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04-13-2012 , 12:22 AM
I'm trying to withdraw, but the links on the withdrawal page are all messed up and I can't choose anything, whereas the deposit page is fine, is anyone else having this problem?
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04-13-2012 , 03:34 AM
As an MTT specialist...Just to put my 2 cents in, I'm not that thrilled with the fact that all the tourneys are re-entry now. Since it adjusts the number of payout spots to reflect the total number of entries (including re-entries), it has the effect of flattening out an already flat structure even more. Hypothetically, if say 18 people signed up for a tourney but each one re-entered several times, each one could end up "in the money". I don't know, it's kind of silly when you re-enter a couple times and the minimum cash is barely more than one entry. I agree with the earlier poster about the structure being too flat to begin with (often first only gets like 20% of the pool).

So yeah, not real happy about this change. That being said, most everything else about this site so far has been great...Good software (a couple improvements needed tho), good service, fast payouts (the debit card is amazing), and a growing player pool. Maybe make the re-entry tourneys to only be SOME of the MTT's tho???
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04-13-2012 , 06:10 AM
What's the cash out time frame for the quickest option? Thanks
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04-13-2012 , 10:21 AM
I registered on ACR and was clicking around, when received an error message saying there is something wrong with my account (did not deposit nor played a single hand) Contacted support and was told I cannot play on ACR due to "suspicious activity". Sounds like a joke.
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04-13-2012 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by joydivisionboy
As an MTT specialist...Just to put my 2 cents in, I'm not that thrilled with the fact that all the tourneys are re-entry now. Since it adjusts the number of payout spots to reflect the total number of entries (including re-entries), it has the effect of flattening out an already flat structure even more. Hypothetically, if say 18 people signed up for a tourney but each one re-entered several times, each one could end up "in the money". I don't know, it's kind of silly when you re-enter a couple times and the minimum cash is barely more than one entry. I agree with the earlier poster about the structure being too flat to begin with (often first only gets like 20% of the pool).

So yeah, not real happy about this change. That being said, most everything else about this site so far has been great...Good software (a couple improvements needed tho), good service, fast payouts (the debit card is amazing), and a growing player pool. Maybe make the re-entry tourneys to only be SOME of the MTT's tho???
Yesterday (late afternoon or early evening, not sure) I checked all of the touraments up to $50, and there was 1 freezeout, at $40. This effectively triples bankroll requirements, because to play an MTT, the cheapest option now is to play a tournament with 1 rebuy and 1 add-on. (I'm assuming that most players would not want to skip the rebuy and addon and be at a huge chip disadvantage.)
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04-13-2012 , 12:15 PM
I was going to deposit on ACR until I looked at the lobby. I play Heads up SNG's.....why is the rake so high? $100+$5 for a super turbo and $100+$7.50 for a regular turbo? That's crazy, should be more like $100+$2 and $100+$5. I would have to believe action would get going a lot quicker in these if the rake was lowered to a reasonable level. I personally will not deposit.
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04-13-2012 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by joydivisionboy
Maybe make the re-entry tourneys to only be SOME of the MTT's tho???
The only reason every tourney is rebuy is the player pools aren't big enough to reach decent guarantees... so I understand it at this point. Hopefully when business picks up they will adjust this.
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04-13-2012 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ratm2525
I was going to deposit on ACR until I looked at the lobby. I play Heads up SNG's.....why is the rake so high? $100+$5 for a super turbo and $100+$7.50 for a regular turbo? That's crazy, should be more like $100+$2 and $100+$5. I would have to believe action would get going a lot quicker in these if the rake was lowered to a reasonable level. I personally will not deposit.


