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03-03-2018 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
Haven't been playing on ACR the past few weeks and logged in, updated, and can't open my cashier. Is anyone else having issues with getting their cashier to appear?
Ya somewhere on the WPN subforum I think there is a fix for that as quite a few people seem to have had troubles with it.


edit: I looked it up and there is no fix on the player's side. If I were you I'd pm WPNrep and let him know what's up

Last edited by Sir Huntington; 03-03-2018 at 01:22 PM.
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03-03-2018 , 11:13 PM
hey guys I'm new to wpn. When you win a seat in a satellite it looks as though it auto registers you. I usually don't like to start a tournament at 10/20 blinds or sometimes the event starts earlier than my session usually starts..are there any tricks?

like can you reg the target tourney with cash right before you win the seat, and get credited with T$ or anything like this? thanks..and what if you win multiple seats to the same event

and as a side note, why isn't there an option to make a new thread in the WPN subforum?
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03-03-2018 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by xmarxthespot22

like can you reg the target tourney with cash right before you win the seat, and get credited with T$ or anything like this? thanks..and what if you win multiple seats to the same event

and as a side note, why isn't there an option to make a new thread in the WPN subforum?
The bolded is exactly what you have to do from what other posters have said. Register with cash and then unregister when you win a seat.

The WPN subforum is closed cuz WPN has been messing up with bots and a late registration tourney loophole and never got back to 2+2 heads when they tried to reach out to them about the issues. WPN has fixed the tourney loophole tho and did something called captcha about the bots so they are doing something after lots of bitching from 2+2.
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03-04-2018 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rjr777
Hey I wasn’t able to respond on the other wpn thread...

I myself have cashed out multiple times so it’s not me questioning whether cashouts do in fact occur... it’s more to do w the lack of “winning players” who cashout regularly defending wpn. It seems like everyone is slowly admitting that they lose on this site. This is just anecdotal evidence. It’s a gut feel that if wpn was so innocent and it was just me playing bad then more people would be coming out as wpn winning apologists. I just don’t see anyone besides people w ties to the company defending them.

At very least if you’ve played a single hand on wpn you would want the losing hands to be recorded and shown to create an environment of transparency. But apparently you and others are ok w the lack of transparency?

You know the type of transparency that could actually turn all of our anecdotes into hardcore facts and proof of a super user, collider, bot or whatever other way of cheating that has been done.

I've won on WPN since I started playing here years ago. I think you're just seeing people finally are fed up with the BS, as I know I've been directly colluded against countless times in the small field MTTs I play, so who knows how much that has cost me.
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03-04-2018 , 12:27 AM
awesome..thanks for the complete response.
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03-04-2018 , 04:48 PM
So is this gonna be the thread to keep discussing WPN hilarities? Or is there another thread somewhere? Anyone got a cashier yet?
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03-04-2018 , 11:23 PM
WOW, I see over $250,000 in overlay today. Surprised the hackers didn't DDoS the site.
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03-05-2018 , 12:52 PM
I've heard about some bots in the site

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03-05-2018 , 01:56 PM
how many still can't access cashier?
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03-05-2018 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jcmanzano83
I've heard about some bots in the site

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And???
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03-05-2018 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
WPN has fixed the tourney loophole tho and did something called captcha about the bots so they are doing something after lots of bitching from 2+2.

FWIW, I spoke to Phil and other team members of WPN about both the captcha and the loophole fix in person approximately 2 days after the now infamous Joey video dropped. It was not 2+2 that motivated those changes, they were already in development.

Also, I wanted to share this image because, well, I needed to learn some things about GIMP and I made it myself as a test case. I know, it's not uber quality, but I'm a newb:




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03-06-2018 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
FWIW, I spoke to Phil and other team members of WPN about both the captcha and the loophole fix in person approximately 2 days after the now infamous Joey video dropped. It was not 2+2 that motivated those changes, they were already in development.

