since they have no rat hole tables it is possible. I'm not against ratholing per say, especially since many games run around recreational players that eventually leave if they get too deep. However, the table minimum should be raised to 50bb if rat holing is allowed. Either way it is minor compared to their bot and rb/rewards issues.

When its heads up in a sng or mtt, you can't raise less than 2.5x preflop or something? I don't recall it being like this a while back?

I'm not sure they intended a rathole timer. On the IGSoft software there was a visual timer that showed how much time you had left, no such timer exists on this one.

Regardless of their intention, they can't even get the basic physics (position, preflop bet increments, ect) of the game right so it shouldn't come as a surprise that they are the only site that allows for instant ratholing.

If anyone seriously believes WPN is not insolvent at this point try this experiment. Email support and request a copy of your tournament buyin history for 2019. They will not give you it.

So I assume that now, you have finally quit playing there? Because when you were complaining before and were asked why you still played there, you claimed to just be doing so because of the way the VIP program works, and that you had to play out the year. But now you're saying they're insolvent, full stop. Not that they might be, or could be, but they are. Earlier today, you called them Lock 2.0. So, since you're not getting your money, I assume you're not wasting your time playing there any more.

Well seeing it has been nearly 6 months of outright theft and lies and non-functional software to boot, I am just praying that I am wrong but my gut instinct tells me that I'm not. I still have to play the year out and take whatever they decide to give me.

This is laughably false. If you think they are Lock 2.0, or insolvent, it doesn't matter how far along you are in the rewards program. You clearly feel they aren't insolvent or you would quit playing there. I laughed at all the idiots that stayed at Lock after it was clear they were insolvent and I stopped playing there immediately, like almost 3 months before most people decided yea I'm gonna stop playing there. Put your time and money where your mouth is, if you really feel they are what you claim they are stop playing yesterday. The fact that you keep playing proves that you believe they are solvent, and let's others know it is safe to play there.

I think incompetent would be a better choice of word than insolvent. While they COULD be withholding your tournament history so you can't track your VIP points owed because they can't afford to pay you, I think it is more likely they can't do it in a timely manner. Sure, it is a sign of being disorganized, but not getting a buy-in history isn't a smoking gun.

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