Just the minimum, but now it is a daily. I think you need around 1000 to hit the min for the day.

Not that there isn't collusion going on, but someone folding to a 1.1bb jam isn't by itself anything that says anyone is colluding. If you play a lot of tables this can accidentally happen more than you might think.

Please enlighten the group on why someone having people watching their table in a large MTT is shady? If I'm done playing and online I always pull up tables and watch people. I root for people I'm friends with, friendly with on the table, or sometimes random people, as do many others. The post you replied could potentially be an issue, yours just shows you clearly don't hang out in the online MTT world much as that is as common as it gets, and actually happens less now than say 10 years ago on Stars.

Yes it's the same as a deposit.

Change the rules to the Triton Poker version Dwan and Ivey are playing and more people will play, the current is dumb.

Didnt think of this. I wonder what sort of implications this would have on the original hand or anything else.

Yea, I've done this plenty and then immediately realized it was a bonehead thing.

This was deep ish into the tournament.
I believe this is around 30 away from the money , so to answer a previous post, it is NOT in the interest of big stacks to keep shorties in.

As for this specific player, according to tournament history,he was not playing anything else at the same time on ACR.
Therefore it is unlikely that he was too busy with other tables. There is the chance he had other sites but this hand was late on sunday when everyone usually has less tables loaded.
I can also make the argument that given it s a big buyin and close to money, he would be paying MORE attention to this table.

The timing of the hand was also suspicious. I actually took a bit of time to fold as i had a close spot my self and then i watched the big blind tank fold himself.

Plug this spot yourself, even if the jammer shows AA, the bigblind can still profitably call ANY 2 cards given the pot odds he is getting.
So again, i want more information from Winning TD about this other than " this was interesting".

I'm not commenting on it being collusion or not collusion, as your post contains little to nothing supporting either stance. I'm simply pointing out that making a bunch of assumptions about a Russian account folding to another Russian account 1 time for 1.1bbs doesn't=what you seem to think it does.

I don't need to plug anything, you're obviously supposed to call with 2 napkins, but I have personally mistakenly done this many times over the years and I've played multiple thousands of MTTs, it happens.

You can't just assume it's a big tournament for him (it's not really all that big tbh) and you can't just assume someone with access to most sites in the world is playing only one site and one mtt. Also, **** happens as well as some people are just fish.

FWIW, the last live mtt I played I saw a 80 year old local fold to about the same size from a 20 year old Spanish kid who didn't speak a lick of English.... I guess my point is don't dumb down your suspicion with assumptions, no one will listen to you. Post the facts and let it get handled or not handled. If they were colluding they are pretty dumb to do it in such an obvious way.

As far as getting more than what you got in regards to information, don't hold your breath. Every poker site in the world does investigations without giving out specifics.

I was talking more along the lines of observers saying “call” or “he’s bluffing” and stuff of that nature. And I play quite a bit but like I said, I generally have the chat turned off, and even if I have player chat on, I never have observer chat on. So I guess if that means I don’t “hang out in the online MTT world” I suppose you’re right lol.

What you describe happens every Sunday in any of the big tournaments, it's typically the same random fish and a few of the same regulars trolling said random fish. If players had observers telling them to call I'm sure they could figure out a better way than in public in the chat box, it is 2018 and all.

this please!!!

Not sure I've ever folded 1.1bb's but I've accidentally made folds close to that multi-tabling, Or not seeing someone sit out and fold the blinds. It does seem odd, but you need more info than that to say collusion.

I've seen many players make a fold with under 2 bbs, I just don't think they understand.

I completely agree on this. Sometimes after I finish an MTT I will open another one and watch whoever is the tournament big stack. I think I could be better at playing as one of the big stacks. I like to see if I can learn something from how other players handle that situation.

Its an accusation because you dont know the facts.
I am sorry you dont trust me or WPN, i ask a question, i get an answer and relayed it on here. Not sure if that makes me a liar or just to eager to share info with the community when it wasnt set in stone.

The reason mucked cards were originally like this is to protect the recreational player so there was nothing as you would say 'shady' about it.

I dont act like the victim, i just have stopped being active here and giving information like this because no good can come of it. What ever i say you guys find a way to twist it or turn it into a negative. I will keep checking the forum because there are many posts that need help.

