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Originally Posted by seat
I hate this ****ing timer you guys have implemented in the cash games. It makes no ****ing sense. The old system worked just fine. Now this new timer is nothing but negative. There is no upside to this new timer. A couple times now I've gone to take a break and go to the bathroom and make a sandwich and when i get back ive been timed out. I try to rejoin the table and it says I have to wait 30 min. So you're punishing people for taking a break. Half the time the table will die and ill try to rejoin the table to get it going again and I have to wait 30 minutes to start the table back up. So not only are you losing rake from the table dieing, you're now losing rake because I can't start the table back up for 30 min.
So now if you want to take a break you have to leave the table or risk getting timed out. So you lose your seat every time you have to take a break. Then rejoin the waiting list if the table hasn't died. The other day I was only one at the table and someone still pushed the timer on me. It makes no sense. Get rid of this damn timer. There is no benefit to it. only negatives.
counterpoint: the timer is the best thing ever
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Originally Posted by dropnloads
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So I am playing Micro SNG's. (been playing online since the Glory Days. Very Proftably years ago...these days, well I only hang in the Micro's to pass the time. I have no thoughts of playing for high stakes these days because of all the shenanigans. I suspect many readers here similar background)
So I am up against these two BOTS. 'senseikum' & 'myravey'.
Both from Russia (which doesn't automatically make someone a BOT)
Both never play against each other.
STATS nearly identical in every way (all you WPN apologists who are about to say 280 hands is not History. Relax. They played identical ranges/situations. We got three & four handed over a few games and it made stats diverge a bit).
Normally I don't mind BOTS. But normally they are not on same Table & not playing into each other as well.
So my questions are:
1) Do I report?
Would WPN even care if I did. I think WPN wants the Rake from those two BOTS more then they want me to increase play or stakes.
Would it matter. These BOTS create new accounts all the time. They will just create a new account tomorrow and fire up the BOT.
2) Do I stop playing?
I love Playing Poker and I like Playing online.
Even swimming in the micro's though it's hard to stretch a hundred bucks long enough to get some entertainment value. (FYI I made money for years in golden age and the years right after Black Friday).
Also, Kinda juts sits really wrong with me also that I am losing real money to Cheats.
In 3 games I got three handed in two and four handed in another. Two third places and a Fourth Place. Of course the Two BOTS came in 1st & 2nd in all three games.
I tell myself it is good practice, but is it really?
What do you guys think? Is it still worth playing here?
I kinda like killing time and love poker, but odds so stacked against a regular player.
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Originally Posted by dropnloads
Thanks everyone for the spirited discussion and feedback.
My additional two cents.
WPN could easily curb bots by making a patch that alters the appearance of the Cards, Chips, table layout. I believe most Bots still using the screen scrape technology. I would be so curious to see the immediate drop off in Traffic if WPN issued a global graphics change patch.
Since stopping Bots could easily be done, the fact that sites like WPN do not makes me think that other Shady stuff is not out of the realm of possibilities. I am not in the riggie camp by far, but if a blind eye is turned on bots what other shenanigans are possibilities.
I am going to continue to play just for entertainment value. Dropping a hundred bucks every few weeks or so. Waiting for day when the online community (ecosystem as some put it) gets better.
Regarding who is getting cheated. Well on micro level - I was cheated those games I played. Two third place finishes and a fourth against Two Bots who never played a hand against each other.
On a Macro level the community is cheated. I am not loading up and playing high stakes cash or buying into the high dollar guarantees, and I have not for years. I am sure many reading this are the same as me in this regard.
Now I'm glad I reported an SNG I played two summers ago. Aside from NLHE Jackpots, which I've played a bunch, I've played only maybe a dozen or so NLHE sngs. But one night I had a hankering so played a 6max and, lol, there was the most obvious bubble softplay. In a 6max, which is, uh, the same number of players as a JP.
Part of the message I sent:
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I was almost too lazy to even bother with this because it's the smallest SNG but I think it would suck for the regular players who play these to let stuff like this happen.
So fwiw, people do get it.
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Originally Posted by MJK12
Still no regs or grinders that can come in here and tell me they consistently make money huh? Not one single person can post a graph on the bbiggest online poker site in the world of being a winning player on ACR? Not one?
Nobody talks about massive guarantee tourneys nothing... nothing fishy at all about that.
Any one see eric crain's tweet last night on ACR? Said basically get your money off acr he knows opeople that know are fixing the cash games. Dont think someone with his platform would use it to just spew BS. The storm is brewwwwwing...
My first thought was, lol wat is this dude talking about, let me post my yearly graph,
but then I was like, hm, it's kinda tapering off, what's that all about. Then I checked my AIEV,
...,
and thought, damn, maybe MJK12 is right.
I mean, you can clearly see the exact point the DoomSwitch was activated. I personally believe Winning_TD personally flicked it himself whilst cackling maniacally.
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Winning_TD,
I thought about this thread because I sent you a PM earlier (really) about an important matter but an even impotanter matter has arisen. Please deactivate my DoomSwitch at your earliest convenience.
Last edited by Mike Haven; 11-30-2018 at 08:19 PM.
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