A shame? Why didn't ACR respond in time? It's not a shame, it is your own fault! The tourney loophole is still not fixed btw. You are such a shill, unbelievable.

Could you explain what you mean? Forum member 'a dewd' has said in a few different threads that it has been.

How could an employee possibly be a shill?

The MTT loophole was eliminated, 100%. The new seating script removed the ability to mass enter last minute and get a new table and stall/disconnect into the money. The accounts guilty of it we're also frozen/banned/etc... haven't played since the change in seating.

By lying out of personal financial interest perhaps?

Thank you 2+2 for putting your foot down. Most offshore, unregulated poker is and has been shady forever...I first played on paradise in late 2004...but I've never seen things happen like they do on acr.

I can't believe there hasn't been a fully regulated, fully legal, nation wide site available yet. The amount of revenue it could make would be astronomical and could bring about poker boom 2.0.

A shill is an outsider touring the company. Insiders/employees are pretty much 'expected' to do do it.

Taxes, that is all it's about. When. The scumbag politicians can figure out a way to get their won rake from the game, it will get an all clear. The other issue is the non-compete agreements with native tribes.

If the feds had any real interest in policing the online poker, seizures and blocking if websites would occur like black Friday.

Idk. I think most companies wouldn't ask their employees to outright lie, particularly in a forum where their statements could easily be rebutted as just happened here. Seems -ev in both the short and long run.


But I guess Thrash370 expending whatever goodwill he's accumulated as player making dishonest statements on behalf of WPN is more in line with your definition.


shill
SHil/Submit
NORTH AMERICANinformal
noun
noun: shill; plural noun: shills
1.
an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.
a person who pretends to give an impartial endorsement of something in which they themselves have an interest.
"a megamillionaire who makes more money as a shill for corporate products than he does for playing basketball"

I don't see it as an intentional thing. Mistakes were/are made and some of them need strong attention to get resolved. If there was intent to deceive, why not just take the money like Full Flush did?

I think it is more of a mismanagement/complacency issue in company structure, look at the customer service in online chat. Personally, I've had issue resolved by both reps here and in some occasions... compensated for problems. That was offered not demanded. I've sent screenshots and other stuff on questionable play/players. Some of them nothing happened and some the players were shutdown.

Only my opinion, but I don't believe there is any intent to defraud, scam, or steal from the player pool. Same problems exist, the solutions are different as far as I can see. The fact that some customer support that is completely clueless keeps their job is a management problem. If something as basic as that is not resolved, then it is not a stretch to see it in other departments, like security. I have to take into account that some of the people that were investigated cleared the review, good or bad. With that said, some accounts that appear to have very strong evidence of botting are still playing. The lack of an official statement has no excuse. The puff ouece on empowering players was a PR disaster.

Why not just have bounties for the person that exposes, with evidentiary proof, illegal play? They spend money only for success, it's how Netscape saved many millions on their security budget.

I think hes talking about Trash370...

ya my bad, shill was the wrong word.
If I can latereg last minute and stall my way into the money, which I have done twice today, then something is still wrong. It's ridiculous actually.

perhaps the problem is the game structure?

What is winning_TD doing all day? Perhaps the same as the security team?

Completely legal and unregulated is the answer. Governments do NOT have the moral right to "regulate" any industry. It happens, but when it does it is always immoral and violates the rights of the business owners.

If they had any integrity then they would immediately quit rather than do this.

In a fully legal system, where people could take WPN and other poker sites to court for fraud and breach of contract/TOS (ex., a site passively allowing bots when it violates TOS) such a player could be included in a lawsuit for willingly aiding and abetting fraud against a player base. Note, none of this requires "regulation".

Was listening to Fox sports radio this morning and they ran an ad from Americascardroom.net. Has this happened before cuz this is the first time I've heard it. Could this be a response to why they aren't advertising on 2+2?

I am not sure of the global standards for class action lawsuits heck I don'teven know what they are in the US.

curious though as I have only viewed some basic articles from google searches

Examples please of dishonest statements.

Ill say you've not been dishonest imo, more like half truths, angling, directing or steering conversations at times. Biased is a better adjective here imo or maybe complicit aiding and abetting kinda thing. I didn't see you blatantly lie but i did see heaps of useful info "left out" imo and same from others disappear. You did do some good things too and helped people but lets not pretend that's all that was going on and it was out of the kindness of your heart like the unpaid 2+2 mods do here (thanks guys).

So you're not biased? Long before this current saga you threatened to fly to Costa Rica to harm Phil Nagy and his family.

I never said I wasn't and if Phil shows up near LA I hope im able to control myself. Don't bring my mental health issues resulting from my brain injury into this. Side note maybe if all this bs wsnt going on for years I wouldn't have had such a severe breakdown and episode you just reminded me of thanks a lot Zack Koerper from Maryland

^^ That's going too far @big bwalz. It looked like two implicit threats against people. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

you are 100% wrong i was saying i never said i wasn't biased and then i elaborated on my incident/mental breakdown that thrash brought up again from 3 years ago, and since he felt it was that was an appropriate thing to involve in the discussion i felt it was important to add his legal name to the discussion and so ya no threat.

and the fact thrash replied how he did to my post and quoted that part, imo shows where he's at now and it seems to me he's tilting a bit. My mental breakdown years ago is kinda irrevelant to my posts now unless its to undermine my credibility which i have none of anyway. I do get stuff tho and have good points occasionally, ive been around for a while.