Rake in cash games are ridiculous too. Going to be real tough for a micro player to come out profitable
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04-13-2012 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by A MTT PRO
The only reason every tourney is rebuy is the player pools aren't big enough to reach decent guarantees... so I understand it at this point. Hopefully when business picks up they will adjust this.
That explanation makes sense, thank you. But it's awful tough on a new player who wants to give poker a try, makes a small deposit and finds out that he can't play an MTT (except for freerolls or satellites) for less than $9.
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04-13-2012 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by grenzen
Freezeouts being eliminated to reentry tournaments? Isn't this an unfair advantage to bigger rolled players? That's quite the decision to eliminate ALL freezeouts.
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
Agreed. The rebuy tournament at the WSOP was nicknamed the buy-a-bracelet tournament for a reason.
I have communicated regularly with online support, and I thanked them for having more MTT freezeouts, including one at my level. I even said that the one with 15-minute levels and 2,500 starting chips was a game-changer for me. I had been playing mostly micro SNGs, waiting anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes for them to start, because all of the micro tournaments had rebuys and add-ons.
I'm a American who is pretty gunshy about putting a lot of money on any site right now, so I decided to put $50 on the site and grind it up. I am now at $100. The tournament to which I was referring is at the $5 level, and with a $100 bankroll that's a real stretch. But I think that the 2,500 chip/15-minute level structure makes it worth the risk for me to play it.
If you're going to switch everything to rebuys, that's really a kick in the head for me. Also, have you thought about what this will do to the new players? They could conceiveably blow through a $100 or $200 bankroll in just a few days, which in my opinion destroys the bottom of your player pyramid.
Terrible, terrible decison.
If every tournament is a rebuy or reentry, there is no reason for an MTT specialist like me who takes bankroll management seriously to stay on the site.
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Originally Posted by joydivisionboy
As an MTT specialist...Just to put my 2 cents in, I'm not that thrilled with the fact that all the tourneys are re-entry now. Since it adjusts the number of payout spots to reflect the total number of entries (including re-entries), it has the effect of flattening out an already flat structure even more. Hypothetically, if say 18 people signed up for a tourney but each one re-entered several times, each one could end up "in the money". I don't know, it's kind of silly when you re-enter a couple times and the minimum cash is barely more than one entry. I agree with the earlier poster about the structure being too flat to begin with (often first only gets like 20% of the pool).
So yeah, not real happy about this change. That being said, most everything else about this site so far has been great...Good software (a couple improvements needed tho), good service, fast payouts (the debit card is amazing), and a growing player pool. Maybe make the re-entry tourneys to only be SOME of the MTT's tho???
These are questions for our tournament director.

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Originally Posted by Ponziani
Anyone else having problems loading up the withdrawal tab?
Can you provide more info please, do you get an error message ? do you have a screenshot so we can take a look?
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Originally Posted by kingpin316
I would like to deposit using a prepaid Visa card but I dont want to buy the wrong card is there a specific card to look for and can you get it at a supermarket 711 CVS Etc.? Thanks in advance.
There are many places you can get a prepaid card, we highly recommend that you verify if the card allows international online transactions prior to the purchase.
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Originally Posted by BeerBottlez
Why do a lot of sngs stay in the "Announced" state so long not allowing anyone to register? Doesn't ACR like money?
Which SNG?
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Originally Posted by hatsoff2u
Hey wtf, I thought the 250K entry ticket was a bonus? I clicked something in my 'rewards details' tab and now 13,500cp is gone from my account. That's like $150 in bonus money. I don't even play mtt's. How do I get my points back?
You have been unregistered from the tournament and your account has been credited with your 13,500 points.
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Originally Posted by Battle Smurf
Ok im a little confused. When you sign up through a rakeback affiliate you dont earn combat points or rank points? You just get the set percent back each week?
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Originally Posted by Battle Smurf
Can u actually use them to buy rank and ****? Support told me I had to choose.
You earn Combat Points, but not Rank Points. If you’re a Rakeback player, your rewards details for the Elites benefit program will not be visible for you in the rewards tab.
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
I'll go a little farther and suggest that we should be able to read about this somewhere on the site. I can't find a VIP section on the site, so I looked under "Rewards" and there was nothing there.
I have no clue what a Tourney Buck is, I don't have any TBs, and I have no idea what I have to do to get one. I figured out how many Combat Points I can earn by checking my cashier page before and after a tournament and doing the math, and it came out that I get a CP for every 18 cents in rake.
I'm also unclear on the rakeback vs. CP deal. After all, if we have the choice of either, why was I automatically switched from rakeback to CP?
If this was all laid out somewhere on the site where we could read it, we would know what was going on, and ACR wouldn't have to answer all these questions.
Information on our Elites benefit program can be found here.
Tournament Bucks are a unique currency which may be used exclusively for tournaments accepting this currency as a Buy-in. You can’t redeem them for cash as they hold no cash value. You can receive a tourney buck in exchange for an additional seat to a tournament in which you are already registered unless otherwise stated by that specific tournament rule.
Please feel to send me your username so I can check on your Rakeback status.
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Originally Posted by mcleod014
ACR Rep,
Can you look into my account and make sure i'm getting rakeback? I've contacted support but they weren't much help. I'm being tracked at RTR but when I go to rewards it shows I'm getting combat points. I was also able to unlock 2 achievement awards for $10 each but I was told by support they shouldn't be available if I have rakeback.

Not sure what the deal is. Thanks

My sn is zeeep014
All taken care of, you should be able to see your Rakeback status in the Rewards tab. If you’re a Rakeback player, you will no longer be able to participate in the Elites program.
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Originally Posted by WEC
I have been playing the 1r Sats to the 250 Seat 250K Satellite. I have won multiple seats. How long does it normally take to be credited with wins after you have won the initial seat?
Normally 48 hrs. Please provide me with your username and I will check into it.
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Originally Posted by Battle Smurf
Bonus clearing has no time limit and goes quick imho. Releases in 1 dollar incriments too which is cool. I played like 2 tables of 25 nl last night for 4 or 5 hours and cleared like 5 bucks already. Deposit as much as u can afford to your first time thats what I did.

