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04-15-2019 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tapirboy
Is it really not possible to get a four-color deck in Jackpots anymore? That's gonna drive me nuts for as long as it takes to get enough rake to cash out.
Friend, I'm also interested in this question. But I can not find a solution. Do you have any progress on this issue?
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04-15-2019 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace070118
https://www.americascardroom.eu/banned-accounts/

So FoxRox got banned and $175000 got reimbursed, and they brag about their transparency.
Glad to see ACR did the correct thing here.
But so many questions:
1) Never saw this link before Support-> Security and Integrity -> Banned Accounts. I am not a big lurker on ACR website but Is this link new?
2) How many accounts have been banned in past month? year? Only one account is shown - FoxRox
3) Feels like PR spin from the embarrassing caught on live stream Bot incident. Other accounts have been named in this thread and many stay active for long time.
4) I hope this Link on ACR webpage stays active (and that it is just not a temp PR stunt). Will this link of banned players stay active?
5) nice to see that players are getting a pay jump in tournaments that FoxRox cashed. I been knoocked out of a Tournament by FoxRox. Can I get my Buy-In back?

Below is from ACR's website. It's at link above, but wanted to post it as well for it's comedic value.

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The Winning Poker Network is the first and only online poker room offering a transparent, verifiable reimbursement policy.

Our players trust us, but we strive for excellence. As a player, we encourage you not to accept less. The Winning Poker Network exposes the offending player’s screenname. We do our best to calculate reimbursements correctly; however, we encourage our valued players to check their records and ensure we took care of them. All our cards are face up.

*WPN’s Reimbursement Policy: We reimburse money won from players by accounts proven to be breaking WPN’s fair play policies. We use the following method for reimbursement.

1. Game type
a) Tournaments – Ladder Up: We remove the offending player from the payout spot and move each lower payout spot up one position and pay each player the difference between his old spot and new spot.
b) Cash games – We subtract losses to the offending player from wins taken from the offending player in a given session.

2. We reimburse to a cap of $25,000 per offending player. The reimbursed funds are distributed to affected players beginning with the most recent occurrence to the oldest.

Below is the list of banned players since April 11th, 2019. You can see the affected users and how much was reimbursed to each player.
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04-15-2019 , 10:59 AM
Ok Winning TD, what was the purpose of making it a 10 second timebank and 10 seconds to act? Is there any reasoning behind that?

Also, when you look in the main lobby it said 10 minute blinds 5k chips 2 hours late reg on the side window, one would not expect it to be turbo since it didn't say turbo in the title, what other tournaments do you have normal blind levels but a turbo timebank, is it specifically designed for big buy in sattelites where players would actually need some time? It seems completely backwards.

The speeds of all the on demand sats are normal, why would the final step 6 have a shorter timebank??
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04-15-2019 , 12:38 PM
ChristinePoker $19.40
CreateMyOwnEnergy $15.08

These guys don't have bot problems.
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04-15-2019 , 01:13 PM
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04-15-2019 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
ChristinePoker $19.40
CreateMyOwnEnergy $15.08

These guys don't have bot problems.
Christine Poker.
Life time $254,514

Played 5,400 games in 3 years 4 months (4-1/2 games a day)

Then Played 2,850 games in Seven Weeks
(81 Tournaments a day average. Large losing streaks but smaller buy-ins)

Then Played 1,600 games in 10 months (5.3 a day)

Five year history with same screen name

That hog-wild 7 week stretch really skewed the Average Buy-In and ITM percentages. But otherwise probably one of the best High Buy-In Villains playing.
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04-15-2019 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fast11375
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I had to delete something of my own. Was venting.
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04-15-2019 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
ChristinePoker $19.40
CreateMyOwnEnergy $15.08

These guys don't have bot problems.
ChristinePoker is probably one of the best regs on the site and a very good player. CreateMyOwnEnergy... if they are a bot then they are a very terrible one lol.
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04-15-2019 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 26sk8er
I received an approx $65 refund from foxrox, was he playing just tournaments?

Has anyone here received refunds from any of the other players in that list? It seems odds that 175k from foxrox was reimbursed yet the next player was 1.8k????
Maybe I'm missing something, but I see exactly one bot that they've posted on that page, and then a long list of people that the $175 K was distributed to, hence the column headings of "Affected Users" and "Reimbursement". If you received money, I'd think your own screen name would be in that list.

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Originally Posted by DonWon
ChristinePoker $19.40
CreateMyOwnEnergy $15.08

These guys don't have bot problems.
I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.
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04-15-2019 , 03:50 PM
That's what I see as well Bobo - One bot FoxRox is listed as being banned and the list is accounts that received a refund (jumps in Pay Out position).

I am so curious if this a one time PR stunt due to the embarrassing caught-streaming fiasco.
Or in the future that we are going to see additional banned accounts at that website link.
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04-15-2019 , 03:55 PM
Registration near the bubble is so rare its ridiculous to even bring it up, especially in the 3-5 late reg tournament where the last level gives you 10 bigs and when registration is over there are 100+ players to go to the money on the mid stakes
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04-15-2019 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dropnloads
TD_Winning - Please Please Please stop it with the tournaments with late registration 3-4-5 hours until a few players before the money.
People buying in a few minutes before the money is ridiculous.

