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11-08-2018 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
I'm conflicted about this. I love the big prize pools, and I'll play as long as it takes to go after the big money. That's what I would like to do.

My issue with tournaments that I would normally love to play is that playing for eight hours is too much exposure, because at any time they could be a crash or a lag. I've read way too many posts by players who had a big stack, were close to the money, then everything froze. I won't be that guy.
My tables randomly freeze, it seems when i have a playable hand. I lost AA deep in a tourney last night. I had no TB and it lagged out. Only way to fix it, is to open tourney lobby, close table and 'TAKE MY SEAT' again. Problem is you can't always tell because people TB run when it lags out. Same with the tourney updates not working.

To give them a little credit, There hadn't been any major downtime. The software is just very laggy.

I'm not by any means saying get rid of 3-5hr LR with big GTD's. I'm simple saying it shouldn't be the majority. The only thing i would worry about with overlay is network stability, but they seem sure it won't effect it. If they can overlay and still stay afloat, then i don't care.

Of course just my opinion, but i think people are tired of playing such long games with little options to play a decent 3 hour tourney. I can play all day sometimes but I need breaks in between for RL. Assuming FLHE runs, it's like a all day event for small cash. Just lower the GTD on some and make them shorter.

There are also some smaller tourneys that crush the GTD with long blinds, they could be sped up by 30 - 1 hour for sure. I know i'd play the $2 PLO8 rebuy more if it wasn't so long for a $100-$150 up top.

If i can play a little smaller pool, but able to be flexible i'm happy. I can just grind long term. My understanding is rec's don't like 10 hour tourneys anyways. That's why you see turbo's hit the GTD's for the most part. Like the 2k turbo was $2,660 last night if i remember right.
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11-08-2018 , 01:48 PM
From alot of experience. I have tried with freezeouts, i have tried with 2 hour late reg.

Its just not worth having those tournaments at certain times of day because as much as some people dont like it and its definitely the minority, the proof is in the numbers you get in the 5 hr lr.. Dont get me wrong, if i could be like stars and have monster prize pools with 2 hour late reg tournaments then it would be 2 hours. The bigger the prizepool, the more players you get. So i guess the majority speak when it comes to what they prefer.

I will say as i have said many times before. If i had a freezeout that has 500 players left after 5 hours and have the 5 hr lr tournaments that has 500 at the end of late reg. It will finish at the same time roughly. Its just a mindset of late reg being so long.

@christinepoker - the saturday venom sat got to 35 seats last weekend, its a better oppurtunity if a reg takes that day off for the recreational to make it through which obviously makes the venom better value. I will however put a Wednesday sat back in the schedule but i had 5 seaters everyday and much to my surprise it didnt even have enough players to run. We even had many super sats to those which didnt run so its just a (more) messy lobby than needed to be.

I wasnt going to say anything but yes because i dont want to jinx anything but there hasnt been major downtime for months now but the sentiment is already in the heads of the player. I havent heard any reports of lagging software for a while so i would be more interested in having you PM details and we can send the log files over to dev to investigate. Im sure that most have a better computer than me but but i have recently got poker copilot and it lags any poker i play so bad, so that could be a possible issue.
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11-08-2018 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
The saturday venom sat got to 35 seats last weekend, its a better oppurtunity if a reg takes that day off for the recreational to make it through which obviously makes the venom better value. I will however put a Wednesday sat back in the schedule.
If you are talking about a Wednesday Venom $630.01 Satellite, that would be awesome.
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11-08-2018 , 03:21 PM
No $600's during the week no. Just Saturday for that megasat.
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11-08-2018 , 04:25 PM
Thats great news, I'm sure a exclusive satty running on wednesdays will def. work. Be sure to run presats to that satty before the sat starts aswell. A 320$ satty is perfect with 33$/55$/109$ presats. Even small 6$ rebuy presats perhaps.

And one more thing about your daily HR tournaments. Why dont you run satties for those earlier on the day? Too often a HR event gets cancelled. A few more added sats that finish before the HR event start should solve that problem. Get people to automatically reg when they win the 1st sat.

Because of the long hours of late reg people just like to start later, that's just a fact. Atleast by running 1 or 2 more sats earlier on the day you'll get every HR event to start.

Appreciate your time and efforts.

