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08-16-2020 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kingo
How do you find yourself on the beast leaderboard. the control f thing does not work. I type my name and nothing happens.
How that the increased the # of players to qualify, how much weekly rake do you think one would need for $50 award?
After 'crtl+f', there is a small search bar that will appear just under the address line in the browser. Type your player name in there and it will take you to it.
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08-16-2020 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
Which accounts do you suspect are bots?
Probably the ones that play exactly like 50 other accounts. It's a shame that this is standard in online poker these days.
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08-16-2020 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
I just don't see why traffic would be drastically different if you have MORE players able to get a decent weekly bonus. Even a $125 a week is nice for something you want to do anyway. I don't play that much and never got beyond $50, now that I can have a better shot at a higher tier I'm not going to play less....
The key is that more players would be able to get a small weekly bonus RIGHT NOW. But take a look at the SNG lobby now, on a day where the volume has typically been great (including yesterday), it’s a ghost town right now. And what happens if volume continues to be this low? Less total spots will be paid, and when less spots will be paid, we will end up seeing less spots at both the top and the bottom. It also means that WPN makes less money since they won’t be making as much rake.

The change won’t happen immediately because part of the money from the rake races and taken to reseed for the following week, but it will be a steady decline. So the amount of time it takes for you to get that 50, 125, 250, 500 spot will probably increase, as you will need to wait longer for games on average. If you play spins, it probably affects you slightly less. But for others that don’t play that format, as well as wait that long for a game to pop off, they won’t stick around.

Take a look at the current total payout of the SNC. It’ll probably hit 27k by the end of the day. Last week’s total payout was 61K, which means that 15k of that 27k was seeded (since 25% of the SNC goes into the following week). So if we are being optimistic and the leaderboard keeps growing in a linear fashion, then that means it will grow at 6k per day. So that means in the best case scenario, the leaderboard will end the week at 57k. However, we know that volume slows down heavily towards the end of the week, and once regs finish getting their 500, it’ll be harder for any of the games to run. And because the incentives are less, we could soon see the departure of some regs, which means getting less and less volume slowly, and less total payouts for everyone. You might not play less, but the lack of resulting volume is definitely a deterrent for others. It’s all a domino effect.

Sorry about the long winded answer, but I felt like I needed to be thorough to explain this all.
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08-16-2020 , 10:13 PM
all those thing may be true, but the changes are better for longevity of the ecosystem. So maybe the traffic won't be as good, but overall it's a step in right direction.
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08-17-2020 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by aprFool
acually on PS the rake is smaller nl50 and below AFIAK.

wpn 5% 3$ cap

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but after RB perhaps you pay less on wpn. i do not know cos i do not play acr yet.
This is outdated info. The sure way to get a REAL rake rate estimate is to play 100k hands in pokerstars and play 100k hands in WPN as I have. You'll realize pokerstars falls in the 8-8.5 bb/100 range and WPN between 5.5-6.5.
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08-17-2020 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Picky Mosquito
I had a few bucks left on and wanted to test software before I redeposit....I am literally being disconnected after EVERY hand! It's saying something about my request has been interrupted (751)?
Most likely because you have auto top up still enabled and don’t have the funds to rebuy full. That’s the error message you get when that is the case so I’d start there.
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08-17-2020 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
After 'crtl+f', there is a small search bar that will appear just under the address line in the browser. Type your player name in there and it will take you to it.
I appreciate the response. I tried the crtl f and the search bar pops up but nothing happens when I type my name. The site opens edge as my browser. I tried pasting address into chrome. Search bar pops up but same exact thing, I type my name and nothing happens.
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08-17-2020 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ak97b
This is outdated info. The sure way to get a REAL rake rate estimate is to play 100k hands in pokerstars and play 100k hands in WPN as I have. You'll realize pokerstars falls in the 8-8.5 bb/100 range and WPN between 5.5-6.5.
if it is outdated info they r really screwing over the players. it is shown here:
https://www.pokerstars.eu/poker/room/rake/

if you are right ppl should raise their voice/sue them!
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08-17-2020 , 05:04 AM
i've checked some nl16 and nl25 pots played (early this year) on PS right now. and according to those the rake infos i had linked are correct!!!!

despite of this i believe you that you could payed less rake. but it must be thanks to your changed playing style. otherwise there is no way.
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08-17-2020 , 06:49 AM
For pokertracker 4 users, anyone know if you have to do enable some setting or anything for the HUD to work on blitz tables or is it supposed to be just automatic? Normal tables are perfectly fine but nothing happens for me in blitz.