Don't tell me that's what people like because u offer nothing else.

Good for push Bots of course...but horrible for people trying to play a skill game.

Should we all just join in the last three minutes of a three hour rebuy period with 10 BB's and push away.
Some of us actually like to play the game.

Stop catering to the Bubble-Join crowd already.
Sad!
How you be possibly worried about people who come in severely short stacked if youve obviously played enough hours to accumulate a stack to where you calling off shouldn't be hurting you too much?

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04-15-2019 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 26sk8er
I received an approx $65 refund from foxrox, was he playing just tournaments?

Has anyone here received refunds from any of the other players in that list? It seems odds that 175k from foxrox was reimbursed yet the next player was 1.8k????

On a side note, i sattelited from the the step 2 6 buck to the 600, and since the step 6 on demands didn't run i emailed them and they made a mtt yesterday on a sunday with 3 seats guaranteed.

It had 10 minute blinds and 5k starting stack yet was labelled as a turbo and had 10 seconds to act preflop and 10 seconds timebank, that seemed ridiculous for a $630 buy in sattelite. i don't think ive ever seen a mtt with 10 minute blinds and 5k chips and 2 hours late reg be labelled a turbo, im pretty sure whoever created the mtt just ****ed up but they won't admit it.

Ofcourse acr won't budge on anything and they are always correct. It seemed ridiculous for that buy in mtt though. Also they never even acknowledged me for my idea to run a scheduled mtt for the step 6 since the on demand step 6's never run.

edit: i have also playeed a fair bit with nightstalker recently, im guessing he is another suspected bot?
You needed acknowledgement why?
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04-15-2019 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 26sk8er
I received an approx $65 refund from foxrox, was he playing just tournaments?
Tournament bots do not play cash games and vice versa. Also the PLO cash bots that I am intimate with do not play CAP/No Rathole tables either.
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04-15-2019 , 06:14 PM
Bots catching hefty refunds.. even from the same ring

Well done as usual
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04-15-2019 , 07:17 PM
I don't know if this is anything but has anybody noticed the absence of suspected bots at 25nl and 50nl games??? Nothing today. Definitely going to keep my eye on this.
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04-15-2019 , 07:56 PM
I received another $11 in to my account unexpectedly. It had the same notation in the Financial history as the FoxRox payment did (special refund) but did not receive an email. Anyone else get a second wave of FoxRox payments, or could it be from an unidentified (at this time) bot? I will post if I get an email with another user name.
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04-15-2019 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JustMarty
I received another $11 in to my account unexpectedly. It had the same notation in the Financial history as the FoxRox payment did (special refund) but did not receive an email. Anyone else get a second wave of FoxRox payments, or could it be from an unidentified (at this time) bot? I will post if I get an email with another user name.
GLUCKAUF was the perp.
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04-15-2019 , 08:23 PM
And he collected $209 from FoxRox. It looks like just because a user received a payment does not mean they are innocent
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04-15-2019 , 08:29 PM
I had 7600 hands between FoxRox and Gluckauf combined and I only received like $11 total. Guess I ran bad and didn't cash in any of the tournaments they had big scores in lol
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04-15-2019 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Knittle
Big Tip of the Hat to WPN.
That is about $200k that has been reimbursed to players between the two banned players.

For sure the confiscated money does not come close to the refunded money - so that is all out of pocket money from WPN's bottom Line. (what greater motivator to stop bots in their tracks)

I have been a big critic of WPN, but I must say good job!

If you turn your image around and be known as the anti-bot site I guarantee your traffic will skyrocket!

Keep it up, and I am looking forward to seeing that list of banned Bots grow! (this forum will check frequently)
And I am looking forward to the crazy site traffic in the upcoming years as the site goes through a baby boom of new trusting players!

Thank You WPN! I never thought I would see the day!!!
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04-15-2019 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dropnloads
Big Tip of the Hat to WPN.
That is about $200k that has been reimbursed to players between the two banned players.

For sure the confiscated money does not come close to the refunded money - so that is all out of pocket money from WPN's bottom Line. (what greater motivator to stop bots in their tracks)

I have been a big critic of WPN, but I must say good job!

If you turn your image around and be known as the anti-bot site I guarantee your traffic will skyrocket!

Keep it up, and I am looking forward to seeing that list of banned Bots grow! (this forum will check frequently)
And I am looking forward to the crazy site traffic in the upcoming years as the site goes through a baby boom of new trusting players!

Thank You WPN! I never thought I would see the day!!!

Lol bro, check the list of the highest paid players reimbursed.... They are all Glauckoffs other screen names.
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04-16-2019 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by silkhandlez
Lol bro, check the list of the highest paid players reimbursed.... They are all Glauckoffs other screen names.
A lot of those guys, including Glukauf, have not been seen since foxrox got popped. They very well could have suspended them pending an investigation and the ax might be ready to drop on every account involved.
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04-16-2019 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JustMarty
A lot of those guys, including Glukauf, have not been seen since foxrox got popped. They very well could have suspended them pending an investigation and the ax might be ready to drop on every account involved.
right... but, the money they got from foxrox and glackoff, in each individual case.. where does that money go? Redistributed to the non bot players? What I am saying is, there are bots getting paid for playing with bots. In each individual transaction.. Will the money they get from each individual transaction go back to the players?
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