Christinepoker
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11-08-2018 , 05:49 PM
I hate this ****ing timer you guys have implemented in the cash games. It makes no ****ing sense. The old system worked just fine. Now this new timer is nothing but negative. There is no upside to this new timer. A couple times now I've gone to take a break and go to the bathroom and make a sandwich and when i get back ive been timed out. I try to rejoin the table and it says I have to wait 30 min. So you're punishing people for taking a break. Half the time the table will die and ill try to rejoin the table to get it going again and I have to wait 30 minutes to start the table back up. So not only are you losing rake from the table dieing, you're now losing rake because I can't start the table back up for 30 min.
So now if you want to take a break you have to leave the table or risk getting timed out. So you lose your seat every time you have to take a break. Then rejoin the waiting list if the table hasn't died. The other day I was only one at the table and someone still pushed the timer on me. It makes no sense. Get rid of this damn timer. There is no benefit to it. only negatives.
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11-08-2018 , 06:52 PM
+1 for the new seat removal mechanics being absurd. It was great kicking people after 2 orbits, now You have to wait 500 seconds if the person doesn't exit the table. Yesterday I was at tables where all of a sudden 3 out of the 6 sat out and counted down the timer and tables died quick because of it. Auto kicking after 2 orbits is just so much quicker and better for the games.
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11-08-2018 , 08:07 PM
i got a ticket to an ACR 25k casino tourney tomorrow. was wondering if i should download the software and play...no info on the event and i expect it to be a waste of time.
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11-08-2018 , 09:42 PM
Can you switch the SitnCrush to daily like the Beast please? It's that leaderboard that badly needs motivating, not cash!
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11-08-2018 , 11:28 PM
Can any of the ACR MTT regs shine some light on all the Latvian/German/other Eastern Euro country accounts?

They all have really similar HUD stats and practically the same ABI when I search them on Sharkscope. Typically all using the PokerKing skin as well.

I've done a little digging/database analysis myself but don't have concrete evidence to prove anything. I feel like there is enough variation between specific HUD stats that they are probably different players. What I find the most alarming though is that there ABI is practically identical.
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11-09-2018 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Windpspro
My tables randomly freeze, it seems when i have a playable hand. I lost AA deep in a tourney last night. I had no TB and it lagged out. Only way to fix it, is to open tourney lobby, close table and 'TAKE MY SEAT' again. Problem is you can't always tell because people TB run when it lags out. Same with the tourney updates not working.

To give them a little credit, There hadn't been any major downtime. The software is just very laggy.

I'm not by any means saying get rid of 3-5hr LR with big GTD's. I'm simple saying it shouldn't be the majority. The only thing i would worry about with overlay is network stability, but they seem sure it won't effect it. If they can overlay and still stay afloat, then i don't care.

Of course just my opinion, but i think people are tired of playing such long games with little options to play a decent 3 hour tourney. I can play all day sometimes but I need breaks in between for RL. Assuming FLHE runs, it's like a all day event for small cash. Just lower the GTD on some and make them shorter.

There are also some smaller tourneys that crush the GTD with long blinds, they could be sped up by 30 - 1 hour for sure. I know i'd play the $2 PLO8 rebuy more if it wasn't so long for a $100-$150 up top.

If i can play a little smaller pool, but able to be flexible i'm happy. I can just grind long term. My understanding is rec's don't like 10 hour tourneys anyways. That's why you see turbo's hit the GTD's for the most part. Like the 2k turbo was $2,660 last night if i remember right.
I understand that the majority of players can't, or don't want to, play very long tournaments. I am a full-time poker player, so I can play whenever I want for as long as I want.

Clearly, if someone works full-time (not playing poker) and has kids and other responsibilities, they often can't play tournaments that can run five hours or longer.

I was hooked when, in 1985, I played a $3.30 MTT, finished 7th of 4200 and cashed for $384 (116 buy-ins.) Since then I have always looked for the deepest and longest tournaments, with the biggest prize pools that I could find and that I was bankrolled for, both live and online.

I am glad to hear that the lagging isn't as bad as it used to be. I will check this thread from time to time to see what the situation is and maybe I'll come back and give it another shot.
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11-09-2018 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Harambee
Can any of the ACR MTT regs shine some light on all the Latvian/German/other Eastern Euro country accounts?

They all have really similar HUD stats and practically the same ABI when I search them on Sharkscope. Typically all using the PokerKing skin as well.

I've done a little digging/database analysis myself but don't have concrete evidence to prove anything. I feel like there is enough variation between specific HUD stats that they are probably different players. What I find the most alarming though is that there ABI is practically identical.

Some time ago I saw some pretty convincing HUD stats implying multiple accounts were bots using the same program in the Joey Ingram NVG ACR/WPN thread. Like every stat was basically the same. You might have a look around in that thread.

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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Here's an example from the cash games on WPN. The stats are basically clones.


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...eware-1703281/
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11-09-2018 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Some time ago I saw some pretty convincing HUD stats implying multiple accounts were bots using the same program in the Joey Ingram NVG ACR/WPN thread. Like every stat was basically the same. You might have a look around in that thread.




https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...eware-1703281/
i posted a bunch more throughout this thread awhile ago too

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-bots-1696587/

last time i had a look at the games i saw alot of the accounts there
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11-09-2018 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Yeah 5 hour late reg is ridiculous for online. Agree 3 is too much as well. 2 hours tops would be good imo.
I feel Old. I remember early 2000's.
Many tournaments you had to be signed up for before they started, or there was only a reasonable late entry period.