Remember i always check PM's guys and will always be willing to help if i can.

Winning_TD, I'm pretty new to the network so if this has already been addressed or you are don't have any impact on this apologies, but I can't for the life on me figure out how the tournament structures have ended up the way they have and I think it's a huge missed opportunity. I understand a lot of the players play exclusively on US sites so having long registrations periods with unlimited re-entries makes sense but if that's the philosophy I really think you would benefit from looking at other sites with similar strategies like Party Poker.

The way the structures are now are just boring and does not incentive gambling, nor do they lead to people re-entering as much, they just mean people sit around doing not much for several hours. 300bbs deep full ring tournaments without antes are really no fun to anyone and are really hard for people to bust out of as well. There are ways to make the tournaments reasonably deep and long with re-entries and still encourage people to vpip. I often end up skipping tournaments on WPN for that reason and no other sites offer as extremely slow structures almost across the board. Four hours of latereg for a $11 tournament with 120 people is imo just way too long. I understand that this is to ensure bigger fields but I really do wonder if these tournaments wouldn't perform better if the were slightly sped up (and had antes from the beginning).

@mement_mori - I made many new structures with antes from the start and implemented them in X tournaments ... We will be working on making all tournaments at some point with these new structures but its a very big job but it is coming. Again i wont give a time because if its late then i get called a liar but im hoping that all tournaments will have these structures for the new year

Some people like them, I however hate the 5 hour LR, it has burned me out a lot of times in OSS events. I'm OK with it as a variety, but many of the good ones are 3-5 hour LR. I've gotten to the point if i see 5 hr LR i just don't bother. Sure it's good value, I just can't play a 10-12 hour tourney anymore. Good news is, most of the alt games run faster

If they want more people to play they should make faster 10 min blind tourneys. Even the hyper's have super long/slow blinds, Sure they go up every 3 min, but very slowly until late game hours later.

To me antes aren't the issue, faster blind jumps should be the key. Playing normal tourneys where it goes up 200-400 when blinds are over 2k is crazy. Blind jumps just need to be more relevant in later stages IMO.

I think the levels for the 1k Turbo KO are pretty good, It seems fast pace but long enough not to be a crap shoot.

@Winning_TD

Dont you guys underestimate how many players take a day off on Saturdays?
Earlier this year you've tried to run a 200k 265$ tourney unsuccessfully with big overlays at times.

Now you've made saturdays the prime sattelite day for the Venom. There aren't any satelittes anymore during the week. Only pre-sats to the bigger sats in the weekends. I get that you want more recreationals in your main event but you'd still need your regulars in there aswell to cover the GTD. The buy in is too big for the avg reg to buyin weekly without hitting a sat on saturdays/sundays.

This new satty system wont last and you know it too. The only question is how long are you going to keep up. I'm expecting 125-150k overlay this next sunday since there arent any series running at the moment anymore.

You dont have enough traffic on saturdays. Other then sundays you do have a ton of traffic on tuesdays/wednesdays. Why not run direct sats with presats to the direct sats on those days? Dont get me wrong I really hope you guys succeed but I just dont see it happening with this current satty system. That big 600 Venom satty would be so much bigger if you'd run it on sundays.

And 1 more thing. What is the reason behind the lack of timebank in the step satties? Theres a ton of
glitches in there aswell, going from a visible 6seconds to sitout the next second. Everything is just so frustrating and I can only imagine that I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Christinepoker

Do people seriously complain about overlay? Overlay is a good thing!

WPN, why don't you guys just copy stars structures? If you do that, im sure lot of players would play on your site.


Even tournaments that are not 5 hour late reg are 3 hour late reg. That is way too long.

Yeah 5 hour late reg is ridiculous for online. Agree 3 is too much as well. 2 hours tops would be good imo.

I'm conflicted about this. I love the big prize pools, and I'll play as long as it takes to go after the big money. That's what I would like to do.

My issue with tournaments that I would normally love to play is that playing for eight hours is too much exposure, because at any time they could be a crash or a lag. I've read way too many posts by players who had a big stack, were close to the money, then everything froze. I won't be that guy.

This!

I will never understand why any player would complain about overlay.

SMH

I think the $630 Venom Satellite Saturday 6:30pm starts too late for people trying to have some weekend night life with family and friends.

Is True Poker still good to use?