For the beast changes, sure would have been nice to know those changes were happening before I ran 2000 big blinds under EV in a single day trying to get hands in. I would not have kept playing in suboptimal condition. Looks like not only that $1250 doesn't exist but $500 will be a lot harder. I don't know whether or not the changes are objectively good or bad overall for the site but I'm pretty sure they suck for me. The games are not as good as bovada but it's nice to feel like you're actually playing poker instead of just bumhunting the big fish while fighting against the terrible software and huge rake. But now there's less reason to play here.
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08-17-2020 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
all those thing may be true, but the changes are better for longevity of the ecosystem. So maybe the traffic won't be as good, but overall it's a step in right direction.
traffic is significantly hurt. I'm actually surprised, I didnt expect this many regs to stop playing.

Surprisingly blitz50 pool was hit the most. I assume thats because 500$ is significant for that limit and nl50 regs that used to grind to achieve it realize that its prohibitively hard now

Games are either the same or better, but it's still not great to rely on a pool that peaked at 70 entries on sunday night. I imagine a lot less is raked as well.

Thing is, even blitz200 pool was largely bunch of degen regs, such as myself, battling it out long after majority of recreational players quit. Tbh I did not expect them to give up, but it appears that they did. Which will lead to smaller total pool etc etc.

I dont have access to WPN forums, are they talking about changing it back?

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carbon, the changes to the beast well announced well before the week started.
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08-17-2020 , 09:22 AM
Anyone else lose connection to the server every hand on cash tables? I keep reconnecting after every hand.
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08-17-2020 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sil3ntness
Anyone else lose connection to the server every hand on cash tables? I keep reconnecting after every hand.
same issue with jackpots, had to end the session it was unbearable
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08-17-2020 , 09:41 AM
It's really annoying cause I can't even track hands because PT4 will not sync hands if the stupid server keeps resetting.
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08-17-2020 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kingo
I appreciate the response. I tried the crtl f and the search bar pops up but nothing happens when I type my name. The site opens edge as my browser. I tried pasting address into chrome. Search bar pops up but same exact thing, I type my name and nothing happens.
You might not be on the list then.
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08-17-2020 , 10:14 AM
has anybody been able to use PT4 to track tournament results properly? For me it tracks results but all buy ins show up as $0.00
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08-17-2020 , 10:22 AM
I can't even play on cash tables now. I disconnect every hand and immediately sit out.
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08-17-2020 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
has anybody been able to use PT4 to track tournament results properly? For me it tracks results but all buy ins show up as $0.00
you have to manually input the info... pain in the ass!

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08-17-2020 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
You might not be on the list then.
the way the list is coded, if you are deep down the list the search function will find it but not bring you there, he can copy the table and open in excel to find his name as I've mentioned earlier
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08-17-2020 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WSPreadHead
you have to manually input the info... pain in the ass!

Sent from my SM-A115U using Tapatalk
Yea...that's not happening, but thanks for letting me know.
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08-17-2020 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sil3ntness
Anyone else lose connection to the server every hand on cash tables? I keep reconnecting after every hand.
same here, i lost a ton off premium hands and money.
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08-17-2020 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
From what I could tell most of the guys in $1250 tier played a lot of Jackpot SnGs, and those run a lot since you only need 3 players to start. Overall I think it's a positive change since it will distribute $50 each week to rec players and keep them motivated/in game. But this is just my opinion, if you don't agree that's OK.
No $50 to a rec is gonna motivate a rec to keep playing. If you’re not playing for a living then you’re more than likely losing/ playing for fun and you’re playing no matter what. 50 shitty dollars ain’t gonna do jack for an eco system.

Same for the 125 section, highly doubt any 125 player would be in any different a situation whether he made that 125 a week or not.

If yall cant see that this is all about destroying the reg, or at least thinning that divide between decent money made and next to no money, then you’re probably someone who also thinks corona is real. And for that mentality you have my deepest sympathy. Scumbag site just like Stars, boycott the lot of em I say.
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08-17-2020 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Pig
No $50 to a rec is gonna motivate a rec to keep playing. If you’re not playing for a living then you’re more than likely losing/ playing for fun and you’re playing no matter what. 50 shitty dollars ain’t gonna do jack for an eco system.



Same for the 125 section, highly doubt any 125 player would be in any different a situation whether he made that 125 a week or not.



If yall cant see that this is all about destroying the reg, or at least thinning that divide between decent money made and next to no money, then you’re probably someone who also thinks corona is real. And for that mentality you have my deepest sympathy. Scumbag site just like Stars, boycott the lot of em I say.
Feel entitled much? I play on different sites for different reasons so I am no WPN fanboy or anything. But they do have VIP/27% RB which is much more than most offerings. The races are also just extra funds given out each week to keep traffic at a decent level. Good luck with your boycott tho.
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08-17-2020 , 03:19 PM
Cheers and keep ya muzzle on
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08-17-2020 , 04:16 PM
Anyone know how to fix the constant disconnecting every hand? I can't even play a single cash game table. I've tried multiple tables. Restarted PC... nothing works.

Don't really have time for 4 hour tournaments.

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Edit: I'll try GLUIPERIG's solution.

Last edited by Sil3ntness; 08-17-2020 at 04:40 PM.
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