I agree with all posters - that the 3-5 hour late registrations are ridiculous.
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11-09-2018 , 09:56 AM
PSKO’s and 2 hour late reg.
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11-09-2018 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OOO POCKET ROCKETS
PSKO’s and 2 hour late reg.
+100000000000000000000000000

These two things are literally the only two things I want to see at this point. I petitioned for Mucked Cards at Showdown for years and I realize that will never come on this site.
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11-09-2018 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ImIIawesome
+100000000000000000000000000

These two things are literally the only two things I want to see at this point. I petitioned for Mucked Cards at Showdown for years and I realize that will never come on this site.
Mucked cards when we have the new software should i will repeat should and this is what im told show mucked cards.

I have 2 hour late reg tournaments, you just dont notice them because they dont get very many players. Again after 3 hours of play and there are 300 players in a 2 hr lr left at that point, it will finish the same time as a 3 hr lr that closes reg with 300 players.

PKO's - again with V2 this is something that will come after we launch and i will request for sure.
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11-09-2018 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Mucked cards when we have the new software should i will repeat should and this is what im told show mucked cards.

I have 2 hour late reg tournaments, you just dont notice them because they dont get very many players. Again after 3 hours of play and there are 300 players in a 2 hr lr left at that point, it will finish the same time as a 3 hr lr that closes reg with 300 players.

PKO's - again with V2 this is something that will come after we launch and i will request for sure.
I'm sure this has been asked a billion times, so I do apologize when I ask this, but is there a GENERAL ETA (q1 2019)?? on the new software?

I will do my best to look for these 2 hour reg tournaments and do my best to start entering in them to up participation.
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11-09-2018 , 08:58 PM
Anyone know who Parcker is? He is playing an insane amount of cash tables.
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11-10-2018 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ImIIawesome
I'm sure this has been asked a billion times, so I do apologize when I ask this, but is there a GENERAL ETA (q1 2019)?? on the new software?


Basically they told us many years ago that we would be getting mucked cards at showdown but yet here we are without them and we all bitched and some (me) continue to ***** about it.

So they don't want to say when the new software will be released because if they are late they feel that we will get upset again.
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11-10-2018 , 01:41 AM
Weren't they talking about new software like 2+ years ago? Seemed like they were talking about it when I first started on this site.
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11-10-2018 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
Basically they told us many years ago that we would be getting mucked cards at showdown but yet here we are without them and we all bitched and some (me) continue to ***** about it.

So they don't want to say when the new software will be released because if they are late they feel that we will get upset again.
+1 it will never happen
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11-10-2018 , 12:25 PM
I'm pretty annoyed that these 5 seat Sat's don't run. I just can't play some of the good $44-215 games, so sats are my option. These things just don't run very much. About 50% of them have good value, i see the 1 seat hypers run more and they aren't very good value.

Like I said before, they need to make ratio better, offer more seats and maybe make mega sat's for stuff. However, I dunno if that's going to make them run more or not.

Maybe they are just losing players due to all the sketchy stuff going on and we just have to accept the fact that smaller things won't run Which sucks cause I hate being forced to play NLHE 5 HR LR.
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11-11-2018 , 02:43 PM
@WinningTD

I've been meaning to bring this up, as I haven't seen anyone else mention it and it bugs me everytime the situation comes up. Anyway, the problem is whenever the person sitting directly in front of you is involved in a pot with you, you cannot see the total of the pot when they have bet. It is super annoying when you don't know the exact total of the pot, before* the bet.

https://gyazo.com/aa6cc33a32e262038f0e03880bf60d81
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11-11-2018 , 03:45 PM
@Winning_TD

Still think your saturday satty is a success?(not rubbing it in your face, I'm just dissapointed) You can't even get the Venom to start today.
Dont get me wrong, I am a big fan of your pokersite and really want you to succeed in what you're trying to accomplish. But please man just give up on your saturday step sat system.

That 215$ 10 seat satty on saturday has never even ran, it needs 15 players to start. It doesnt even come close to starting(6-9 players short on avg). People like to go out on saturdays, do other things then poker. You dont have enough traffic. It's no shame, as all sites are dealing with that. The step system isnt a bad thing, but you've made it the only way to get in during the week.

Here's a suggestion: Move your step 5 600$ satty to the sunday. Start it around 11am-11:30am. Move up the Venom to around 3PM. Run enough satties that finish before 3PM, especially the 600$ step sat. Keep that 215$ satty you have on the saturday but change the start time from 8pm to like 3pm(max 3hour late reg). Make it a bit more turbo meaning that the tourney finishes within 4-5hours. People still can go out for dinners/party after that. During the week run your Venom satties during prime time hours: 7-8pm. Run decent presats from 1pm-5pm to the daily main sats. I know you ran satties daily before and they werent a success but that's because you dont run proper presats that finishes before the main sats start.

I hope you'll take things atleast under consideration.

Best of luck,

Christinepoker

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