Also, I wanted to share this image because, well, I needed to learn some things about GIMP and I made it myself as a test case. I know, it's not uber quality, but I'm a newb:




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Kahn
Can you explain why they are so incompetent that they couldn't respond to a simple inquiry from 2+2 management in a timely manner and avoid having their sponsored support forum closed?
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03-06-2018 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by teh_minbet_pokr
Can you explain why they are so incompetent that they couldn't respond to a simple inquiry from 2+2 management in a timely manner and avoid having their sponsored support forum courses?
Sure I can explain it. But it would be my own opinion and purely speculation. Thus, it likely would not be of much value to anyone.

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03-06-2018 , 11:17 AM
Ok FYI, i will still be looking at my private messages and willing to help people that need me.

I will clear up slightly the issue with 2+2 but i cant go into full details. Myself and Bobo were in constant contact with each other and it wasnt closed due to not responding it is a little deeper than that. Myself and bobo have a pretty good relationship i would say so there is no hard feelings on both ends.

It is a shame that everything will now be forced onto one thread but it is what it is.

I wanted to add regarding the captcha.. This is something we have had in place for well over a year now and i openly said that in the other threads.

Anyway.. As i said i am still here to help so PM is def the best way if you have some issues.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 03-07-2018 at 05:09 AM. Reason: Removed small amount of non-permitted info.
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03-06-2018 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Ok FYI, i will still be looking at my private messages and willing to help people that need me.

I will clear up slightly the issue with 2+2 but i cant go into full details. Myself and Bobo were in constant contact with each other and it wasnt closed due to not responding it is a little deeper than that. Myself and bobo have a pretty good relationship i would say so there is no hard feelings on both ends.

It is a shame that everything will now be forced onto one thread but it is what it is.

I wanted to add regarding the captcha.. This is something we have had in place for well over a year now and i openly said that in the other threads.

Anyway.. As i said i am still here to help so PM is def the best way if you have some issues.

maybe you should captcha everyone playing during more than one break throughout the day and see who cant respond?
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03-06-2018 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Ok FYI, i will still be looking at my private messages and willing to help people that need me.

I wanted to add regarding the captcha.. This is something we have had in place for well over a year now and i openly said that in the other threads.
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
Captcha is a decent start, but it's far from foolproof. As long as someone is present to solve the captcha then they would still be able to run the bot before and after. It should cut down on some of the volume for now, but it can't be their only solution if they hope to deter all of the bot users.
Not every bot user is so carefree that they go out for the day and leave it running while they're away. If I sit by my computer surfing the web while monitoring the tables, what's to prevent me from using a bot and solving the captcha when it pops up?

I offered 11 suggestions in the Empowering Players at Americas Cardroom thread started by WPN Rep in the now closed forum. Will any of that be implemented?

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 03-06-2018 at 05:02 PM.
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03-06-2018 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Sure I can explain it. But it would be my own opinion and purely speculation. Thus, it likely would not be of much value to anyone.

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Kahn
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts, as I'm sure many others would.
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03-06-2018 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts, as I'm sure many others would.
+1
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03-07-2018 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Ok FYI, i will still be looking at my private messages and willing to help people that need me.

I will clear up slightly the issue with 2+2 but i cant go into full details. Myself and Bobo were in constant contact with each other and it wasnt closed due to not responding it is a little deeper than that.
You're right. It's because 2+2 cares more about the integrity of the game than WPN ever has. The company you represent has been informed of sitewide cheating for YEARS, and you swept it under the rug, deleted comments about Eastern Eurpoean botrings and engaged in about two posts worth of security theater while players are still being cheated out of their money.

I and other users have reported cash game cheaters repeatedly, and the only change we've seen is those players have gone up in stakes.

Hell, I sat a bot headsup thirty minutes ago. I would play a hand, inform the account in the chat box that I would continue sitting out after every hand until I got a response from them, and I got nothing but crickets. But when I sat back in, they would immediately play. I repeated this for 90 hands.