Yes the debit card is sick and is used like any other debit card only you cant use it to put money back on the site you can only take it off from atms or banks or whatever or if u want to buy **** at stores it works. Cash outs are like 2.5k per tick I forget how often u can do it but its not got that long of a cool down and get put on your card in like 24 hours. You can have up to 10k on the card at any one time.

Pokertracker works atleast from like 9 different sources. I am about to get it myself today so I cant confirm but im 99% sure. HEM2 doesnt I know that much.

As for traffic in plo all I can say is that right now there are only 2 tables of 10cent/25cent and 1 table of 5/10cent running with no tables less then that showing up.

So I would say its not that great. Games seem way more oriented to 6 max nl holdem with a few sit and goes during reasonable hours. I didnt even see a single sit and go for nl holdem from 5-20 dollar buy ins running from like 1 am to 7 am last night eastern standard time. I sat at a table for a 10 and a 15 regular heads up sng for 2 hours and no one came.

Long story short site is awesome if you want a "safer" american site with probably the best support and cash outs I have ever seen anywhere. It also has some pretty bad players atleast at 25nl 6 max. Traffic is lower though and seems oriented around nl holdem ring games.

They do however offer some nice promotions and incentives to get people to play more tournaments and they reward tourney players pretty nicely the site has grown a bit in the short 2 weeks that I have been tracking it. I think they have commercials running in some states on espn now so I only expect things to get better.
That’s correct, the bonus is easy to clear and there’s no time limit .Also, Debit Cards are highly recommended. You can then use it to make purchases at retail outlets, or withdraw cash at your leisure.
Appreciate the kind feedback and your help.

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Originally Posted by Ponziani
I'm trying to withdraw, but the links on the withdrawal page are all messed up and I can't choose anything, whereas the deposit page is fine, is anyone else having this problem?
This is odd, do you have a screenshot you can send me?
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Originally Posted by LloydBanks
What's the cash out time frame for the quickest option? Thanks
Person to Person transactions are the fastest like WU or MG, they normally take less than a week but our standard timeframe for any cashout is from 7- 14 days.
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Originally Posted by all4u
I registered on ACR and was clicking around, when received an error message saying there is something wrong with my account (did not deposit nor played a single hand) Contacted support and was told I cannot play on ACR due to "suspicious activity". Sounds like a joke.
Can you send us your username please so we can check into it for you.
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04-13-2012 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ratm2525
I was going to deposit on ACR until I looked at the lobby. I play Heads up SNG's.....why is the rake so high? $100+$5 for a super turbo and $100+$7.50 for a regular turbo? That's crazy, should be more like $100+$2 and $100+$5. I would have to believe action would get going a lot quicker in these if the rake was lowered to a reasonable level. I personally will not deposit.
$100+$2 for hypers
$100+$5 for turbos
$100+$7.50 for regular
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04-13-2012 , 09:01 PM
Does ne1 know where i can find MTT'S on ACR like 18m, 27m, 45m and up
? just can't seem to find them?
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04-13-2012 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ratm2525
I was going to deposit on ACR until I looked at the lobby. I play Heads up SNG's.....why is the rake so high? $100+$5 for a super turbo and $100+$7.50 for a regular turbo? That's crazy, should be more like $100+$2 and $100+$5. I would have to believe action would get going a lot quicker in these if the rake was lowered to a reasonable level. I personally will not deposit.
LOL go to any other site they are either higher or right inline!!
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04-13-2012 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ACR Rep
Normally 48 hrs. Please provide me with your username and I will check into it.
Thank You for the offer. The proper amount is now shown in my Cashier as of 2 hours ago
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04-14-2012 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by transcend23
$100+$2 for hypers
$100+$5 for turbos
$100+$7.50 for regular

Oops, Thanks for catching my mistake, scanned over lobby to quick. $100 +$2 is pretty decent for hypers. Alot of times turbos are more around $110+$5(merge has $110+$4.50). $100+$7.50 pretty awful though for reg speeds IMO.
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04-14-2012 , 02:22 AM
Hi Everyone,

I have an important phone call meeting coming up with an ACR representative to discuss improvements for their software. Since this is over the phone where communication is much easier than through a forum or email, and since it has been specifically set up for the purpose of achieving improvements, this is an excellent opportunity for us to see some progress. I will be able to discuss a variety of issues in detail and follow up on them.

I think it is very important for me/us to try and get everything out of this as possible, and I would like everyone's help in doing so.

