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12-12-2012 , 10:06 PM
Rakeback late again for everyone?
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12-12-2012 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob999
Rakeback late again for everyone?
Just got my rakeback 6pm Pacific time...

Anyone explain to me what "waller balance" is in the Cashier page?

Dog
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12-13-2012 , 12:22 AM
Voucher service down? Cant make a deposit. I've made several before. "payments offline" is what is showing.
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12-13-2012 , 12:36 AM
Yep. It is down. Not a good sign.
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12-13-2012 , 01:30 AM
Ugh, the tables are especially bad tonight. CAP, Short, BBJ, Beast rake...FFS I just want to play at regular tables for once.
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12-13-2012 , 02:06 AM
Why does the network not show the hand of the losing player involved in a pot?!

In a showdown situation, the losing hand is mucked and sometimes it is not even the player that is supposed to show first and there is no way to check that players hand?

Anyone else ever wondered about this?
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12-13-2012 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishie214
Why does the network not show the hand of the losing player involved in a pot?!

In a showdown situation, the losing hand is mucked and sometimes it is not even the player that is supposed to show first and there is no way to check that players hand?

Anyone else ever wondered about this?
This has been answered dozens of times in this forum already.

ACR uses the common casino rules for this. If you bet the river and get called, and you win, you CAN'T see the opponent's cards. If your opponent bets the river and YOU call, and you win, you CAN see the opponent's cards.

In essence it's the "pay to see" rule. If you get called, you have to show. If you call, you don't.

If nobody bets the river, it goes left of the dealer. The first person to the left of the button shows, and then any better hands show their cards in order to the left around the table. If no one beats the first guy to show his hand, everyone else can muck without showing.
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12-13-2012 , 09:50 AM
For the 300 cash bonus for this month that cost 25k points. Is that 25k points already at the 20 percent discount or does it only cost 20k points to buy the bonus this month... Apears Live support is clueless
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12-13-2012 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by three_dee
This has been answered dozens of times in this forum already.

ACR uses the common casino rules for this. If you bet the river and get called, and you win, you CAN'T see the opponent's cards. If your opponent bets the river and YOU call, and you win, you CAN see the opponent's cards.

In essence it's the "pay to see" rule. If you get called, you have to show. If you call, you don't.

If nobody bets the river, it goes left of the dealer. The first person to the left of the button shows, and then any better hands show their cards in order to the left around the table. If no one beats the first guy to show his hand, everyone else can muck without showing.
ACR uses common casino rules?! Anytime you put money in after river you may ask to see your opponents cards, So clearly they are not using common casino rules..

But anyways I was just curious b/c the rules seems unlogical and is the only place I have ever seen it used before.
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12-13-2012 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by uofmchris
Yep. It is down. Not a good sign.
Looks like still down...
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12-13-2012 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishie214
ACR uses common casino rules?! Anytime you put money in after river you may ask to see your opponents cards, So clearly they are not using common casino rules..

But anyways I was just curious b/c the rules seems unlogical and is the only place I have ever seen it used before.
Live Casino/Card Rooms consider this a privilege. If a player abuses it, they tend to no longer allow the player access to mucked cards. For whatever reason, it's been more common in online poker rooms that they show all mucked cards in hands histories, yet this has not always been the case.

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12-13-2012 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Grinder887
Looks like still down...
Talked to a ARC live rep last night... They said the vendor is 'upgrading' their software....

If you go to the site you will see a message stating that they are currently not accepting new registrations....

I dont know what to think of this... But yeah... the voucher option has been down for a few days now. Hmmmmmmmm.
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12-13-2012 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Live Casino/Card Rooms consider this a privilege.

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Kahn
This is the one part I disagree with, They now consider it a rule more so than a privilege hence why it is the same in just about every casino around the world..

Anyways nothing to really discuss, Just odd how they do things
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12-13-2012 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishie214
ACR uses common casino rules?! Anytime you put money in after river you may ask to see your opponents cards,
This is incorrect. If you make a bet, and a player calls you, and you show down and WIN, you cannot ask to see your opponent's cards. (Well you can ASK, but there is no rule that forces them to show you.)

If YOU call a bet, and show down and win, the aggressor HAS to show you.

This is a poker rule as old as time back to Old West saloon days.

The reason you are probably confused is because most online poker sites use a different standard where you can see ALL mucked cards at showdown regardless of betting order or seating order. Which is fine if that's what they wanna do, but ACR doesn't.
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12-13-2012 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by three_dee
This is incorrect. If you make a bet, and a player calls you, and you show down and WIN, you cannot ask to see your opponent's cards. (Well you can ASK, but there is no rule that forces them to show you.)