Your CEO knows about as much as running a trustworthy site as he does dressing himself like a professional, and I would encourage everyone to refrain from depositing a cent on a WPN until they offer proof they take cheating seriously.
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03-07-2018 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hAmThEkIlLeR
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Hell, I sat a bot headsup thirty minutes ago. I would play a hand, inform the account in the chat box that I would continue sitting out after every hand until I got a response from them, and I got nothing but crickets. But when I sat back in, they would immediately play. I repeated this for 90 hands..[/B]
Some people have chat turned off, some are on a lot of tables not paying attention, some don't speak English, and some can't be bothered to respond. Not chatting has nothing to do with being a bot.
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03-07-2018 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FreshThyme
Some people have chat turned off, some are on a lot of tables not paying attention, some don't speak English, and some can't be bothered to respond. Not chatting has nothing to do with being a bot.
The account was Australian, only sitting HU tables, and I was the only other person sitting one.

Every bet was the same size, pot.

And when I sat them out for varying amounts of time, they played with the same timing when I randomly jumped back in to play a hand.


Not chatting can be indicative of a bot, and the account is suspect.
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03-07-2018 , 05:07 AM
copy pasted from the ATF subforum figured I should paste the link here too. RE thrash370, he's a good dude imo but i feel a statement would be appreciated by the community after everything, somebody else brought it up not me.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=126
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03-07-2018 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
I will clear up slightly the issue with 2+2 but i cant go into full details. Myself and Bobo were in constant contact with each other and it wasnt closed due to not responding it is a little deeper than that. Myself and bobo have a pretty good relationship i would say so there is no hard feelings on both ends.
I want to clarify a little so no one is left with the impression that this conflicts with what Mason has said in his Publisher's Note (and I'm sure Winning_TD wouldn't want this either). I spoke to Winning_TD to ensure that he knew the email was coming from Mason to Phil, and that Phil received it, and he and I had some subsequent "lower level" conversation. Unfortunately, as Mason mentioned, there was no official response to him from WPN/Phil.

And just so others know, WPN won't be able to post promotions, announcements, etc. This isn't something specific to WPN - it's the same policy for any non-advertising rep. They are welcome to answer non-promotional questions here, and members should contact WPN directly for any promotional questions they might have.
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03-07-2018 , 05:18 AM
Hi Everyone and Winning_TD:

I need to set the record straight here on a couple of things.

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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Ok FYI, i will still be looking at my private messages and willing to help people that need me.

I will clear up slightly the issue with 2+2 but i cant go into full details. Myself and Bobo were in constant contact with each other and it wasnt closed due to not responding it is a little deeper than that. Myself and bobo have a pretty good relationship i would say so there is no hard feelings on both ends.
First, I did not receive a response to my email letter. Second, the forum was closed for the reasons given here:

https://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/issue159/

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It is a shame that everything will now be forced onto one thread but it is what it is and i will still post promos and news that is useful. Anyone that wants rakeback just PM me and i will get it setup within 24 hours of seeing it.
This is only allowed if there is an advertising relationship between 2+2 and the entity that you represent which in this case would be ACR.

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I wanted to add regarding the captcha.. This is something we have had in place for well over a year now and i openly said that in the other threads.

Anyway.. As i said i am still here to help so PM is def the best way if you have some issues.
Again, there is currently no advertising relationship between ACR and 2+2. If, for instance, someone was having trouble cashing out and you could help, that would be great. But our PM system should not be used for promos, rakeback information, or other commercial objectives.

Best wishes,
Mason Malmuth
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03-07-2018 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hAmThEkIlLeR
The account was Australian, only sitting HU tables, and I was the only other person sitting one.

Every bet was the same size, pot.

And when I sat them out for varying amounts of time, they played with the same timing when I randomly jumped back in to play a hand.


Not chatting can be indicative of a bot, and the account is suspect.
Lol, wat was the account name? and what stake?

Never heard of australian accounts on HU WPN tables being bots...i have played with most of them also
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