If you don't mind, please PM to me any concerns that you've noticed needing to be addressed that you would like me to discuss with them. Again, please PM instead of replying in this thread for the sake of staying organized and not unnecessarily flooding this thread. I have already composed a consolidated list of needed fixes from what I've noticed myself and from what others have included in this thread, but would like to be thorough and make sure nothing is overlooked.

Please DO:
-Include any improvement in ACR's software/structure that you would like to see, even if you have already mentioned in here or in other forms.
-Think about features/options lacking that have frustrated you.
-Think about features/options available on other sites that have pleased you.
-Include everything you have, no matter how severe/urgent or small/petty it is.

Please DO NOT:
-Include specific individual/personal issues (i.e. you don't know why you can't log in, didn't receive your rakeback, etc.)
-Include problems with their website, their phones, chat etc. This talk is to improve the software and structure.
-Include complaints/problems without solutions (i.e. "withdrawals are too slow")
-Include changes that are impractical and not worthy of discussing at the moment (i.e. a restructure of their reward system)

Please keep in mind:
-I am primarily a cash player, so issues with regard to MTT/SNG may have been overlooked by me or may need more explaining.
-That I am not an ACR Rep myself but just am a regular that has found an opportunity to help facilitate and expedite change that we all want to see.
-I will respond back to everyone to confirm that I have their input included and properly understand what they mean.

Thank you everyone for your time and help.
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04-14-2012 , 04:18 AM
Hope they will be able to back the 250k GTD looks they are way way short on players with just a day to go.
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04-14-2012 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by joydivisionboy
As an MTT specialist...Just to put my 2 cents in, I'm not that thrilled with the fact that all the tourneys are re-entry now. Since it adjusts the number of payout spots to reflect the total number of entries (including re-entries), it has the effect of flattening out an already flat structure even more. Hypothetically, if say 18 people signed up for a tourney but each one re-entered several times, each one could end up "in the money". I don't know, it's kind of silly when you re-enter a couple times and the minimum cash is barely more than one entry. I agree with the earlier poster about the structure being too flat to begin with (often first only gets like 20% of the pool).

So yeah, not real happy about this change. That being said, most everything else about this site so far has been great...Good software (a couple improvements needed tho), good service, fast payouts (the debit card is amazing), and a growing player pool. Maybe make the re-entry tourneys to only be SOME of the MTT's tho???
Appreciate the feedback. We are evaluating aspects like the payouts structures for the reentry tournaments. This will take some time as this new ground for our network.

Glad to hear you're enjoying the site and hope to see you in our $250K GTD on Sunday.
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04-14-2012 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by georgebushda3rd
Does ne1 know where i can find MTT'S on ACR like 18m, 27m, 45m and up
? just can't seem to find them?
With the size of our current player pool, we're not ready to launch MTT SNGs. It is on our list, and hopefully we'll be able to offer those in the near future.
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04-14-2012 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
Yesterday (late afternoon or early evening, not sure) I checked all of the touraments up to $50, and there was 1 freezeout, at $40. This effectively triples bankroll requirements, because to play an MTT, the cheapest option now is to play a tournament with 1 rebuy and 1 add-on. (I'm assuming that most players would not want to skip the rebuy and addon and be at a huge chip disadvantage.)
I've mentioned some of the differences between rebuys and reentries in this thread. Only 20% of our tournaments our rebuys.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1290

Reentries are virtually identical to late registration and neither increase bankroll requirements nor offer a chip advantage. They do, however, give our players the ability to put in more volume, and player feedback at this point has been positive.
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04-14-2012 , 05:49 PM
Perhaps I am opening myself up to ridicule here, but based on the post above and the one it links to, I am still not 100% sure what the difference between a rebuy and re-entry is...sigh.
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04-14-2012 , 05:52 PM
In a reentry you have to bust out of the tournament and you buyin again(and pay rake again) for another starting stack at a different table. rebuy you have to lose a tiny amount of chips and you buy another starting stack to get a double stack minus a few chips and stay at the same table.
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04-15-2012 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bobboufl11
In a reentry you have to bust out of the tournament and you buyin again(and pay rake again) for another starting stack at a different table. rebuy you have to lose a tiny amount of chips and you buy another starting stack to get a double stack minus a few chips and stay at the same table.
If you go to zero you can buy two rebuys at once for a double stack. Also, there is an addon or even in some rebuys a double addon to allow people to buy significant chips at the break. You can fire away if you have money and build a significant chip stack v those that do not rebuy or addon.

Because of this, there is a significant difference between a re-entry and a rebuy.
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04-15-2012 , 03:42 PM
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04-15-2012 , 06:00 PM
I would like to have the Option to always sit me here. Right now I have to manually switch my seats on every table and this messes up Poker tracker 3 and displays stats in the wrong position. An always sit me in seat x seat would be awesome. Please please please. O yah and I would also like to see a Rush/Zoom/Speed Poker!

Thanks, Nookx
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