If YOU call a bet, and show down and win, the aggressor HAS to show you.

This is a poker rule as old as time back to Old West saloon days.

The reason you are probably confused is because most online poker sites use a different standard where you can see ALL mucked cards at showdown regardless of betting order or seating order. Which is fine if that's what they wanna do, but ACR doesn't.
I don't really care to argue, But I have played in probably 300+ casino's worldwide and they all have the same rule in regards to showdowns. At any point past the river once betting had ended you can ask to see the whole cards of your opponent at showdown.

Not really anything more to discuss, I understand the perspective from both sides, Just stating what is actually true and common practice
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12-13-2012 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishie214
I don't really care to argue, But I have played in probably 300+ casino's worldwide and they all have the same rule in regards to showdowns. At any point past the river once betting had ended you can ask to see the whole cards of your opponent at showdown.

Not really anything more to discuss, I understand the perspective from both sides, Just stating what is actually true and common practice
After over 45 years of playing live, this is true. While it may not be "courteous" to ask, often because of cheating this was done.

On a RARE occasion, when I thought there was collusion, I would ask the dealer politely, "I want to see ALL called hands at showdown." And, was extended that request. Usually, just making the request got "partners" to quickly abandon the hand, and often leave the table.

Dog
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12-13-2012 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishie214
I don't really care to argue, But I have played in probably 300+ casino's worldwide and they all have the same rule in regards to showdowns. At any point past the river once betting had ended you can ask to see the whole cards of your opponent at showdown.

Not really anything more to discuss, I understand the perspective from both sides, Just stating what is actually true and common practice
True, but abuse of this rule has caused some poker rooms to be a little less accommodating with the IWTSTH (I want to see the hand) rule. It exists to help prevent collusion, but players who seem to think that it is their right to use the rule whenever they like purely for information purposes have caused some poker rooms to start saying no to the request when it is clearly being abused. If the subject is of any interest to you, you'll find numerous threads about it in the B&M forum.

Anyway, yeah, it is pretty uncommon for online poker rooms to handle it this way, but I'm pretty sure Winning isn't the first network to do this. I would assume the idea is that it "protects the fish" from the moronic tap tankers who feel the need to look up players' hole cards and berate them for their terrible play.
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12-13-2012 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I would assume the idea is that it "protects the fish" from the moronic tap tankers who feel the need to look up players' hole cards and berate them for their terrible play.
I totally agree. The "golden rule" in live poker games, historically, is leave the bad players alone. In fact, congratulate them on a brilliant call. (when they got runner runner to an inside straight)

You want them to do it every time.

Not showing hole cards also prevents the collecting of hand histories, which many sites are trying to overcome.

Dog
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12-13-2012 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Annunaki
I just hope that all these events in the OSS aren't reenter or R/A. Your team needs to do a better job on denoting the tourney structures and setups please.
The Re-Entry feature is available in must of the OSS II Events. Our PLO events and saturdays events allow players to rebuy during late registration. We do not offer freezeout tournaments.
The details of every online Poker tournament including duration of levels and blind structures will be displayed prominently in the Tournament lobby.
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If I were to use a pre-paid credit card (available for purchase at many gas stations, etc) to deposit I would not be eligible to receive the "first deposit bonus", correct?
From http://www.americascardroom.eu/portf...deposit-bonus/
Vanilla cards seem to be no longer working with outside U.S transactions so they'll probably be rejected, I would definitely suggest to try another prepaid card (we don’t GTD it will work but you can give it a try) and just make sure to verify it will allow outside the U.S. transfers.
The first time bonus will apply regardless and will be based on your first deposit amount.
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Are y'all going to update the software before you run the OSS series?
We hope to have the update before but cannot give you an exact timeframe, I’ll update the thread when I have more info.
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For the 300 cash bonus for this month that cost 25k points. Is that 25k points already at the 20 percent discount or does it only cost 20k points to buy the bonus this month... Apears Live support is clueless
For Cash bonuses, it’s already discounted with the 20%.
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12-13-2012 , 09:40 PM
When will the cash bonuses be processed? Bought one over a week ago, and it is still 'pending' in the store
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12-13-2012 , 11:11 PM
anyone else froze??

right in the middle of a hand in the $10k... what the fkkkkkkkkkkkkkk?
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12-13-2012 , 11:12 PM
is ACR down for anyone else?
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12-13-2012 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by n1232
is ACR down for anyone else?
down here too.....nice way to cost everyone some money
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12-13-2012 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by n1232
is ACR down for anyone else?
same here
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12-13-2012 , 11:13 PM
Frozen, can't reopen
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